View Full Version : AFL-CIO economist to Cavuto: You’re an A-hole
red states rule
06-25-2010, 08:42 PM
When Neil Cavuto uses facts, reality, and logi when debating a liberal over the deficits and unemployment the liberal falls back on their usual debate tactics - duck the question, insults, and profanity
The fustration level goes critical at around the 4:15 mark
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darin
06-25-2010, 08:46 PM
If unions cared about jobs they'd disband.
red states rule
06-25-2010, 08:48 PM
If unions cared about jobs they'd disband.
Or spend the money they take in dues on more worthwhile things then pouring it to political campaigns to elect Democrats which result in higher taxes on the union members - and destroy the private sector
Gaffer
06-25-2010, 08:52 PM
LOL typical liberal. The man is even talking about world unemployment instead of worrying about the US. We know who the asshole is.
red states rule
06-25-2010, 08:54 PM
LOL typical liberal. The man is even talking about world unemployment instead of worrying about the US. We know who the asshole is.
and he could not explain how Obama "created" jobs when he actually lost 4 million since taking office
Gaffer
06-25-2010, 08:58 PM
and he could not explain how Obama "created" jobs when he actually lost 4 million since taking office
Nope he jumped to world unemployment instead. Unemployment in other countries is not our concern.
red states rule
06-25-2010, 09:05 PM
Nope he jumped to world unemployment instead. Unemployment in other countries is not our concern.
Like most on the left, Obama is out to cut America down to size. Here is what the tax cheat Tim Geithner had to say
US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has told the BBC that the world "cannot depend as much on the US as it did in the past".
He said that other major economies would have to grow more for the global economy to prosper.
He also played down any differences in policy between the US and Europe regarding deficit reduction.
Mr Geithner was speaking in Washington ahead of G8 and G20 meetings this weekend in Toronto.
He said all members of the group were "focused on the challenge of [building] growth and confidence", and would be working to this end at the meetings.
The Group of Eight and Group of 20 rich and developing nations are assembling on Friday for three days of talks on emerging from the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.
UK Prime Minister David Cameron, who has arrived in Canada along with other leaders, said in an article for the Globe And Mail newspaper: "No-one can doubt the biggest promise we have to deliver: fixing the global economy."
"I believe we must each start by setting out plans for getting our national finances under control," he added.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10406463.stm
Insein
06-25-2010, 09:20 PM
What Friggin country in the history of man has portrayed themselves as WEAK ON PURPOSE!?!?! The point of a leadership is to show that you are the strongest nation in the world and make people believe it. Why do you think Kim Jong Il portrays this image that North Korea is a military power with Nukes? Why do you think Ahmadenijad portrays Iran as the mecca of the Middle East? You want your country to be seen as STRONG!!! You don't goto the world and say you can't rely on us? Why are our leaders so fucking stupid? Im losing my god damn mind. We literally have the enemy running the show.
Gaffer
06-25-2010, 09:22 PM
What Friggin country in the history of man has portrayed themselves as WEAK ON PURPOSE!?!?! The point of a leadership is to show that you are the strongest nation in the world and make people believe it. Why do you think Kim Jong Il portrays this image that North Korea is a military power with Nukes? Why do you think Ahmadenijad portrays Iran as the mecca of the Middle East? You want your country to be seen as STRONG!!! You don't goto the world and say you can't rely on us? Why are our leaders so fucking stupid? Im losing my god damn mind. We literally have the enemy running the show.
The enemy resides in the white house. And I don't think he will be removed by process.
cat slave
06-25-2010, 10:03 PM
Agreed! We are at more risk from the likes of what resides
in WA than an outside threat.
actsnoblemartin
06-25-2010, 10:30 PM
am i the only one that sees that Neal never let the guy finish a sentence, and insulted the guy first
granted that was no excuse for cursing
common, lets not drink the Kool aid either :laugh2:
red states rule
06-26-2010, 06:22 AM
Another example of why Fox News is #1. Neil stayed cool, offered facts to his liberal guest, and did not sink to the libs level when the constant direct questions got to the union thug
Sweetchuck
06-26-2010, 08:08 AM
Well, they were both talking over each other and Cavuto threw the first ball of mud.
