Obama Stands For Freedom For Muslime But Not For Americans

[red states rule]

Ok, so the Ground Zero mosque is all about religious freedom for Muslims. Obama points his finger at Americans and tells us how we need to be tolerant

But then freedom of speech for an American is another matter. He sends the Secretary of Defense Hillary Clinton after a US citizen

and his PR staff in the liberal media also go into attack mode

[namvet]

here's my tolerance to ragheads


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[red states rule]

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[namvet]

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save America burn a Mosque

[red states rule]

save America burn a Mosque

I would not go that far

But I would not object to selling Jimmy Dean sausage sandwiches outside of every mosque

[Pagan]

I would not go that far

But I would not object to selling Jimmy Dean sausage sandwiches outside of every mosque

Amazing how easily there are those who are so willing to wipe their collective ass's with the Constitution.

[red states rule]

Amazing how easily there are those who are so willing to wipe their collective ass's with the Constitution.

Obama and liberals use the US Constitution as toilet paper. They see the Constitution as a roadblock to impose their liberalism on America

[Pagan]

Obama and liberals use the US Constitution as toilet paper. They see the Constitution as a roadblock to impose their liberalism on America

Yep and so did the Liberal 'Dubya and all of his Progressive Liberal NeoCon minions, Obama is only expanding the Bush Doctrine.

Reality, the Constitution has been functionally dead for years and it's the peoples fault for letting it happen.

[namvet]

I would not go that far

But I would not object to selling Jimmy Dean sausage sandwiches outside of every mosque

I would. after all whats inside a mosque??? pigs in a blanket

[red states rule]

Yep and so did the Liberal 'Dubya and all of his Progressive Liberal NeoCon minions, Obama is only expanding the Bush Doctrine.

Reality, the Constitution has been functionally dead for years and it's the peoples fault for letting it happen.

Yea, libs were "upset" with Bush's polcies and spending

Now they are silent as Obama does the same things and on a greater scale

Where are all those screaming libs about the wiretaps, the Patriot Act, the anti war nuts? They have vanished

So spare me that crap please. Libs were opposed to Bush's polcies onyl because Bush supoorted them

[red states rule]

I would. after all whats inside a mosque??? pigs in a blanket

and don't forget the beer on tap next to the sausage vender

[red states rule]

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[Gaffer]

The constitution gives freedom of religion. If a religion is designed to replace the Constitution through usurpation is it wrong to denounce and condemn that religion?

Islam is a political, socialist ideology that hides behind the guise of religion. It does not deserve Constitutional protection.

[Pagan]

Yea, libs were "upset" with Bush's polcies and spending

Now they are silent as Obama does the same things and on a greater scale

Where are all those screaming libs about the wiretaps, the Patriot Act, the anti war nuts? They have vanished

So spare me that crap please. Libs were opposed to Bush's polcies onyl because Bush supoorted them

Spare what crap? :confused:
I just stated the reality of how the Progressive Liberals are both party's.

Yes I've been asking for a very long time of Obama supporters who screamed impeach Bush/Cheney, where the fuck are you?

The hypocrisy is disgusting on both sides who scream about the "Other" side but only to either make excuses or just ignore it when their own idiots do the same.

[red states rule]

The constitution gives freedom of religion. If a religion is designed to replace the Constitution through usurpation is it wrong to denounce and condemn that religion?

Islam is a political, socialist ideology that hides behind the guise of religion. It does not deserve Constitutional protection.

Obama is doing what most liberals (and some RINO's) are doing. They are pandering to Muslims.

It is like the US military goes to Mecca, kills 3500 muslims in cold blood - then 9 years later a US citizen DEMANDS to build a Church were the killings took place

[red states rule]

Spare what crap? :confused:
I just stated the reality of how the Progressive Liberals are both party's.

Yes I've been asking for a very long time of Obama supporters who screamed impeach Bush/Cheney, where the fuck are you?

The hypocrisy is disgusting on both sides who scream about the "Other" side but only to either make excuses or just ignore it when their own idiots do the same.

