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Kathianne
03-15-2010, 06:56 PM
How can you NOT believe in him?


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OldMercsRule
03-15-2010, 07:15 PM
Because I have one functional brain cell.

Kathianne
03-15-2010, 07:28 PM
I'm much more hopeful this is going down in flames :flameth::

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704416904575121541779736742.html


MARCH 15, 2010
Swing Districts Oppose Health Reform
Sobering poll news for 35 key House members.
By HEATHER R. HIGGINS AND KELLYANNE E. CONWAY

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she plans to bring health-care reform to a vote this week. Democratic leaders cite national polls that show support for individual provisions of the bill as a reason to pass this reform. Yet vulnerable politicians should be warned: Responses to questions about individual benefits, particularly when removed from a cost context, are different from those on the whole bill.

Voters in key congressional districts are clear in their opposition to what they have seen, read and heard on health-care reform. That's one of the findings of a survey that will be released today by the Polling Company on behalf of Independent Women's Voice. The survey consisted of 1,200 registered voters in 35 districts represented by members who could determine the outcome of the health-care debate. Twenty of those members voted for the House bill in November but now may be reconsidering. Fifteen voted against the bill but are under tremendous pressure to change their vote.

The survey shows astonishing intensity and sharp opposition to reform, far more than national polls reflect. For 82% of those surveyed, the heath-care bill is either the top or one of the top three issues for deciding whom to support for Congress next November. (That number goes to 88% among independent women.) Sixty percent want Congress to start from scratch on a bipartisan health-care reform proposal or stop working on it this year. Majorities say the legislation will make them and their loved ones (53%), the economy (54%) and the U.S. health-care system (55%) worse off—quite the trifecta.

Seven in 10 would vote against a House member who votes for the Senate health-care bill with its special interest provisions. That includes 45% of self-identified Democrats, 72% of independents and 88% of Republicans...

DragonStryk72
03-15-2010, 07:35 PM
3000%? how does that work? Will the insurance companies now be paying me to use their health cale services?

Let's say I spend $100 a month on my insurance right now, that would mean that since 100% of $100 is $100, 3000% of $100 is equal 30 times that much, so it would come to $3000 off.

$ 100 - $3000= -$2900

Now, according to Obama, then, I would be taking an income of 2900 dollars a month off my health insurance, plus what the insurance company pays when I get sick, injured, etc.. Now, somehow this is not supposed to bankrupt either the insurance companies, or the government, but I'm just not seeing it. Maybe our liberal friends that are in support of it could explain that part to me?

Cap'n Chew
03-15-2010, 07:37 PM
You know that % is rather close to $ on the keyboard, coulda easily been a typo.

Just trying to be a bit rational about it.

DragonStryk72
03-15-2010, 07:40 PM
You know that % is rather close to $ on the keyboard, coulda easily been a typo.

Just trying to be a bit rational about it.

Okay, so where is the $3000 x 300,000,000.00= $900,000,000,000.00 coming from?

Kathianne
03-15-2010, 07:43 PM
3000%? how does that work? Will the insurance companies now be paying me to use their health cale services?

Let's say I spend $100 a month on my insurance right now, that would mean that since 100% of $100 is $100, 3000% of $100 is equal 30 times that much, so it would come to $3000 off.

$ 100 - $3000= -$2900

Now, according to Obama, then, I would be taking an income of 2900 dollars a month off my health insurance, plus what the insurance company pays when I get sick, injured, etc.. Now, somehow this is not supposed to bankrupt either the insurance companies, or the government, but I'm just not seeing it. Maybe our liberal friends that are in support of it could explain that part to me?

Ask Obama, he's the one that said it. Oh yeah, we're all getting raises off the savings! LOL!

Cap'n Chew
03-15-2010, 07:48 PM
Okay, so where is the $3000 x 300,000,000.00= $900,000,000,000.00 coming from?

Not every citizen works, nor does every person who does work get insurance from their employer, thus your equation is flawed.

OldMercsRule
03-15-2010, 08:07 PM
Not every citizen works, nor does every person who does work get insurance from their employer, thus your equation is flawed.


Butt "95% of all Americans will get a tax cut" eh: Cap'n Chew?? :laugh2:


Obamaprompter is the most arrogant bald faced liar I have ever seen.


Sooooo many kool aid drinkers jus' luv the sound of his voice lyin' or not, that is how we got this inexperienced Chicago thug to be POTUS in the first place.


