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bullypulpit
12-19-2009, 05:38 AM
On Thursday night, Senate Republicans attempted to block a vote on a $100 billion defense spending bill to continue funding operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, MRAPS, healthcare for troops and a 3.46% raise for service members.

Why did they do this? What conceivable reason could they have for trying to block this vote? For no better reason than playing politics. In a bid to forestall a vote on the watered down piece of shit that the Senate Democrats call "health care reform" Senate Republicans played politics with the lives and welfare of our troops. Why do they hate the troops?

<center><a href=http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/111/senate/1/381>GOP Senators vote against Troop funding</a></center>

red states rule
12-19-2009, 07:01 AM
DP's drive by poster strikes again

BP, the reason Republicans votred against this bill is vecause of all the pork the Dems put in it

Of course you will iognore this point. You wil try to dent it. Then you run away from your own thread

If any party hate the tropps it is the Dems. Remember your beloved Dems calling the troops uneducated, terrorists, cold blooded killers. and comparing them to Pol pot and Nazi's?





WASHINGTON - (Business Wire) Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) today released its preliminary analysis of the Fiscal Year (FY) 2010 Department of Defense Appropriations Act. There are 1,719 projects worth $7.6 billion in the bill. FY 2010 marks the first time that defense earmarks are below $9 billion since FY 2002, when the total was $8.8 billion. Despite this decrease, the bill was still rife with waste, including:

•$3,385,000,000 added anonymously for four projects. This figure equates to 44.7 percent of the dollar amount included for earmarks in the bill. According to the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act of 2007, signed into law on September 14, 2007 by President George W. Bush, members of Congress are required to add their name to each earmark. However, they continue to violate this law by adding anonymous earmarks to fund projects – often big-ticket items – at the expense of taxpayers.

•$2,500,000,000 added anonymously for ten additional C-17 aircraft. In a floor statement posted on his website, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) voiced his opposition to the C-17 funding: “[w]hat we would do in this bill is effectively fund the purchase of new aircraft that we neither need nor can afford with critical sustainment money. That would have a significant impact on our ability to provide the day-to-day operational funding that our servicemen and women and their families deserve.”

•$465,000,000 added anonymously for the F136 alternate engine program. According to a November 10, 2009 Reuters article, deliveries of the F136 alternate engine will be delayed by one year. Built by General Electric and Rolls-Royce, the alternate engine program has had two major setbacks in as many months. In October, F136 testing was halted when a nut came loose, damaging turbine blades in the engine. Top military officials, former President Bush, President Obama, the Office of Management and Budget, and independent analysts all agree that the alternate engine should be eliminated. The project is expensive, unnecessary, and only survives because of pork-barrel politics.

•$250,000,000 added anonymously for advance procurement of components for the two DDG-51 destroyers planned in fiscal year 2011. According to a September 29, 2009 Associated Press article, the DDG-51 destroyer is “to be built in Pascagoula, Miss., home to Republican Sen. Thad Cochran….” Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), Sens. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), John Kerry (D-Mass.), and Paul Kirk (D-Mass.), and Rep. Travis Childers (D-Miss.) added $8,100,000 for a hybrid drive system for the DDG-51 destroyer.

Citizens Against Government Waste is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization dedicated to eliminating waste, fraud, mismanagement and abuse in government.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/pork-alert-defense-conference-report-loaded-with-earmarks,1096326.shtml

stephanie
12-19-2009, 08:00 AM
Bully I always took you for an independent thinker..looks like the left got their new talking points memo from the Dnc and Pmsnbc..

I found this earlier..I didn't see it since I won't watch Pmsnbc but they captured it at their site.


Picture and video at site.
The Latest from the Haters at MSNBC

This is what they wrote at the bottom of the screen for the entire segment

Republicans try to slow down Health Care with a vote, MSNBC starts foaming at the mouth, this was at the bottom of the screen, "Why Republicans hate the Troops"....This coming from the biggest hater you could ever have in a fill-in host...

