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red states rule
05-06-2010, 04:49 AM
Is this a surprise to anyone? Dems should be slapping each other on the back since this is what they wanted by passing Obamacare





(Fortune) -- The great mystery surrounding the historic health care bill is how the corporations that provide coverage for most Americans -- coverage they know and prize -- will react to the new law's radically different regime of subsidies, penalties, and taxes. Now, we're getting a remarkable inside look at the options AT&T, Deere, and other big companies are weighing to deal with the new legislation.

Internal documents recently reviewed by Fortune, originally requested by Congress, show what the bill's critics predicted, and what its champions dreaded: many large companies are examining a course that was heretofore unthinkable, dumping the health care coverage they provide to their workers in exchange for paying penalty fees to the government.



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The cost side

Indeed, companies are far more likely to cease providing coverage if they predict the bill will lift rather than flatten the cost curve. Deere, for example said, "We do expect double digit health care increases as most Americans will now have insurance and providers try to absorb the 15% uninsured into a practice."

Both Caterpillar (CAT, Fortune 500) and Verizon believe the requirement to allow dependents to remain on their parents' policies until age 26 will prove costly. Caterpillar puts the added expense at $20 million a year.

How two new taxes and the employer penalty change the health care calculus

First, there is the "Cadillac Tax" on expensive plans. This is a 40% excise tax on policies that cost over $8,500 for an individual or $23,000 for a family. Verizon's document predicts the tax will cost its employees $255 million a year when it starts in 2018, and rise sharply from there. Hewitt also isn't sure that Verizon can pass on the full tax to its employees; so it could impose a heavy weight on the company as well. "Many [have] characterized this tax as a pass-through to the consumer," says the Verizon document. "However, there will be significant legal and bargaining risks to overcome for this to be the case for Verizon."

In a statement to Fortune, Verizon said it is not, "considering or even contemplating" the plans laid out in the report, though records show the company did send the report to its board shortly after the reform plan was passed by Congress.

Second, the bill imposes new taxes on drug manufacturers, medical device-makers, and health insurance providers. Hewitt leaves little doubt Verizon will be paying for them: "These provisions are fees or excise taxes that will be shifted to employers through increased fees and rates."

Caterpillar and AT&T actually spell out the cost differences: Caterpillar did its estimate in November, when the most likely legislation would have imposed an 8% payroll tax on companies that do not provide coverage. Even with that immense penalty, Caterpillar stated that it could shave $25 million a year, or almost 10% from its bill. Now, because the $2,000 is far lower than 8%, it could reduce its bill by over 70%, by Fortune's estimate. Caterpillar did not respond to a request for comment.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/news/companies/dropping_benefits.fortune/index.htm

Monkeybone
05-06-2010, 06:26 AM
This is exactly what they wanted to happen. That is why there is really nothing about Healthcare in the Bill...just a bunch of policies about Health insurance... and apparently people just didn't seem to understand that. Nor did it really provide.... it just helped. They want to burden everyone so much that they have to drop and go to the Gov so that the Gov can just say "See... we have to take care of it" and go to the single payer system like most of the people in the Obama Regime want.

CSM
05-06-2010, 06:40 AM
This is exactly what they wanted to happen. That is why there is really nothing about Healthcare in the Bill...just a bunch of policies about Health insurance... and apparently people just didn't seem to understand that. Nor did it really provide.... it just helped. They want to burden everyone so much that they have to drop and go to the Gov so that the Gov can just say "See... we have to take care of it" and go to the single payer system like most of the people in the Obama Regime want.

Dependency on the government is the central plank of the Democrat's party platform. Along with that cpmes the philosophy of abdication of personal responsibility for ANYTHING! At the heart of it all, Dems and libs abhor the idea of self reliance, discipline, morality and loyalty to principle. This, more than anything, is why I absolutely DETEST them.