Hillary's status as front-runner slipping in key states

[Pale Rider]

Hillary's status as front-runner slipping in key states



By Donald Lambro
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
January 11, 2007


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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's popularity in Democratic presidential-preference polls has fallen in the nation's first caucus and primary states in the face of increasing support for her chief rivals for the 2008 nomination.
Pollsters said her weaknesses in Iowa and New Hampshire were the result of the growing popularity of two major opponents -- former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama -- and their populist economic messages, as well as a deepening antipathy toward her among Democratic-leaning independents who dislike her support for the war in Iraq and who question her electability.
"I think Hillary strikes these voters the same way Senator John Kerry did in 2004. They would really like to vote for someone they really like this time. Hillary doesn't fit that characterization right now," said pollster Del Ali of Research 2000, who conducted polls in both Iowa and New Hampshire.
His findings mirror more recent polling showing a similar national decline in support. "There's been erosion," said pollster John Zogby. "She's polling in the low- to mid-40s nationally."
The New York Democrat, who has been her party's clear front-runner, came in a distant fourth in an Iowa presidential poll of 600 likely voters conducted Dec. 18 to 20, drawing 10 percent in a crowded field of contenders. Mr. Edwards, the Democrats' 2004 vice-presidential nominee, and Mr. Obama were tied in first place with 22 percent each, followed by outgoing Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack with 12 percent.
In New Hampshire, whose first-in-the-nation primary follows the Iowa caucuses, polls showed Mrs. Clinton in a dead heat with Mr. Obama, who was greeted like a rock star in a whirlwind of standing-room-only appearances across the state last month and has since seen his political support skyrocket nationally.
Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama drew 22 percent and 21 percent respectively late last month, while Mr. Edwards took third place with 16 percent. One month before, Mr. Obama was trailing Mrs. Clinton by 23 points.
Mr. Ali, who interviewed 600 likely voters in New Hampshire, said its electorate was made up of "a lot of independents. These are the same people who loathe [President] Bush, loathe the Iraq war. But deep down, they don't like Hillary Clinton," he told the Concord Monitor.
In a telephone interview with The Washington Times, he said, "Her chief rivals are very much against the Iraq war and prefer that we begin withdrawal. I don't think they trust her, to be honest with you.
"Part of the reason is that among the candidates, she seems the most supportive of the war in Iraq and appears less critical of President Bush than the other candidates," he said.
Mrs. Clinton, who is reportedly planning to announce her 2008 candidacy sometime this month, has yet to campaign in New Hampshire. Democrats in the state say they expect her approval numbers to improve once she begins active campaigning.
"You cannot underestimate Senator Clinton. She has a unique attribute no one else has. She is extremely well-known, has a very good war chest, the ability to raise a lot of money and has a great spouse, Bill Clinton, who will be supporting her," said Jim Demers, a veteran party strategist in the state.
However, Mr. Demers, who intends to support Mr. Obama if he decides to run, said most of the party's activists were "uncommitted and waiting for Senator Clinton to come in before they start making up their minds."

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070110-112457-7197r.htm

[glockmail]

You know she has a bomb to drop on Obama when the primaries get a little closer....

[Pale Rider]

You know she has a bomb to drop on Obama when the primaries get a little closer....

Like what? She's half black too? :laugh2:

[glockmail]

Like what? She's half black too? :laugh2:
No, but maybe a story that she's been some long-term black guy's pleasure ho would steal that portion of the Democrat vote. :laugh2:

[manu1959]

You know she has a bomb to drop on Obama when the primaries get a little closer....

she wil challenge him to a penis length contest and ......... win

[glockmail]

she wil challenge him to a penis length contest and ......... win Dunno. He is half black. And you've seen the size of his friggin' ears? :lol:

[Pale Rider]

she wil challenge him to a penis length contest and ......... win

She'll anounce that she and Obama are lovers, and then she'll ask him to be her V.P..

