Poll After Poll...

[Kathianne]

Looks like a rout is on its way. There are lessons here though for anyone elected:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/06/midterm.poll/


CNN Poll: GOP's midterm advantage is growing

By the CNN Wire Staff
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
*Republicans are gaining the upper hand as midterm elections approach
*Independent voters are increasingly prepared to vote for a GOP
candidate
*Republicans and Democrats are equally unpopular

(CNN) -- With November's midterm elections less than two months away, a new national poll indicates that the Republicans' advantage over the Democrats in the battle for Congress is on the rise.

According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Monday, the GOP leads the Democrats by 7 points on the "generic ballot" question, 52 percent to 45 percent. That 7-point advantage is up from a 3-point margin last month.

The generic ballot question asks respondents if they would vote for a Democrat or Republican in their congressional district, without naming any specific candidates.

"The survey indicates that independents and voters who dislike both parties are starting to break toward the GOP," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "In a year when anger at incumbents is a dominant political force, the key to the election lies among those who aren't rooting for either side."

According to the poll, the two parties are equally unpopular. Forty-nine percent of all Americans have an unfavorable view of the Democrats, with the same percentage feeling the same way about the Republicans. Just over one in five questioned dislike both parties.

Back in April, Americans who dislike both parties appeared to mildly favor the GOP on the generic ballot, by a 43-to-39 percent margin, with a large number saying at the time that they would pick a minor-party candidate or stay at home.

"Now, a lot of those voters appear to be bolting to the GOP," Holland said. "Republicans now have a whopping 38-point advantage on the generic ballot among voters who dislike both parties."

Republicans also have a large and growing advantage among independents. Sixty-two percent of independents questioned say they would vote for the generic Republican in their district, with three in 10 saying they'd cast a ballot for the generic Democrat. That 32-point margin for the Republicans among independents is up from an 8-point advantage last month...

[Gaffer]

The republicans may not be liked but they are offering more conservative candidates. And it's becoming increasingly apparent that dems are worthless.

[Palin Rider]

Voters who dislike both parties always dislike the one in power more.

I just can't help remembering 2004, when the pubbles were all saying of John Kerry that "you can't beat somebody with nobody." Apparently they now expect to beat something with nothing. We'll see.

[Solar]

Voters who dislike both parties always dislike the one in power more.

I just can't help remembering 2004, when the pubbles were all saying of John Kerry that "you can't beat somebody with nobody." Apparently they now expect to beat something with nothing. We'll see.

:poke: Hello...Is anyone in there?

There is no comparison between then and now, this is the first time Dims have shown just how socialist they are, and the Country wants no part of it.

I coined the term a longtime ago "Mid-term Massacre" and it is looking far worse now than it did then.

When was the last time you heard a Dim praise socialized medicine?
April if I'm not mistaken, but not only are they running from their mistakes, they are running away from Husein' policies as well.

[REDWHITEBLUE2]

I hate to sound pessimistic but until I see for sure Nov 2 we got some control back I'M not gonna get happy feet. I don't trust any poll or media outlet

[Palin Rider]

:poke: Hello...Is anyone in there?

There is no comparison between then and now, this is the first time Dims have shown just how socialist they are, and the Country wants no part of it.

I coined the term a longtime ago "Mid-term Massacre" and it is looking far worse now than it did then.

When was the last time you heard a Dim praise socialized medicine?
April if I'm not mistaken, but not only are they running from their mistakes, they are running away from Husein' policies as well.

Sounds like the air you're breathing up there is extremely thin.

Can you show me an interview of anyone besides a Pubble lap dog saying that Democrats are too "socialist?" Oh, right: not on the MSM, because they're conspiring against you. :tinfoil:

Not that I love the dems, and neither does most of the rest of the country, I expect. But that was in fact the same situation in 04, just with the party names reversed.

[darin]

Polls have one problem.

Polls don't account for voting fraud - which is the Democrats largest support group.

[Solar]

Sounds like the air you're breathing up there is extremely thin.

Can you show me an interview of anyone besides a Pubble lap dog saying that Democrats are too "socialist?" Oh, right: not on the MSM, because they're conspiring against you. :tinfoil:

Not that I love the dems, and neither does most of the rest of the country, I expect. But that was in fact the same situation in 04, just with the party names reversed.

