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Pale Rider
04-26-2007, 02:41 PM
Myths and Lies of Illegal Immigration



By Kathy McKee; January 4, 2004; published in The Sonoran News


Because the pro-illegal alien lobby has a bottomless pit of money and can hire PR people to spin (and fabricate) anything any way, there are an undue number of myths and lies that the public (and many politicians) has bought into. The FACTS are:

1. It is NOT racist to call these people "illegal aliens" In fact, "illegal aliens" is the only term used in federal laws and regulations to describe criminals (and they ARE criminals) who come into our country illegally. They are not illegal immigrants, not undocumented immigrants, not migrant workers, and not day laborers - they're ILLEGAL ALIENS.

2. Mexico is NOT a poor country. By sending its teeming masses to our country, that status keeps on rising. Mexico has more resources per square mile than the U.S. and plenty of money to take care of its own people. Why should the taxpayers of this country subsidize Mexico's corruption?

3. Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work.

4. Illegal aliens are NOT doing work Americans won't do. What jobs won't Americans do? In most states, Americans still clean their own houses, do their own landscaping, clean hotel rooms, work in restaurants and fast food places, paint houses, DO CONSTRUCTION WORK, work in airports, etc. - just like we have the past 200 years before "our" government allowed these people to invade our country. There are 18 million Americans who cannot find a job, so illegal aliens who are coming here to work do so at peril to American workers.

5. Illegal aliens absolutely do not contribute more than they cost. Certainly the millions in prison and on welfare aren't contributing a dime to our economy, and the ones who are working often are paid in cash with no deductions for taxes at all. The ones who use fraudulent social security numbers and qualify to pay taxes and social security have so many deductions for dependents that they pay little if any taxes. We have seen them pay less than $100 in taxes and get back $4,000 refunds (thanks to earned income tax credits and multiple dependents).Some bargain, eh?

6. The economy does NOT depend on illegal aliens. Sure, greedy CEOs (making $50 to $150 MILLION a year) and business owners depend on illegal aliens, but due to #3, #4 and #5 above, the only thing illegal aliens are contributing to is the collapse of our economy and making the rich richer.

7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. The definitive study on this subject is the University of Iowa's "How Much Is That Tomato?" The study concludes that 'since labor is such a small component of the end-price of agricultural products (which includes price to the growers, transportation costs, processing /storage costs, grocers' profit, etc.), using minimum wage workers instead of illegal aliens would increase prices of agricultural products by approximately 3 percent in the summer and 4 percent in the winter ... hardly the making of $10 heads of lettuce, $25 hamburgers, $1,000 per night Days Inn hotel rooms like the pro-illegal alien lobby claims.

8. Consumers are NOT benefiting from lower labor costs. Again, it's CEOs and business owners who benefit from taxpayer subsidies for their illegal alien workers. The Big Three automakers say they moved so many jobs to Mexico because their labor costs are 80 percent less than in America. Anybody notice the price of new cars spiraling downward under NAFTA?

So, before you believe the prevalent pack of lies perpetuated by the illegal alien lobby, which makes billions off this government-sanctioned criminal activity, ask yourself who's saying this garbage and look at what they have to gain. Citizens Against Illegal Immigration, just like Protect Arizona NOW, is an all-volunteer, totally grass-roots organization of citizens who are making nothing and have nothing personal to gain from their efforts to fight this corruption. Whose side are you on, and what are YOU doing to save your state and country from this evil?

http://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2004jan04.html

gabosaurus
04-26-2007, 02:50 PM
Thanks for that wonderful racist right-wing hate piece. :cheers2:

stephanie
04-26-2007, 02:57 PM
Now you can't even TALK about how ILLEGIAL immigration cost us in the United States, with out being called a racist..

:lame2:

Pale Rider
04-26-2007, 03:11 PM
Thanks for that wonderful racist right-wing hate piece. :cheers2:

C'moooooon... stop with the looney lefty pat come backs and think for a second. You made an excelent, insightful post on this matter in the other thread just now.

This issue affects us all, dems, repubs, indes, everybody all alike. The article is hard hitting, but there is ZERO about it that's racist or hateful.

gabosaurus
04-26-2007, 06:00 PM
It's a hate piece because it displays little knowledge of the real reasons behind the problems of illegal immigration.
The Mexican government refuses to deal with its own problems, so they send them to us. Our politicians (BOTH parties) refuse to press them on them.
The illegals cross the border because they know they can find work. If employers would refuse to hire them, the people would stay home.
Why do employers hire illegals? Because they can get them to do more work for less money. They are putting profits in front of national security.

I really don't know why the ConReps are against illegal immigration. You favor U.S. corporations moving their plants and factories overseas in order to find cheaper labor, thus avoiding paying taxes and benefits. With illegal immigration, the cheaper labor comes to you. Your company still doesn't have to pay taxes and benefits if they choose not to.

Nukeman
04-26-2007, 07:33 PM
Thanks for that wonderful racist right-wing hate piece. :cheers2:


I would like for you to highlight the part that is "RACIST" coulde you pleas do that.

I would also add that if all the illegals that come to the US put together thier own politicle party it would be very formidable... They could then make a significant change in thier way of life without having to distroy ours...

Pale Rider
04-27-2007, 01:21 PM
I would like for you to highlight the part that is "RACIST" coulde you pleas do that.

I would also add that if all the illegals that come to the US put together thier own politicle party it would be very formidable... They could then make a significant change in thier way of life without having to distroy ours...

They've already got their own political party. It's the democratic party. 40 to 45% of all illegal aliens are on welfare, and if want to keep your welfare, you vote for the democrats, who are all about take from the rich, give to the poor redistribution of wealth.

Hobbit
04-27-2007, 04:24 PM
It's a hate piece because it displays little knowledge of the real reasons behind the problems of illegal immigration.
The Mexican government refuses to deal with its own problems, so they send them to us. Our politicians (BOTH parties) refuse to press them on them.
The illegals cross the border because they know they can find work. If employers would refuse to hire them, the people would stay home.
Why do employers hire illegals? Because they can get them to do more work for less money. They are putting profits in front of national security.

I really don't know why the ConReps are against illegal immigration. You favor U.S. corporations moving their plants and factories overseas in order to find cheaper labor, thus avoiding paying taxes and benefits. With illegal immigration, the cheaper labor comes to you. Your company still doesn't have to pay taxes and benefits if they choose not to.

The last time we had a government here that oppressed the people to make itself rich without allowing representation, did we start crying, and saying 'woe is me,' and go crying over to Mexico or Canada or someplace, demanding everything from tissues for drying our poor eyes to free money just for breathing? Did we run in there and say, "We're leeching off your treasury until you fix our problems?" Hell no! We behaved like men. We kindly told the government to piss off, and when they pressed harder, we started shooting. I say we tell send all the Mexicans back to Mexico with guns and a sense of what corrupt governments deserve. Their problems would be over in a week if they'd stop acting like babies and behave like adults...adults with testicles instead of a blubbering vagina that pours out more whine than the French.