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hjmick
03-05-2010, 06:18 PM
You start at the top. Having a functionally illiterate person as President of the school board doesn't exactly set the best example.


Does DPS leader's writing send wrong message?
Laura Berman


The president of the Detroit school board, Otis Mathis, is waging a legal battle to steer the academic future of 90,000 children, in the nation's lowest-achieving big city district.

He also acknowledges he has difficulty composing a coherent English sentence. Here's a sample from an e-mail he sent to friends and supporters on Sunday night, uncorrected for errors of spelling, grammar, punctuation and usage. It begins:

If you saw Sunday's Free Press that shown Robert Bobb the emergency financial manager for Detroit Public Schools, move Mark Twain to Boynton which have three times the number seats then students and was one of the reason's he gave for closing school to many empty seats.

The rest of the e-mail, and others that Mathis has written, demonstrate what one of his school board colleagues describes, carefully, as "his communication issues." But if these deficits have limited Mathis, as he admits they have, they have not stopped him from graduating from high school and college. In January, his peers elected him president by a 10-1 vote over Tyrone Winfrey, a University of Michigan academic officer.


"I'm a horrible writer. I know that," says Mathis, 56, a lifelong resident of southwest Detroit. His difficulties with language were spotted as early as fourth grade, when he was placed in special education classes. His college degree was held up for more than a decade because he repeatedly failed an English proficiency exam then required for graduation at Wayne State University...

But the story of Mathis speaks directly to Detroit's educational conundrum, as officials try to raise standards and the proficiency of its students.

Is Mathis a success story? A man who beat the odds to win political success and career opportunities on the strength of his personality and judgment? Or is he an example of the system's worst failings -- a disinterested student who always found ways to graduate, even when he didn't meet the requirements -- likely to perpetuate lax academic standards if the board wins its court battle with Bobb over control?

"It's kind of scary to even talk about," says Patrick Martin, 49, a Detroit contractor whose 12-year-old son is a student at Noble Middle School.

"If this is the leader, what does it say about the followers? It explains a lot about why there's so much confusion and infighting with the board and Robert Bobb."

Another e-mail

Here's another mass e-mail from Mathis, from Aug. 11, 2009:

Do DPS control the Foundation or outside group? If an outside group control the foundation, then what is DPS Board row with selection of is director? Our we mixing DPS and None DPS row's, and who is the watch dog?

...

Can Mathis read?

"Yes, I can read. I'm capable of reading a lot of information and regurgitation," says Mathis, who told me he sometimes needs to read documents two or three times to fully comprehend their contents but then masters -- and memorizes -- them.

Engaging and honest

Mathis is an engaging man. When I asked him about the grammatical deficiencies in his e-mails, he didn't waffle or grandstand, instead honestly answering questions about his difficulties in school...

Mathis and another student unsuccessfully challenged the use of an English proficiency test as a requirement for graduation. In 1992, when the case went to trial, the lawsuit gained national attention. Mathis said then his failure to pass the test "made me feel stupid." The requirement was eventually dropped in 2007, and Mathis applied to get his degree the next year, after his election.

Understands struggling kids

Mathis, who can be a persuasive public speaker, retired from Wayne in 1995. He's served as a substitute teacher in Detroit schools, run a nonprofit and served on the Wayne County Commission.

In his career, Mathis has compensated for his rudimentary writing skills by seeking help from others and working on his listening and speech skills. "We picked him (to be president) because we thought he has the intelligence for it and the tolerance for disruptive behavior," says Reverend David Murray. "He has that type of calm."

Is it absurd for a man who cannot write a simple English sentence to serve as the board president? Or to lead the elected board of a district that ranks at the nation's bottom for literacy?

The questions are more likely to elicit complex answers than criticism of Mathis.

"I know he's a terrible writer. Oh wow, I've seen his e-mails," says Ida Byrd-Hill, a parent and activist who runs a nonprofit and is a member of Mensa, the high-IQ group.

"His job, though, is to represent the community. His lack of writing skills is prevalent in the community. If anybody does, he understands the struggles of what it's like to go through an institution and not be properly prepared."

Mathis and some of his supporters say his story is about someone who manages his limitations, just as others manage physical disabilities.

"Instead of telling them that they can't write and won't be anything, I show that cannot stop you," Mathis says. "If Detroit Public Schools can allow kids to dream, with whatever weakness they have, that's something. ...It's not about what you don't have. It's what you cando."

Because of his struggles and perseverance, Mathis describes himself as a role model.

But is he?


From The Detroit News: Does DPS leader's writing send wrong message? | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/article/20100304/OPINION03/3040437/#ixzz0hLXCzaYZ)



Shit rolls down hill.

No way this guy should be involved in educating kids.

Missileman
03-05-2010, 06:23 PM
You start at the top. Having a functionally illiterate person as President of the school board doesn't exactly set the best example.



Shit rolls down hill.

No way this guy should be involved in educating kids.

I disagree...I think he'd make a wonderful school janitor.

hjmick
03-05-2010, 06:25 PM
Sure, there's that. LOL.

DragonStryk72
03-05-2010, 07:24 PM
My question is: If you know that your writing is bad, and you're coming up on a position like this, why on earth wouldn't you take a class to improve? I can understand a certain degree of slacking in school, but come on.

Here's a thought: Reread your sentences aloud, and if it sounds stupid, you've written it wrong.

Gaffer
03-05-2010, 07:37 PM
Affirmative action in action. His skin color got him where he is today.

PostmodernProphet
03-05-2010, 08:44 PM
Apparently in Detroit you are a success story if you rise above being an unsuccessful student and become an unsuccessful school administrator......

avatar4321
03-05-2010, 11:50 PM
Here's a thought: Reread your sentences aloud, and if it sounds stupid, you've written it wrong.

Good advice for peoplel who know how to speak correctly.

hjmick
03-06-2010, 12:18 AM
Good advice for peoplel who know how to speak correctly.

Good advice for people, too.

Mr. P
03-06-2010, 12:36 AM
Good advice for people, too.

Smart ass! :slap:

I wasn't gonna do it though cuz it happens to us all from time to time. :laugh2:

hjmick
03-06-2010, 12:40 AM
Smart ass! :slap:

I wasn't gonna do it though cuz it happens to us all from time to time. :laugh2:

I couldn't help myself. If it's of any consequence, the sentence would be more correct had I typed, "It is also good advice for people."

My dad tought college English, it's a habit I inherited.

Missileman
03-06-2010, 01:54 AM
I couldn't help myself. If it's of any consequence, the sentence would be more correct had I typed, "It is also good advice for people."

My dad tought college English, it's a habit I inherited.

You meant "taught", right? :laugh:

Abbey Marie
03-06-2010, 05:47 PM
Isn't this an elected position? I guess this is what the people want.

I can see a future where we will all be forced to accept this type of speech/writing as just another variant of the English language, or be called racist.

hjmick
03-06-2010, 07:39 PM
You meant "taught", right? :laugh:

LMAO, yeah, he did that as well.