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/

red states rule
12-19-2009, 08:09 AM
Bully I always took you for an independent thinker..looks like the left got their new talking points memo from the Dnc and Pmsnbc..

I found this earlier..I didn't see it since I won't watch Pmsnbc but they captured it at their site.


Picture and video at site.
The Latest from the Haters at MSNBC

This is what they wrote at the bottom of the screen for the entire segment

Republicans try to slow down Health Care with a vote, MSNBC starts foaming at the mouth, this was at the bottom of the screen, "Why Republicans hate the Troops"....This coming from the biggest hater you could ever have in a fill-in host...

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/

BP is a desperate man these days. He is watching Obama fall flat on his ass. Reid and Pelosi stumbling around, and failing to keep Democrats in line

He is watching the economy continue to tank, and millions losing their jobs. He has to try and defend pork and trillions of new debt

So all he can do is do what liberals do best

Attack, attack, attack

Jeff
12-19-2009, 08:18 AM
HMMM I think your Dems and Libs said Obama had to take his time , 3 to 4 months time if I recall before he announced doing anything about our troops, as we lost troops daily cause they were spread so thin, So the Republicans want to stall as you call it , maybe they knowing Obama's track record ( of screwing up everything he does) might want to see what his plans are before jumping on the sinking ship with the Dems

red states rule
12-19-2009, 08:22 AM
HMMM I think your Dems and Libs said Obama had to take his time , 3 to 4 months time if I recall before he announced doing anything about our troops, as we lost troops daily cause they were spread so thin, So the Republicans want to stall as you call it , maybe they knowing Obama's track record ( of screwing up everything he does) might want to see what his plans are before jumping on the sinking ship with the Dems

Not to mention all the waste and pork Dems are adding to the bills

Remember, in the beginning of the week Dems passed a $1.1 TRILLION spending bill which was loaded with pork

Now they pass this defense bill loaded with pork - and BP tries to change the subject and ignore the Dems insane deficit spending

PostmodernProphet
12-19-2009, 08:23 AM
Bully I always took you for an independent thinker

?????.....why?........

red states rule
12-19-2009, 08:38 AM
Who hates the troops - and shows it openly?

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KarlMarx
12-19-2009, 08:54 AM
The Democrats are a fine example of being careful of what you wish for because you might just get it.

I believe that these clowns will be voted out of office during the next election. Hopefully, the next batch of Republicans will be conservative and help bring prosperity back to this country.

Unfortunately, people have short memories and, within a few years, will be bleating the latest DNC mantra and we'll be back to this situation again.

I'm glad I'm as old as I am and wish I was older. I truly feel sorry for the young people in this country... by the time 2012 comes around it may be too late to undo all the damage.

avatar4321
12-19-2009, 12:08 PM
More appropriately, Why are Democrats supporting such a bill after spending 8 years of opposing this very thing? Does it really help the troops, or are they just saying it does?

Considering the Democrat track record on this, i find it unlikely that the troops are benefited.

bullypulpit
12-19-2009, 08:33 PM
DP's drive by poster strikes again

BP, the reason Republicans votred against this bill is vecause of all the pork the Dems put in it

Of course you will iognore this point. You wil try to dent it. Then you run away from your own thread

If any party hate the tropps it is the Dems. Remember your beloved Dems calling the troops uneducated, terrorists, cold blooded killers. and comparing them to Pol pot and Nazi's?

Forget your Aricept this morning Red? Or is that just selective memory at work? Remember the GOP howls of outrage...? Charges of treason and anti-Americanism...? Asking"Why do you hate the troops?" of any Democrat who merely questioned Bush administration funding requests for the war in Iraq...? Never mind the reasons for their objections.

Of course, that was the whole point of this little exercise...to highlight the hypocrisy of you and your fellow travelers. It worked..like stealing candy from a baby. Heh.

Oh, and Tom Coburn (R-OK) stated in an interview on Friday that the goal of the parliamentary shenanigans with the defense authorization bill was for no better reason than to kill health care reform.