Oh wait... hitlery's a bull dyke. That isn't it.

[glockmail]

She'll anounce that she and Obama are lovers, and then she'll ask him to be her V.P..

Oh wait... hitlery's a bull dyke. That isn't it. Bull dyke ain't gonna get her erected- er- elected. That will never be part of the equation.

There has to be a way to nail Obama without it being seen as her involvement. I'm sure she'll think of something.

[Abbey Marie]

Bull dyke ain't gonna get her erected- er- elected. That will never be part of the equation.

There has to be a way to nail Obama without it being seen as her involvement. I'm sure she'll think of something.

And she will [Whitewater] easily [Vince Foster's death] get away [travel office documents] with it.

[Pale Rider]

And she will [Whitewater] easily [Vince Foster's death] get away [travel office documents] with it.

And that ain't no lie......




THE CLINTON BODY COUNT


James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation. Was James McDougal Murdered In A Federal Prison To Silence Him?

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
The Botched Ron Brown Investigation
An Interview with AFIP Forensic Photographer Kathleen Janoski
by Wesley Phelan

Vince Foster - Former white House councelor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide. Snippets From The Vince Foster Death Investigation


Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just as she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
Mary C. Mahoney and Eric Butera


Was this just a robbery gone bad? - See: Starbucks Suspect Faces Host of Charges By Bill Miller Washington Post, August 5, 1999



C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser: Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an aparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living roon with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant - Sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15,1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena arkansas airport drug operation. Controversal case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. see: The Train Deaths - plus some comments from a mother of one of the boys about the connection to Bill Clinton..

THE FOLLOWING SEVEN PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:
Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988

Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

http://www.zpub.com/un/un-bc-body.html

[avatar4321]

No, but maybe a story that she's been some long-term black guy's pleasure ho would steal that portion of the Democrat vote. :laugh2:

I think most black men would have more sense than that.

[glockmail]

I think most black men would have more sense than that. She can make him wealthy and famous. She'd find plenty to choose from. Maybe Danny Glover?

[avatar4321]

She can make him wealthy and famous. She'd find plenty to choose from. Maybe Danny Glover?

Im not sure it would be worth it.

[gabosaurus]

I don't believe Hillary was ever actually the front runner. Certainly not now. I believe that status belongs to Obama.

[glockmail]

Im not sure it would be worth it. I know I liberal guy that has the hots for her. Mike Moore does too. :puke:

[gabosaurus]

Republicans everywhere should be praying for Hillary to gain the Dem nomination. It is the only chance the GOP has to hold on to the White House.

[avatar4321]

Republicans everywhere should be praying for Hillary to gain the Dem nomination. It is the only chance the GOP has to hold on to the White House.

So you have some good candidates hiding somewhere?

[Pale Rider]

I don't believe Hillary was ever actually the front runner. Certainly not now. I believe that status belongs to Obama.

But she's your GOLDEN GIRL! And forget Obama, he can't get elected. America just isn't ready for him, a half black muslim. Forget it.

[glockmail]

Looks like Rush agrees with me that Hillary is extremely likey to be the next Prez:
Opining that there is an “80 percent chance” that Hillary will be the next president, Rush added that criticism of conservatives on the radio “is about destroying the credibility of anybody who has anything in opposition, to save the Clintons and their quest to be re-ensconced in the White House . . . http://news.newsmax.com/?bUX7DqMFHb-ng72o0-KMZnR163b

[Pale Rider]

Looks like Rush agrees with me that Hillary is extremely likey to be the next Prez: http://news.newsmax.com/?bUX7DqMFHb-ng72o0-KMZnR163b

Yeah that Rush... he likes to joke around at times.

[manu1959]

Looks like Rush agrees with me that Hillary is extremely likey to be the next Prez: http://news.newsmax.com/?bUX7DqMFHb-ng72o0-KMZnR163b

rush just says that to mobilze oposistion so she won't be elected....