AHEMMM....
And this was back in July...

55 Percent of Likely Voters Find ‘Socialist’ an Accurate Label of Obama?
July 9, 2010 9:13 A.M.
By Jim Geraghty

Tags: 2010, Barack Obama

The latest poll by Democracy Corps, the firm of James Carville and Stan Greenberg, has Republicans leading on the generic ballot among likely voters, 48 percent to 42 percent.

Deep in the poll, they ask, “Now, I am going to read you a list of words and phrases which people use to describe political figures. For each word or phrase, please tell me whether it describes Barack Obama very well, well, not too well, or not well at all.”

On “too liberal,” 35 percent of likely voters say it describes Obama “very well,” 21 percent say “well,” 21 percent say “not too well,” and 17 percent say “not well at all.” In other words, 56 percent of likely voters consider Obama too liberal.

When asked about “a socialist,” 33 percent of likely voters say it describes Obama “very well,” 22 percent say “well,” 15 percent say “not too well,” and 25 percent say “not well at all.”

In other words, 55 percent of likely voters think “socialist” is a reasonably accurate way of describing Obama.http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/230874/55-percent-likely-voters-find-socialist-accurate-label-obama

And yet another.

Al Sharpton: 'The American Public Overwhelmingly Voted for Socialism When They Elected President Obama'

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2010/03/22/al-sharpton-american-public-overwhelmingly-socialism-when-they-elected-pr#ixzz0yqvTWBzH

[namvet]

Sounds like the air you're breathing up there is extremely thin.

Can you show me an interview of anyone besides a Pubble lap dog saying that Democrats are too "socialist?" Oh, right: not on the MSM, because they're conspiring against you. :tinfoil:

Not that I love the dems, and neither does most of the rest of the country, I expect. But that was in fact the same situation in 04, just with the party names reversed.

Kerry ran on his war record. he was an idiot

[Palin Rider]

AHEMMM....
And this was back in July...

55 Percent of Likely Voters Find ‘Socialist’ an Accurate Label of Obama?
July 9, 2010 9:13 A.M.
By Jim Geraghty

Tags: 2010, Barack Obama

The latest poll by Democracy Corps, the firm of James Carville and Stan Greenberg, has Republicans leading on the generic ballot among likely voters, 48 percent to 42 percent.

Deep in the poll, they ask, “Now, I am going to read you a list of words and phrases which people use to describe political figures. For each word or phrase, please tell me whether it describes Barack Obama very well, well, not too well, or not well at all.”

When asked about “a socialist,” 33 percent of likely voters say it describes Obama “very well,” 22 percent say “well,” 15 percent say “not too well,” and 25 percent say “not well at all.”
I wonder how many of these voters could accurately tell you what a socialist believes in, if you were to ask them without any prompting.

Apart from which, National Review has always been an unabashedly right-wing rag: hardly mainstream media.

And when was the last time you took Sharpton seriously? :laugh:

[darin]

'main stream' doesn't make anything right - there are A LOT of popular foolish people/ideas/publications - see: President Obama/the Snuggie/Time magazine.

[Palin Rider]

'main stream' doesn't make anything right - there are A LOT of popular foolish people/ideas/publications - see: President Obama/the Snuggie/Time magazine.

Not relevant to my original question to Solar. Sorry, Charlie.

[SassyLady]

I wonder how many of these voters could accurately tell you what a socialist believes in, if you were to ask them without any prompting.

Apparently they think a socialist believes in doing all the things that Obama is currently pushing. Governmental or state ownership of industries or a majority of the capital is socialism. I guess owning financial institutions and a majority of the auto industry is not socialistic in your world.




Apart from which, National Review has always been an unabashedly right-wing rag: hardly mainstream media.

So you deny facts unless they are published in a "left-wing rag"? Please, tell us what you would consider a "mainstream media" source.

[darin]

Not relevant to my original question to Solar. Sorry, Charlie.

it's absolutely relevant, as MSKP has explained. You're using the fallacy of poisoning the well.

Whether or not the mag has a right-leaning position is irrelevant to the claims it makes being factual or not.

