Our friends and allies, the Saudis

[gabosaurus]

Some Saudi soldiers made this video before going off to "destroy Americans." Bushies and House of Saud pretend it is not happening.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=81c_1177341558

[theHawk]

Some Saudi soldiers made this video before going off to "destroy Americans." Bushies and House of Saud pretend it is not happening.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=81c_1177341558

And what do you propose be done about it?

This wouldn't be just another anti-Bush diatribe would it? btw what did Clinton do different?


:poke:

[badger]

It is well known that Al Qadea funding comes principally from individuals in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and Iran (even though Al Qaeda is Sunni). The US has not shown the political will necessary to confront the individuals and organizations providing support for Al Qaeda from these countries. The totalitarian government of Saudi Arabia, for example, is afraid of going after Al Qaeda supporters because it does not want to bring the war to Mecca. Today, nine more US soldiers were murdered in Iraq by an Al Qadea homicide bomber. The gloves should have come off a long time ago. We should follow the Al Qadea funds to their sources. Then they should be eliminated whether or not we have the cooperation of the host government. See this Council on Foreign Relations website; it outlines where Aq Qaeda gets its funding: http://www.cfr.org/publication/13007/#7

[manu1959]

It is well known that Al Qadea funding comes principally from individuals in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and Iran (even though Al Qaeda is Sunni). The US has not shown the political will necessary to confront the individuals and organizations providing support for Al Qaeda from these countries. The totalitarian government of Saudi Arabia, for example, is afraid of going after Al Qaeda supporters because it does not want to bring the war to Mecca. Today, nine more US soldiers were murdered in Iraq by an Al Qadea homicide bomber. The gloves should have come off a long time ago. We should follow the Al Qadea funds to their sources. Then they should be eliminated whether or not we have the cooperation of the host government. See this Council on Foreign Relations website; it outlines where Aq Qaeda gets its funding: http://www.cfr.org/publication/13007/#7

the saudis have captured and killed al queda inside their own borders....but yes the funds should be cut off....

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2005/08/18/al_awfi_killed20050816.html

[Samantha]

It is well known that Al Qadea funding comes principally from individuals in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and Iran (even though Al Qaeda is Sunni). The US has not shown the political will necessary to confront the individuals and organizations providing support for Al Qaeda from these countries. Because the Bush family is friends with the Bin Laden family.
The totalitarian government of Saudi Arabia, for example, is afraid of going after Al Qaeda supporters because it does not want to bring the war to Mecca. Today, nine more US soldiers were murdered in Iraq by an Al Qadea homicide bomber. The gloves should have come off a long time ago. We should follow the Al Qadea funds to their sources. Then they should be eliminated whether or not we have the cooperation of the host government. See this Council on Foreign Relations website; it outlines where Aq Qaeda gets its funding: http://www.cfr.org/publication/13007/#7 We can't follow the money because it leads to the Bin Laden family and the Saudi Royals. The Bush family won't give up the Carlysle Group and their close ties with the Saudis. Saudi Arabia has threatened the US through Cheney that if we leave Iraq, they will openly fund and support the Sunni, Saddam loyalist insurgents in Iraq.

[Samantha]

the saudis have captured and killed al queda inside their own borders....but yes the funds should be cut off....Proof please?

[gabosaurus]

The Bushies kowtow to the Saudi Royal Family at every opportunity. Beginning with the 200 pages excised out of the original 9-11 report because it "cast the Saudi government in an unfavorable light." Also, those traveling with Saudi passports cannot be refused entry into the U.S. for any reason.
How many terrorists are in the U.S. now because we were not allowed to keep them out?

[Samantha]

And what do you propose be done about it?

This wouldn't be just another anti-Bush diatribe would it? btw what did Clinton do different?


:poke:Clinton was not connected to the Saudis as the Bush family is.


The bin Ladens eventually invest in the Carlyle Group. Carlyle buys a company called Vinnell Corp., which provides training to the Saudi palace guard. George W. Bush briefly sits on the board of directors of one of Carlyle's subsidiaries.


1987
Harken Energy, a company that George W. Bush's failed oil companies have been folded into, receives $25-million stock offering underwritten by significant players connected to the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), a Middle Eastern banking concern. Bush is key to Harken obtaining the money.


August
President Bush receives a detailed and lengthy presidential daily briefing from the CIA in which Osama Bin Laden and al Qaeda's aim of launching an attack against the US is discussed. To this day, the Bush White House refuses to release the contents of this briefing to Congressional inquiries into 9/11.

The CIA finally puts al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar's name on the watch lists. By then it is too late. The FBI and CIA do a limited search for the men.

Sept. 11/2001
The attack occurs. The morning of the attack George Bush Sr. is meets with members of the Carlyle Group in Washington. Bin Laden's own brother is at the meeting. Members of the Bin Laden family are allowed to leave the U.S. without questioning two days later.

More here (http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html)

[Samantha]

The Bushies kowtow to the Saudi Royal Family at every opportunity. Beginning with the 200 pages excised out of the original 9-11 report because it "cast the Saudi government in an unfavorable light." Also, those traveling with Saudi passports cannot be refused entry into the U.S. for any reason.
How many terrorists are in the U.S. now because we were not allowed to keep them out?And some people are stupid enough to think that Bush is fighting terrorism. Bush is fighting to make his family richer than ever. The Carlyle Group, Halliburton, Northrup Grumman all of these are Bush/Cheney companies. Mrs Cheney sits on the board of Northrup Grumman, TO THIS DAY even.

[avatar4321]

Proof please?

Yeah, that would be the article he linked to right under his statement...

[avatar4321]

Because the Bush family is friends with the Bin Laden family. We can't follow the money because it leads to the Bin Laden family and the Saudi Royals. The Bush family won't give up the Carlysle Group and their close ties with the Saudis. Saudi Arabia has threatened the US through Cheney that if we leave Iraq, they will openly fund and support the Sunni, Saddam loyalist insurgents in Iraq.

Now that you need to back up.

[avatar4321]

And some people are stupid enough to think that Bush is fighting terrorism. Bush is fighting to make his family richer than ever. The Carlyle Group, Halliburton, Northrup Grumman all of these are Bush/Cheney companies. Mrs Cheney sits on the board of Northrup Grumman, TO THIS DAY even.

Got to love the conspiracy theories.

[gabosaurus]

Do your research, dudes. Start with the excellent book "House of Bush, House of Saud." Tell you pretty much everything you need to know.

[theHawk]

Clinton was not connected to the Saudis as the Bush family is.



More here (http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html)

Your own link shows Clinton was just as soft on the Saudis as Bush, which was exactly my point.



1996
Osama bin Laden is forced to move from the Sudan to Afghanistan under pressure from the Clinton administration. Neither the US nor the Saudis make an effort to arrest him – despite the opportunity offered up to them by the Sudanese government.

June
A truck bomb blows up the al-Khobar barracks, housing US air force personnel in Saudi Arabia, killing 19 soldiers. A group called Saudi Hezbollah claims responsibility. Eventually, the Clinton administration drops the investigation because it does not want to upset relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran – the country that funds Hezbollah.