You lose...Again.

red states rule
12-19-2009, 08:38 PM
Forget your Aricept this morning Red? Or is that just selective memory at work? Remember the GOP howls of outrage...? Charges of treason and anti-Americanism...? Asking"Why do you hate the troops?" of any Democrat who merely questioned Bush administration funding requests for the war in Iraq...? Never mind the reasons for their objections.

Of course, that was the whole point of this little exercise...to highlight the hypocrisy of you and your fellow travelers. It worked..like stealing candy from a baby. Heh.

Oh, and Tom Coburn (R-OK) stated in an interview on Friday that the goal of the parliamentary shenanigans with the defense authorization bill was for no better reason than to kill health care reform.

You lose...Again.

Not at all BP. Dems were openly smearing, and insulting the troops. For years Dmes were bellowing how more troops were needed in Iraq - they kept saying that up t the very minute Pres Bush finally concered and said we needed a surge

Dems were also cheering on the liberal media as they published classified documents telling the terrorists how the US was tracking them

Yes BP, you are showing your selective outrage and selective memory

No comment on the pork. No comment on Dems past words and actions regarding the troops and their contempt

I suspect you will do what you do best

Attack and run away

stephanie
12-19-2009, 08:45 PM
Oh fer crying out loud, now the Bully is carrying out secret exercises on us, how cute..

nothing out of Bully about how the SLIMY Democrats used our troops by inserting there pay and stuff in the health care bill so the Republicans would vote no on it...oh no..

the smell of desperation is a stinker and this administration is one of the WORSTS smells EVER.

and Bully you should be ashamed for saying nothing about your party using our troops this way..shame shame shame on you..

red states rule
12-19-2009, 08:50 PM
Oh fer crying out loud, now the Bully is carrying out secret exercises on us, how cute..

nothing out of Bully about how the SLIMY Democrats used our troops by inserting there pay and stuff in the health care bill so the Republicans would vote no on it...oh no..

the smell of desperation is a stinker and this administration is one of the WORSTS smells EVER.

and Bully you should be ashamed for saying nothing about your party using our troops this way..shame shame shame on you..


Libs showing their "support" of the troops

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3296589655_2ebee409c5_m.jpg

bullypulpit
12-20-2009, 05:56 AM
Not at all BP. Dems were openly smearing, and insulting the troops. For years Dmes were bellowing how more troops were needed in Iraq - they kept saying that up t the very minute Pres Bush finally concered and said we needed a surge

Uhhh..no. Red, they didn't


Dems were also cheering on the liberal media as they published classified documents telling the terrorists how the US was tracking them

Never mind that the BUsh administration undermined and violated the Constitution and the rule of law at nearly every turn while dong so.


Yes BP, you are showing your selective outrage and selective memory

No comment on the pork. No comment on Dems past words and actions regarding the troops and their contempt

I suspect you will do what you do best

Attack and run away

Gosh Red, the earmarks were added anonymously and in violation of the law. Could be Dems or Repugs. Either way, shame on them. Such anonymous earmarks should be stripped from any and all legislation they appear in.

Any comment of Tom Coburn's remarks? Didn't think so.

Missileman
12-20-2009, 10:50 AM
Uhhh..no. Red, they didn't



Never mind that the BUsh administration undermined and violated the Constitution and the rule of law at nearly every turn while dong so.



Gosh Red, the earmarks were added anonymously and in violation of the law. Could be Dems or Repugs. Either way, shame on them. Such anonymous earmarks should be stripped from any and all legislation they appear in.

Any comment of Tom Coburn's remarks? Didn't think so.

The Republicans' actions were not an immediate threat to the welfare of our troops, unlike the 90 days of delay by Obama in giving Gen. McChrystal the troops he needed to do the job.

red states rule
12-20-2009, 10:53 AM
Uhhh..no. Red, they didn't



Never mind that the BUsh administration undermined and violated the Constitution and the rule of law at nearly every turn while dong so.