[Kathianne]

I wonder how many of these voters could accurately tell you what a socialist believes in, if you were to ask them without any prompting.

Apart from which, National Review has always been an unabashedly right-wing rag: hardly mainstream media.

And when was the last time you took Sharpton seriously? :laugh:

Have to agree with the others, it was not irrelevant':


The latest poll by Democracy Corps, the firm of James Carville and Stan Greenberg, has Republicans leading on the generic ballot among likely voters, 48 percent to 42 percent.

Deep in the poll, they ask, “Now, I am going to read you a list of words and phrases which people use to describe political figures. For each word or phrase, please tell me whether it describes Barack Obama very well, well, not too well, or not well at all.”

When asked about “a socialist,” 33 percent of likely voters say it describes Obama “very well,” 22 percent say “well,” 15 percent say “not too well,” and 25 percent say “not well at all.”

While National Review may have gleefully reported, the polling was from a left leaning firm.

[Palin Rider]

Have to agree with the others, it was not irrelevant':



While National Review may have gleefully reported, the polling was from a left leaning firm.

There's still a fundamental problem with how the poll's questions were asked.

As an analogy, think about trying to find a lost dog, and asking the neighborhood children if they've seen it. If you ask them, "Did the dog you saw have a tail that curled over its back?" you can bet they'll say, "Yeah! Sure!" But if you want them to describe the dog's tail without any prompting, how many of them are going to say that the tail curled over the dog's back?

[SassyLady]

There's still a fundamental problem with how the poll's questions were asked.

As an analogy, think about trying to find a lost dog, and asking the neighborhood children if they've seen it. If you ask them, "Did the dog you saw have a tail that curled over its back?" you can bet they'll say, "Yeah! Sure!" But if you want them to describe the dog's tail without any prompting, how many of them are going to say that the tail curled over the dog's back?

Awww....come on PR .... now you realllllllllyyy are grasping at straws. :laugh:

So, let me ask you point blank ..... do you think Obama is a socialist? Forget all the people in the polls....doesn't matter what they think .... we all want to know what you think.

[Palin Rider]

So, let me ask you point blank ..... do you think Obama is a socialist? Forget all the people in the polls....doesn't matter what they think .... we all want to know what you think.

All of you? Gosh, I'm flattered. :clap:

I strongly disagree with the idea held by so many - including you and most of the rest of the DP membership - that being a socialist is somehow an either-or proposition. Instead, I think it's a question of degree.

IMO, socialism is analogous to calcium. Too much of it is lethal, but a society can't survive without any.

So, is Obama MORE socialist than most of the DP membership? Almost certainly.
Is he MORE socialist than I am? Probably.
Is he MORE socialist than, for example, the typical left-leaning Norwegian politician? Absolutely not.

That's what I think. Socialism isn't something you can deal with in absolutes.

[SassyLady]

All of you? Gosh, I'm flattered. :clap: Yep, been cogitating on this for awhile....you, riding in here on Palin's coattails (ooops, I mean back).....got us to thinking about you and your ideology (Palin fan or hater)....quite a conundrum...and if this flatters you then you are too easy. :coffee:




I strongly disagree with the idea held by so many - including you and most of the rest of the DP membership - that being a socialist is somehow an either-or proposition. Instead, I think it's a question of degree.

IMO, socialism is analogous to calcium. Too much of it is lethal, but a society can't survive without any.

So, is Obama MORE socialist than most of the DP membership? Almost certainly.
Is he MORE socialist than I am? Probably.
Is he MORE socialist than, for example, the typical left-leaning Norwegian politician? Absolutely not.

That's what I think. Socialism isn't something you can deal with in absolutes.

Apparently their is quite a few people (according to the polls) that believe Obama is MORE socialist than they are comfortable with. He is MORE socialist that I am comfortable with.

I still do not understand why people want to redefine America to the European standard. We fought to get away from that type of system.

[Palin Rider]

Apparently their is quite a few people (according to the polls) that believe Obama is MORE socialist than they are comfortable with. He is MORE socialist that I am comfortable with.
I wonder if the numbers would have changed had the question been worded in this way. But fair enough, on your opinion.