He is either dumb as a post or he is really counting on the financial crisis he is making MUCH worse with his Socialist CENTRAL CORNTROL proposals that will make the inevitable train wreck for this great Country cause Americans to again vote fer dim wit Democrats as they did in the 1930s and the mid 1970s.


What a mess.....sigh... JR

SassyLady
03-15-2010, 08:15 PM
He can say things like this because he knows that no one really listens to what he is saying anymore.

And, if anyone does question it, he stutter until he finally decides what the public really wants to hear.

He is slippery than a greased pig.

Cap'n Chew
03-15-2010, 08:50 PM
Butt "95% of all Americans will get a tax cut" eh: Cap'n Chew?? :laugh2:

Obamaprompter is the most arrogant bald faced liar I have ever seen.

What a mess.....sigh... JR

95% of working Americans, it was a payroll tax cut. You kinda have to work to get the tax break.

Mr. P
03-15-2010, 09:38 PM
You know that % is rather close to $ on the keyboard, coulda easily been a typo.

Just trying to be a bit rational about it.

Great point, Chew. If a white house speech writer makes a typo just think how cool yer government brain surgery might be. And you'll have NO recourse. :laugh2:

red states rule
03-16-2010, 06:03 AM
How can you NOT believe in him?

Oh brother! Where the hell did he come up with this number? From the same place where he got the stimumlus "saved or created" 2 million jobs?

Mr President -

http://mahopa.de/bilder/lustige-forenbilder/sit-in-the-corner-dumbass.jpg

red states rule
03-16-2010, 06:04 AM
You know that % is rather close to $ on the keyboard, coulda easily been a typo.

Just trying to be a bit rational about it.

Keep trying to spin the triple whopper with cheese. It is all you can do under the circumstances

avatar4321
03-17-2010, 01:23 AM
You can tell the blonde woman behind him wasnt buying that for a minute.

avatar4321
03-17-2010, 01:27 AM
Watching the video over again, it didnt seem like most of those people wanted to be there. They looked bored, tired, and really unenthusiastic about what he was saying.

And there were more people than i realized who werent cheering when they did the very simple math there.

CSM
03-17-2010, 06:06 AM
You can tell the blonde woman behind him wasnt buying that for a minute.

She's blond....blondes don't do numbers

red states rule
03-17-2010, 06:12 AM
First Navy corpsemen, 57 states, and now this.

Looks like a Harvard education is not all that it is cracked up to be

Meanwhile, the CBO estimates that the insurance premiums for the 70% of workers who get their benefits through their job, will go up 27% to 30%

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10781/11-30-Premiums.pdf

MtnBiker
03-17-2010, 09:27 AM
You know that % is rather close to $ on the keyboard, coulda easily been a typo.

Just trying to be a bit rational about it.

So, exactly how is the President qualifying a $3,000 dollar reduction anymore creditable?

Dang Straight
03-17-2010, 09:31 AM
Bumbling Obama will say anything needed to make ObamaCare look like a good deal. The really sad thing is many believe every word out of his mouth, instead of doing a little investigating on their own.

A pile of shit is still a pile of shit no matter how appealing you make it look to the eye. ObamaCare is a pile of shit.

red states rule
03-17-2010, 09:38 AM
Bumbling Obama will say anything needed to make ObamaCare look like a good deal. The really sad thing is many believe every word out of his mouth, instead of doing a little investigating on their own.

A pile of shit is still a pile of shit no matter how appealing you make it look to the eye. ObamaCare is a pile of shit.

http://radioactiveliberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/Obama-Care-Dead-Political-Humor-300x213.jpg

Monkeybone
03-17-2010, 09:41 AM
Everyone! Everyone just calm down! the president misspoke. This is what happens when you skim the teleprompter and not read it. it was 3000 dollars that it will be lowered by.

carry on.

red states rule
03-17-2010, 09:42 AM
Everyone! Everyone just clam down! the president misspoke. This is what happens when you skim the teleprompter and not read it. it was 3000 dollars that it will be lowered by.

carry on.

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Monkeybone
03-17-2010, 09:44 AM
http://www.funnyobamas.com/pictures/Affirmative_Action.jpg

bad dum *kish!

red states rule
03-17-2010, 09:48 AM
bad dum *kish!


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Dang Straight
03-17-2010, 10:17 AM
Yes Obama mis-spoke, has been doing that from the get go.............