Problem being is that this guy didn't have a lot of dance floor and Cavuto wouldn't let him spin his way through the answer - which is how an interview should be. When he got cornered, he did the only thing he could do instinctively.
But the point is - How is all of this spending going to sustain real, long-term jobs? How?
The next person to realistically address that question will be the first.
Gaffer
06-26-2010, 08:10 AM
am i the only one that sees that Neal never let the guy finish a sentence, and insulted the guy first
granted that was no excuse for cursing
common, lets not drink the Kool aid either :laugh2:
Look closely Martin. He starts cut him of when the guy goes on a tangent away from what the subject is about. He was starting to spin and Neal was stopping him.
red states rule
06-26-2010, 08:12 AM
Well, they were both talking over each other and Cavuto threw the first ball of mud.
Problem being is that this guy didn't have a lot of dance floor and Cavuto wouldn't let him spin his way through the answer - which is how an interview should be. When he got cornered, he did the only thing he could do instinctively.
But the point is - How is all of this spending going to sustain real, long-term jobs? How?
The next person to realistically address that question will be the first.
Unlike the soft interviews this unio thug gets on MSNBC, Neil wanted to answer the question.
I would someone to answer it as as well. After ONE TRILLION DOLLARS why should we spend more on a program that has failed?
Obama has LOST about 4 million jobs. The liberal media keeps repeating the lie that Obama has "saved" 2 million jobs
What the hell is a saved job anyway?
To answer your question - it will not
The only way to encourage economic growth is to cut taxes across the board, repeal Obamacare, and make huge cuts in government spending. Put the money in the hands of the consumer and business, and the private sector will grow the economy
Sweetchuck
06-26-2010, 08:16 AM
Unlike the soft interviews this unio thug gets on MSNBC, Neil wanted to answer the question.
I would someone to answer it as as well. After ONE TRILLION DOLLARS why should we spend more on a program that has failed?
Obama has LOST about 4 million jobs. The liberal media keeps repeating the lie that Obama has "saved" 2 million jobs
What the hell is a saved job anyway?
To answer your question - it will not
The only way to encourage economic growth is to cut taxes across the board, repeal Obamacare, and make huge cuts in government spending. Put the money in the hands of the consumer and business, and the private sector will grow the economy
Saved Job: 1. A mythical measure of economic growth that is reported as a positive outcome but is actually a hypothetical measure of jobs that were not lost due to the implementation of a liberal spending program. Created by liberals, it is fundamentally baseless, purely speculative however it is highly touted as a firm and exact measure of a programs success. 2. A load of fucking bullshit.
red states rule
06-26-2010, 08:20 AM
Saved Job: 1. A mythical measure of economic growth that is reported as a positive outcome but is actually a hypothetical measure of jobs that were not lost due to the implementation of a liberal spending program. Created by liberals, it is fundamentally baseless, purely speculative however it is highly touted as a firm and exact measure of a programs success. 2. A load of fucking bullshit.
Translation - It keep Obama'a ass out of the fire with the fools that still buy his daily BS so they can spread the myth of his shitload of economic experience
DragonStryk72
06-26-2010, 08:55 AM
The bigger problem though is that they actually believe this bullshit. That's the really big problem is that they are actually convinced that this time it's going to work.
They would have been better off by far just cutting out as many taxes as possible to let people hold on to more of their paychecks, and simply cutting the fat out of the government. Oddly enough, this could have been done by crushing several Bush-initiated programs such as NCLB, Patriot Act, and others that were horrible ideas. They would even be applauded for it, both by liberals for actually doing something, and conservatives, for acting in a fiscally conservative manner.
red states rule
06-26-2010, 08:58 AM
The bigger problem though is that they actually believe this bullshit. That's the really big problem is that they are actually convinced that this time it's going to work.
They would have been better off by far just cutting out as many taxes as possible to let people who on to more of their paychecks, and simply cutting the fat out of the government. Oddly enough, this could have been done by crushing several Bush-initiated programs such as NCLB, Patriot Act, and others that were horrible ideas. They would even be applauded for it, both by liberals for actually doing something, and conservatives, for acting in a fiscally conservative manner.
That is NOT what they want. This bunch of liberals are out for POWER and CONTROL
They want to GROW government and not the private sctor. They want to control and regulate as many aspects of our lives as possible with more programs like Obamacare
Look at the pork in the stimukus bill, and the many "jobs" bills that have passed. The pork BS in Obamacare. When this is a bust and people are still loing their jobs, the normal reaction of a liberal is to DEMAND more of our money to throw at the problem, and get MORE people dependent on a governmnt check
Nothing new here - this has been going on since FDR
Gaffer
06-26-2010, 09:05 AM
It's a big fire, we need to throw more gasoline on it.
Insein
06-26-2010, 08:45 PM
am i the only one that sees that Neal never let the guy finish a sentence, and insulted the guy first
granted that was no excuse for cursing
common, lets not drink the Kool aid either :laugh2:
I agree. Neil wasn't very professional in the interview. Saying he went to clown college or whatever is weak. The guy still was evading questions.
DragonStryk72
06-26-2010, 08:47 PM
I agree. Neil wasn't very professional in the interview. Saying he went to clown college or whatever is weak. The guy still was evading questions.
He was pushing the guy's buttons for sure, but... he did know he was on Fox News going after a liberal spending increase, right? I mean, he should have he was going to be getting hosed from the invite onward.
DragonStryk72
06-26-2010, 08:53 PM
That is NOT what they want. This bunch of liberals are out for POWER and CONTROL
They want to GROW government and not the private sctor. They want to control and regulate as many aspects of our lives as possible with more programs like Obamacare
Look at the pork in the stimukus bill, and the many "jobs" bills that have passed. The pork BS in Obamacare. When this is a bust and people are still loing their jobs, the normal reaction of a liberal is to DEMAND more of our money to throw at the problem, and get MORE people dependent on a governmnt check
Nothing new here - this has been going on since FDR
Oh no, Hoover, he was the genius that got them rolling. He was the president during the stock market crash, and put in the policies that lengthened out the Depression
Right, you attribute their attitude to a want to get everyone on government assistance, but I think you're being optimistic. They actually really believe that, despite all the towering evidence against them that if they just got a bit more money, they could fix the whole thing, like they're playing monopoly and making deals so they unmortgage their properties, not willing to accept the idea that they would do better to save the money, and focus their efforts on more long term solutions.
Actually, if their plan was get everyone on government assistance, it would show that they can accomplish their goals, but again, that's the optimistic look at their "strategy".
actsnoblemartin
06-27-2010, 03:14 PM
thats true, he did fail to answer the question
Look closely Martin. He starts cut him of when the guy goes on a tangent away from what the subject is about. He was starting to spin and Neal was stopping him.
red states rule
06-28-2010, 04:31 AM
Oh no, Hoover, he was the genius that got them rolling. He was the president during the stock market crash, and put in the policies that lengthened out the Depression
Right, you attribute their attitude to a want to get everyone on government assistance, but I think you're being optimistic. They actually really believe that, despite all the towering evidence against them that if they just got a bit more money, they could fix the whole thing, like they're playing monopoly and making deals so they unmortgage their properties, not willing to accept the idea that they would do better to save the money, and focus their efforts on more long term solutions.
Actually, if their plan was get everyone on government assistance, it would show that they can accomplish their goals, but again, that's the optimistic look at their "strategy".
Bottom line is, trillions have been spent to "create jobs and stimulate the economy"
Fact is most of the money was pork and had done little to create private sector jobs
The union thug is still pushing the White House lies dispite the fact more and more people are losing their jobs
Obama is the modern version of FDR. Record spending, bigger government, and making more people dependent on government
Kathianne
06-28-2010, 04:56 AM
Truth of the matter are the unions are losing jobs and influence under Obama, with the one glaring example of SEIU. With the exception noted, unions have not fared well in policies, taxes, etc. No stimulus money has helped with any permanent jobs, just make-shift temporary ones. Union members are losing more jobs than other workers, again with that one outstanding exception. Even the teacher's unions, the modern version of a union vote machine, has not fared well under this administration.
Now union leaders, used to hobnobing with politicians seem to be the last to realize that, after all they too want power. They've lost it and don't seem to recognize it.
Ever notice how many signs from AFL-CIO union folks are at tea parties, in favor of 'change'? Note how many purple shirted thugs of the SEIU are protesting said rallies?
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