I still do not understand why people want to redefine America to the European standard. We fought to get away from that type of system.We fought for religious freedom and representation when we paid taxes. Did we go too far towards the other end of the spectrum? I honestly don't know.

[Gaffer]

There are no degrees of socialism, there are only steps in socialism leading to communism. No free society needs socialism. When something is needed the society takes care of it. A nanny state is not needed to do that. The dark lord is a socialist, pure and simple. He is doing all he can to make this into a socialist society like europe. The next step will be communism.

[Palin Rider]

There are no degrees of socialism, there are only steps in socialism leading to communism. No free society needs socialism. When something is needed the society takes care of it. A nanny state is not needed to do that. The dark lord is a socialist, pure and simple. He is doing all he can to make this into a socialist society like europe. The next step will be communism.

You are categorically wrong. And willfully ignorant. End of story.

[BoogyMan]

So those who rightly point out the semblances between Obama's rhetoric and the works of socialists of the past, points out the socialistic ideals of those with whom Obama has surrounded himself, and doesn't buy into Obama's explanation is just stupid?

This is a typical left wing claim. Those who dare to disagree are simply too stupid to understand their own thoughts.

For one who claims the yellow puddle standing territory of the rudderless middle of the road you certainly seem to prefer the left lane.


I wonder how many of these voters could accurately tell you what a socialist believes in, if you were to ask them without any prompting.

Apart from which, National Review has always been an unabashedly right-wing rag: hardly mainstream media.

And when was the last time you took Sharpton seriously? :laugh:

[Palin Rider]

So those who rightly point out the semblances between Obama's rhetoric and the works of socialists of the past, points out the socialistic ideals of those with whom Obama has surrounded himself, and doesn't buy into Obama's explanation is just stupid?

This is a typical left wing claim. Those who dare to disagree are simply too stupid to understand their own thoughts.

For one who claims the yellow puddle standing territory of the rudderless middle of the road you certainly seem to prefer the left lane.

Where do come up with all this nonsense? None of this was stated or implied in any of my earlier posts.

[Gaffer]

You are categorically wrong. And willfully ignorant. End of story.

I am categorically right. You are willfully ignorant, as always. Does "end of story" mean your not going to post any more?

[Palin Rider]

I am categorically right. You are willfully ignorant, as always. Does "end of story" mean your not going to post any more?

Not much point in posting in response to someone who's more stubborn than 20 jackasses.

[BoogyMan]

The whole line of mental refuse about "how many would actually know what a socialist is" fueled that comment........and it was right.


Where do come up with all this nonsense? None of this was stated or implied in any of my earlier posts.

[Palin Rider]

The whole line of mental refuse about "how many would actually know what a socialist is" fueled that comment........and it was right.

Do you honestly believe that you can approach some random Joe on the street and that he can define what a "socialist" is? I wasn't being condescending with that remark. It's just another reflection on how broken our educational system is.

[BoogyMan]

For the most part people are not the morons that the enablers of Mr. Obama's modern slide toward socialism type policies would have us to believe that they are.


Do you honestly believe that you can approach some random Joe on the street and that he can define what a "socialist" is? I wasn't being condescending with that remark. It's just another reflection on how broken our educational system is.

[SassyLady]

For the most part people are not the morons that the enablers of Mr. Obama's modern slide toward socialism type policies would have us to believe that they are.

Sorry, BoogyMan - I have to disagree ... without those morons, how did Obama get elected?

[BoogyMan]

Sorry, BoogyMan - I have to disagree ... without those morons, how did Obama get elected?

Different group of morons though Mrs. Those would be the morons who actually DON'T know what a socialist is. :)

[SassyLady]

Different group of morons though Mrs. Those would be the morons who actually DON'T know what a socialist is. :)

Well, you are right again!!! :clap:

[Gaffer]

Sorry, BoogyMan - I have to disagree ... without those morons, how did Obama get elected?

I think these days there are fewer morons. Buyers remorse has kicked in and a lot of people are actually starting to take notice of politics. Public education has made them what they are. You are right tho, it was morons that put him in there.

[Palin Rider]

For the most part people are not the morons that the enablers of Mr. Obama's modern slide toward socialism type policies would have us to believe that they are.