Gosh Red, the earmarks were added anonymously and in violation of the law. Could be Dems or Repugs. Either way, shame on them. Such anonymous earmarks should be stripped from any and all legislation they appear in.

Any comment of Tom Coburn's remarks? Didn't think so.

So when Dems call the troops uneducated, cold blooded killers, and comparing them to Pol Pot and Nazi's they are complementing the troops BP?

As usual BP, when boxed into a corner with Dems record deficit spending you fall back on Pres Bush. This may come as a newsflash to you BP, but Bush is no longer President

As far as Tom Coburn - if they can expose the light of truth on what is in the bill - as with Obamacare - good for them. Only libs like you would support the rapid passing of a bill when we the people have no idea what is in it

The last thing you would want is for the voters to know about the tax increases, the mandates, and the real actual cost that will increase the deficit

Now are you in the mood for a discussion or will you continue your hit and run debate style?

BoogyMan
12-20-2009, 02:18 PM
Forget your Aricept this morning Red? Or is that just selective memory at work? Remember the GOP howls of outrage...? Charges of treason and anti-Americanism...? Asking"Why do you hate the troops?" of any Democrat who merely questioned Bush administration funding requests for the war in Iraq...? Never mind the reasons for their objections.

Of course, that was the whole point of this little exercise...to highlight the hypocrisy of you and your fellow travelers. It worked..like stealing candy from a baby. Heh.

Oh, and Tom Coburn (R-OK) stated in an interview on Friday that the goal of the parliamentary shenanigans with the defense authorization bill was for no better reason than to kill health care reform.

You lose...Again.

BP, your lucidity challenged commentary never fails to deliver a blow to your own credibility! :lol:

The difference you are intentionally overlooking in the lack of support for the funding requests is pretty evident. The left wing nuts wanted to cut funding needed by the troops to continue their assignment, the refusal to fund this latest request by conservatives was due to the additional PORK in the bill.

red states rule
12-24-2009, 06:01 AM
So when Dems call the troops uneducated, cold blooded killers, and comparing them to Pol Pot and Nazi's they are complementing the troops BP?

As usual BP, when boxed into a corner with Dems record deficit spending you fall back on Pres Bush. This may come as a newsflash to you BP, but Bush is no longer President

As far as Tom Coburn - if they can expose the light of truth on what is in the bill - as with Obamacare - good for them. Only libs like you would support the rapid passing of a bill when we the people have no idea what is in it

The last thing you would want is for the voters to know about the tax increases, the mandates, and the real actual cost that will increase the deficit

Now are you in the mood for a discussion or will you continue your hit and run debate style?

Gee, it looks like BP got "bored" again and left his own thread

stephanie
12-24-2009, 08:47 AM
Gee, it looks like BP got "bored" again and left his own thread

he's probably taking comfort with his like at the Puffertonpost or dailykos..there over there trying to find a way to blame everybody else for the downfall of their Messiah and his comrade in arms..:laugh2:

SassyLady
12-27-2009, 03:24 AM
Uhhh..no. Red, they didn't

Uhhhh.....yes, BP they did.



Never mind that the BUsh administration undermined and violated the Constitution and the rule of law at nearly every turn while dong so.

The Bush Administration?????? Are you saying that Congress has no authority to stop the President from violating the Constitution and the rule of law? If so, then let's get rid of those useless pieces of flotsam! Jesus, you lefties tell us in one breath how stupid Bush was, and in the next you give him credit for bypassing all our governmental safeguards. Make up your mind....either he is stupid and ignorant or he is a freakin' genius!!:slap:


Gosh Red, the earmarks were added anonymously and in violation of the law. Could be Dems or Repugs. Either way, shame on them. Such anonymous earmarks should be stripped from any and all legislation they appear in.

Now who's being just down right silly?!? Why would the Repubs put in an earmark and then vote against it? This just doesn't make sense.:slap:



Any comment of Tom Coburn's remarks? Didn't think so.

What is there to comment on? He stated his opinion, he was wrong. End of story.

:cheers2: