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Noir
01-20-2010, 05:30 PM
Tis an interesting talk, though a little slow at times,

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Kathianne
01-20-2010, 05:32 PM
I don't care for long or tiresome videos. Can you give a brief synopsis?

Noir
01-20-2010, 05:42 PM
Main ideas - What is the point in public education? On the whole it is to produce university professors. The whole system is designed by and for universities.

Traveling world-wide there are common educational levels, at the top Maths/science, then the humanities, then the arts at the bottom, and even within the arts were art and music are higher than Drama and dance ect.

The system is also failing, because where once a Uni degree would separate you from the rest now it doesn't, and so you must get and Masters to be distinguished, and this form of academic inflation will not stop.

He also talks about someone he knew who would be classed as a 'troubled child' but rather than be given drugs and taught to calm down as they more than likely would nowadays, she was put into a dance school and has become a world famous dancer, musical writer and has her own dance company,

Thats the main meat of it.

Kathianne
01-20-2010, 05:57 PM
Main ideas - What is the point in public education? On the whole it is to produce university professors. The whole system is designed by and for universities. I don't know about UK, but here it's to create a literate electorate and productive workforce. Does it always work? Nope. Arts though are generally included in both public and private education, reverse terms in UK.

I teach in private school: 2 periods @ 50 minutes Spanish. 1 period Art. 1 period music. 3 periods PE. At least 4 field trips per year in Art/Music: all day, (9 am arrival at site-1 pm return to school.) I'd say that the public schools do better, they have more money. My kids had art and music both twice a week. Foreign language 5 days a week. PE 5 days a week. We offer 'band' but it costs, 2 sessions @ 1/2 hour. My kids had in public schools (for additional cost) before or after school for 45 minutes 3 times a week. Public schools have longer days at school.


Traveling world-wide there are common educational levels, at the top Maths/science, then the humanities, then the arts at the bottom, and even within the arts were art and music are higher than Drama and dance ect. Seems to me that 'world-wide' is looking at productivity. The hierarchy seems based on IQ and salaries. Is that by definition a bad thing? If we were all artists, what would the world be like? How would we eat, who'd service our homes?


The system is also failing, because where once a Uni degree would separate you from the rest now it doesn't, and so you must get and Masters to be distinguished, and this form of academic inflation will not stop. Hmm, a whopping 30% at best have a BA/BS, in developed countries. Seems a bit of hyperbole here. Advanced degrees help with income, but not by that much. Ask me, I know.


He also talks about someone he knew who would be classed as a 'troubled child' but rather than be given drugs and taught to calm down as they more than likely would nowadays, she was put into a dance school and has become a world famous dancer, musical writer and has her own dance company,

Thats the main meat of it.
That last bit I wouldn't disagree with. Many 'troubled children' excel in the arts. Many BD kids are geniuses. Always has been the case.