Being undereducated certainly doesn't make one a moron.

[SassyLady]

Being undereducated certainly doesn't make one a moron.

Being undereducated often leads one to make moronic choices in life.

[red states rule]

It is clear the voters are opposed to most of Obama's agenda. I see poll after poll showing the voters want Obamacare repealed, they do not like the spending and the growing deficit, they do NOT want tax increases, they want off shore oil drilling, and they are fed up with being ignored and tagged racist if they speak out.

Dems had their chance and it is clear they blew it

Now Obama stands for tax increases on those who remain productive in the economy and it is another issue where the voters will see a clear difference when they cast their vote

[Solar]

I wonder how many of these voters could accurately tell you what a socialist believes in, if you were to ask them without any prompting.

Apart from which, National Review has always been an unabashedly right-wing rag: hardly mainstream media.

And when was the last time you took Sharpton seriously? :laugh:

Feigning ignorance is not a good debate tactic, or were you serious?

[Palin Rider]

Feigning ignorance is not a good debate tactic, or were you serious?

The question had to do with how many mainstream sources you have seen (FOX doesn't count) reporting that a large number of people believe that Mr. Obama is a socialist.

Please answer that question. Have you seen any?

FTR, I'm not aware of any, but of course I'm not omnisicient. So feel free to enlighten me if you discover anything.

[darin]

Dude - you are the MOST illogical person I've seen here in awhile - not counting the blatant flamers.

How the hell is FOX not 'mainstream'? It's THE most mainstream. All other cable news organizations pale in comparison.

[Gaffer]

The question had to do with how many mainstream sources you have seen (FOX doesn't count) reporting that a large number of people believe that Mr. Obama is a socialist.

Please answer that question. Have you seen any?

FTR, I'm not aware of any, but of course I'm not omnisicient. So feel free to enlighten me if you discover anything.

How many mainstream sources have anything bad to say about his administration period?

[red states rule]

Feigning ignorance is not a good debate tactic, or were you serious?

He is a master at that tactic

[Kathianne]

The question had to do with how many mainstream sources you have seen (FOX doesn't count) reporting that a large number of people believe that Mr. Obama is a socialist.

Please answer that question. Have you seen any?

FTR, I'm not aware of any, but of course I'm not omnisicient. So feel free to enlighten me if you discover anything.

While the poll was done in early-mid July, still finding it in Washington Post, Business Week, etc:

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=democracy%20corps%20poll%20socialist%20obama&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wn

The poll was done by the firm headed up by James Carville, Democracy Corps., certainly not one of the right's talking heads.

[Solar]

The question had to do with how many mainstream sources you have seen (FOX doesn't count) reporting that a large number of people believe that Mr. Obama is a socialist.

Please answer that question. Have you seen any?

FTR, I'm not aware of any, but of course I'm not omnisicient. So feel free to enlighten me if you discover anything.

And to think, you aren't faking ignorance...:poke:

How about the simple fact that he is an actual socialist, would that be evidence enough?


A review of the New Party establishes that not only was the party an amalgamation of far left groups, but Barack Obama knew that when he sought the party’s endorsement.

Most of the New Party’s history has been lost in the digital age. It was established in 1992 and started to die out in 1998, well before Google and the modern web were established. But through lengthy searches of the Nexis archive and microfilm at the local university library, I’ve been able to piece this together.

The New Party was established in 1992 “by union activist Sandy Pope and University of Wisconsin professor Joel Rogers,” USA Today reported on November 16, 1992. The paper wrote that the new party was “self-described [as] ‘socialist democratic.’”

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913


He is a master at that tactic

:beer:

I'm new, I thought it was just another lib tactic....:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Palin Rider]

And to think, you aren't faking ignorance...:poke:

That's correct, I'm not. When I don't know the answer to a question, I admit it. (Do you?)


How about the simple fact that he is an actual socialist, would that be evidence enough?

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913

That isn't even what the article says. It says he sought an endorsement from an organization that described itself as socialist. :poke:


I'm new, I thought it was just another lib tactic..
Two children on this site (RSR & G) are more than enough: don't become the third.

