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Little-Acorn
02-25-2010, 01:53 PM
They are discussing how to reform Health Care.

But the problem is, the conservatives want the government out of Health Care. And the Democrats want government heavily involved in Health Care, basically running the whole thing. They make a few comments about "some" private functions still being "allowed", but the very idea of government having the power to decide what parts of Health Care will be "allowed", is anathema to conservatives.

With conservatives wanting government out, and leftists wanting government in, what compromise is possible?

If the conclusion is that government will only run part of it instead of all of it, is this really a compromise?

It's a lot like people who have all their money in a bank on one side, and bank robbers on the other side. The people want their money to stay in the bank, and the robbers want to take it out. A "compromise" might be that the robbers only get part of it and the people get to keep the rest in the bank.

This is clearly ridiculous. The very notion that a "compromise" is possible, means that the people (or, in the health care case, the conservatives) lose, period; and the robbers (or leftists) win.

The socialist Democrats are trying to debate the question of how much the government should take over health care. The conservative Republicans (there are some there, somewhere) are trying to debate whether the govt should take over any of it at all. If the Republicans even allow that the Democrats' question is "debatable", the Republicans automatically have lost.

What compromise is even possible?

What can this so-called "Summit" be, other than another Democrat smoke-and-mirrors diversion where majority Democrats try once again, to ram their government-uber-alles proposals down the throats of and American citizenry that has repeatedly insisted they don't want them?

Mr. P
02-25-2010, 02:10 PM
There is no compromise while ignoring the will of the people.

There is political suicide, however. Pull that trigger boys, November is just 8 mos. away.

avatar4321
02-25-2010, 02:27 PM
There can be no compromise with people who don't want compromise.

Kathianne
02-25-2010, 02:30 PM
There is no compromise while ignoring the will of the people.

There is political suicide, however. Pull that trigger boys, November is just 8 mos. away.

Correctomundo:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/25/poll-majority-oppose-reconciliation/?fbid=eVfj1PfQ8jI


February 25, 2010
Poll: Majority oppose reconciliation
Posted: February 25th, 2010 12:13 PM ET

From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser
Washington (CNN) - A new poll suggests that a majority of Americans would oppose a move by Senate Democrats to use a parliamentary procedure called 'reconciliation' to avoid a Republican filibuster and pass their health care reform legislation by a simple majority vote.

A Gallup survey released Thursday morning indicates that 52 percent of the public opposes using reconciliation, with 39 percent favoring the move, and 9 percent unsure.

At Thursday's health care summit, in his opening remarks, Republican spokesman Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee urged the Democrats not to use reconciliation to ram the measure through Congress.

Trigg
02-25-2010, 02:40 PM
There are sound compromises that can be made.

Tort reform being a biggie IMHO. People don't realize how much Dr's pay for medical malpractice insurance and guess what folks, that extra cost is passed onto the consumer.


In Commonwealth countries, those initiating liability lawsuits must pay court costs as well as the legal expenses of defendants should they lose, thus greatly reducing the number of such cases

The gov. is already heavily involved in heathcare in the form of medicare and medicade both of which need to be fixed.

avatar4321
02-25-2010, 04:01 PM
Ah but unfortunatly Washington is inhopsitable to actually fixing problems.

Mr. P
02-25-2010, 04:38 PM
There are sound compromises that can be made.

Tort reform being a biggie IMHO. People don't realize how much Dr's pay for medical malpractice insurance and guess what folks, that extra cost is passed onto the consumer.



The gov. is already heavily involved in heathcare in the form of medicare and medicade both of which need to be fixed.

There can be no compromise on something the people don't want to start with. That being Government fingers in personal health insurance.

Yes..tort reform IS needed and it would help with cost but it's NOT what I nor the public are opposed to or are focusing on now. At this time it's more important to STOP the takeover of a private industry.