[Solar]

That's correct, I'm not. When I don't know the answer to a question, I admit it. (Do you?)

You will find I seldom make any mistakes, but if I ever do, I will happily admit it, but haven't had to yet.
The only time I make a mistake, is when I read a post wrong due to severe dyslexia.


That isn't even what the article says. It says he sought an endorsement from an organization that described itself as socialist. :poke:
Read carefully, he is a socialist/Marxist!

Democratic candidate Barack Obama was a member of the socialist New Party during the 1990s, according to new evidence unearthed by web bloggers, receiving the party’s endorsement for his state Senate run in 1996. Reports earlier this summer that Obama was associated with the New Party were vigorously denied by the Obama campaign and the New Party, but researchers examining Internet archives have found New Party documents clearly indicating Obama was a member of the party, received its endorsement, encouraged Party members to work with him in the Illinois statehouse, and signed a contract agreeing to maintain a relationship with the Marxist-led party during his senate term.
http://www.bloggernews.net/118096

[Dante]

People are now fed up with the Democrats like they are with the Republicans.

wow!

not really.

more like snore.

Looks like a rout is on its way. There are lessons here though for anyone elected:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/06/midterm.poll/

[Solar]

People are now fed up with the Democrats like they are with the Republicans.

wow!

not really.

more like snore.

Care to elaborate....

[Indy]

Do you honestly believe that you can approach some random Joe on the street and that he can define what a "socialist" is? I wasn't being condescending with that remark. It's just another reflection on how broken our educational system is.

If that average Joe is a young liberal democrat, I highly doubt they know what day it is. The older conservative isn't necessarily smarter, just better informed on the issues. Having researched Obama to the point of nausea, I'd say Obama's left of Hillery and slightly right of Marx. If we were allowed a look at his scholastic records, his opinion pieces in the Review, or even his thesis, I'm sure it would solidify that fact. Having spent the better part of his youth at the knee of Uncle Frank, I highly doubt he's a Reaganite.

[Palin Rider]

Read carefully, he is a socialist/Marxist!

Democratic candidate Barack Obama was a member of the socialist New Party during the 1990s, according to new evidence unearthed by web bloggers, receiving the party’s endorsement for his state Senate run in 1996. Reports earlier this summer that Obama was associated with the New Party were vigorously denied by the Obama campaign and the New Party, but researchers examining Internet archives have found New Party documents clearly indicating Obama was a member of the party, received its endorsement, encouraged Party members to work with him in the Illinois statehouse, and signed a contract agreeing to maintain a relationship with the Marxist-led party during his senate term.
http://www.bloggernews.net/118096

Nope. At most (if the above is even true) he WAS a socialist, assuming the New Party ever identified itself as such. And that was just an "official" label anyhow.

Look how many people complain about Republicans "in name only."

[red states rule]

People are now fed up with the Democrats like they are with the Republicans.

wow!

not really.

more like snore.

I will wait and see if you are still around on November 3 to spin the Dems massive losses

Will you admit the Dems blew it or post how the election was the biggest robbery since the Brinks' job?

[Solar]

How do you delete posts when you screw up?

[Solar]

Nope. At most (if the above is even true) he WAS a socialist, assuming the New Party ever identified itself as such. And that was just an "official" label anyhow.

Look how many people complain about Republicans "in name only."

I just slapped the shit out of you with facts, and that's all you've got, is RINO?:lame2:

[Dante]

I will wait and see if you are still around on November 3 to spin the Dems massive losses

Will you admit the Dems blew it or post how the election was the biggest robbery since the Brinks' job?

The Democrats will lose big. So what? That is not a vote of confidence in the GOP. The negatives are there.

You are so used to spin you cannot follow a reasoned argument.

what a waste of space.

[Palin Rider]

I just slapped the shit out of you with facts, and that's all you've got, is RINO?:lame2:

:lol: You call the use of an obvious wingnut blog mentioning mysterious "Internet research" an instrument of FACTS?

If you actually believe that, I truly feel sorry for you.

[Solar]

:lol: You call the use of an obvious wingnut blog mentioning mysterious "Internet research" an instrument of FACTS?

If you actually believe that, I truly feel sorry for you.

I done wasting my time on you.

[Palin Rider]

I done wasting my time on you.

Thank God.

[red states rule]

The Democrats will lose big. So what? That is not a vote of confidence in the GOP. The negatives are there.

You are so used to spin you cannot follow a reasoned argument.

what a waste of space.

Funny, 2 years ago libs were gleefully telling us how America was now a progressive nation, the voters moved to the left, the Republican party was dead, and the era of Reagan conservatism was over.

Now their pending defeat is no big deal and not worth talking about

[SassyLady]

Funny, 2 years ago libs were gleefully telling us how America was now a progressive nation, the voters moved to the left, the Republican party was dead, and the era of Reagan conservatism was over.

Now their pending defeat is no big deal and not worth talking about

I guess it's hard to discuss one's own demise.

[red states rule]

I guess it's hard to discuss one's own demise.

The excuses will be coming in fast after the votes are counted

Some key races were stolen, Fox news and talk radio drowned out the Dems message, the voters were uninformed and did not understand the complex issues, Obama and Dems just needed more time in show progress was being made, the Republicans blocked all of the needed bills that would have fixed the economy, not enough money was spent - again thanks to the Republicans, and last but not least - America has become a racist country once again

Did I miss anything?

[SassyLady]

The excuses will be coming in fast after the votes are counted

Some key races were stolen, Fox news and talk radio drowned out the Dems message, the voters were uninformed and did not understand the complex issues, Obama and Dems just needed more time in show progress was being made, the Republicans blocked all of the needed bills that would have fixed the economy, not enough money was spent - again thanks to the Republicans, and last but not least - America has become a racist country once again

Did I miss anything?

For some reason I'm having a strong feeling of deja'vue...you and I have had this discussion before .... man, I am tired so I better head off to bed. Talk to you guys tomorrow!

[red states rule]

For some reason I'm having a strong feeling of deja'vue...you and I have had this discussion before .... man, I am tired so I better head off to bed. Talk to you guys tomorrow!

You have been thru alot recently. Take care and get your much needed rest

My prayers are with you and your family

[KarlMarx]

Arguing with some of the libs is like pissing in the wind... it's not that they don't get it (implying that they want to),it's that they simply WON'T get it.

Here's what I mean. There are two guys that sit at the end of my row. I like both of them, but they are hard core libs.

Someone passed around an email about Obama and the economy.. and right away one of them replies "this looks like something from someone who only watches Fox News"... and, of course, the two of them start talking to each other about just how bad Bush was... it was a 20 minute tag team tirade...

Now.... this scene is taking place at a defense contractor's facility. We have had over 1,000 layoffs since Obama took office, things are not looking very good, and seem to be getting worse as time goes on.

You'd think these two would see a connection... Obama is President, hence, head of the armed forces, Obama is cutting defense, the defense contractors respond by cutting the work force....

You'd think that... but they WON'T see the connection.

If I am around for better times (which seems to be less and less likely as time goes on).. I'll wager that these two will be blaming the Republicans in COngress and in the White House for whatever the problem of the day is...

With libs, their way of thinking is not logic ... it's a religion... and the rest of us are pagans that need to be converted.

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Arguing with some of the libs is like pissing in the wind... it's not that they don't get it (implying that they want to),it's that they simply WON'T get it.

Here's what I mean. There are two guys that sit at the end of my row. I like both of them, but they are hard core libs.

Someone passed around an email about Obama and the economy.. and right away one of them replies "this looks like something from someone who only watches Fox News"... and, of course, the two of them start talking to each other about just how bad Bush was... it was a 20 minute tag team tirade...

Now.... this scene is taking place at a defense contractor's facility. We have had over 1,000 layoffs since Obama took office, things are not looking very good, and seem to be getting worse as time goes on.

You'd think these two would see a connection... Obama is President, hence, head of the armed forces, Obama is cutting defense, the defense contractors respond by cutting the work force....

You'd think that... but they WON'T see the connection.

If I am around for better times (which seems to be less and less likely as time goes on).. I'll wager that these two will be blaming the Republicans in COngress and in the White House for whatever the problem of the day is...

With libs, their way of thinking is not logic ... it's a religion... and the rest of us are pagans that need to be converted.

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