Unlike the libs I call Republicans out when they screw up. I was not happy with the spending under Bush or his pick of Myers for the USSC

We know see what the left is all about. POWER

Which is what I have said here on this board for years

Amercia now sees the differecnes between the left and the right. I hope CONSERVATIVES win big in November so we can udo the massive damage Obama and libs have inflicted on the nation

[Pagan]

The constitution gives freedom of religion. If a religion is designed to replace the Constitution through usurpation is it wrong to denounce and condemn that religion?

Islam is a political, socialist ideology that hides behind the guise of religion. It does not deserve Constitutional protection.

No it's not wrong to denounce what you feel is wrong, what is wrong and illegal is to outlaw it. The only way you can protect your natural right of freedoms is to protect the rights of those you oppose. Like the KKK, Aryan Nation, Nation of Islam, Westborough Baptist Church, Nazi Party, Skin Heads, etc. etc. They can spew out as much vile filth as they want and even though it churns my stomach I will defend their right to spew such vile filth. For I know that if to make the unpopular view illegal leads to Tyranny of an oppressive 1984/Big Brother State.

If they break the law you deal with them but to create "Thought Crime" only leads to strengthen the Police State.

[Pagan]

Unlike the libs I call Republicans out when they screw up. I was not happy with the spending under Bush or his pick of Myers for the USSC

We know see what the left is all about. POWER

Which is what I have said here on this board for years

Amercia now sees the differecnes between the left and the right. I hope CONSERVATIVES win big in November so we can udo the massive damage Obama and libs have inflicted on the nation

That also goes for both sides, look at the excuses that were made for 'Dubya's Progressive Liberal Big Government expansion doctrine and how the excuses are still repeated today.

Yes it's all about "Power" and it's not exclusive to the "Left", they both wipe their collective ass's with the Constitution with the goal of pushing their morals and beliefs on everyone.

The last real Conservative we had was Ronnie, as soon as he left office there has been a systematic and consistent machine bent on destroying his legacy.

As for Obama, he's armed with the power 'Dubya seized and is expanding those policies.

Remember the words of the Great One himself -

"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden."

[red states rule]

That also goes for both sides, look at the excuses that were made for 'Dubya's Progressive Liberal Big Government expansion doctrine and how the excuses are still repeated today.

Yes it's all about "Power" and it's not exclusive to the "Left", they both wipe their collective ass's with the Constitution with the goal of pushing their morals and beliefs on everyone.

The last real Conservative we had was Ronnie, as soon as he left office there has been a systematic and consistent machine bent on destroying his legacy.

As for Obama, he's armed with the power 'Dubya seized and is expanding those policies.

Remember the words of the Great One himself -

"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden."

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[red states rule]

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[Pagan]

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So Bush didn't create TARP?

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/12/19/Bush-to-loan-TARP-funds-to-automakers/UPI-53201229697415/

Bush to loan TARP funds to automakers
Published: Dec. 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM

Also are you saying that 'Dubya didn't in fiscal years starting September 30, 2002 and ending September 30, 2006 the national debt increased nearly 50%?

What happened to the "Balanced Budget Amendment" which was key for the Republicans during the Clinton reign?

I'd say you fail history ;)

[red states rule]

So Bush didn't create TARP?

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/12/19/Bush-to-loan-TARP-funds-to-automakers/UPI-53201229697415/

Bush to loan TARP funds to automakers
Published: Dec. 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM

Also are you saying that 'Dubya didn't in fiscal years starting September 30, 2002 and ending September 30, 2006 the national debt increased nearly 50%?

What happened to the "Balanced Budget Amendment" which was key for the Republicans during the Clinton reign?

I'd say you fail history ;)

and Dems added to it, and added to it, and added to it

Now we are told it is "normal" to have high deficits and high unemployment

After all lok at the results we have to show for trillions spent on "creating" jobs

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[Pagan]

and Dems added to it, and added to it, and added to it

Now we are told it is "normal" to have high deficits and high unemployment

After all lok at the results we have to show for trillions spent on "creating" jobs

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Yes and like I said in the post -

"As for Obama, he's armed with the power 'Dubya seized and is expanding those policies"

[red states rule]

Yes and like I said in the post -

"As for Obama, he's armed with the power 'Dubya seized and is expanding those policies"

Yea, under Bush the economy grew and millions of jobs were created in the private sector - yet with Obama about 4 million have been lost

and you say Obama is expanding the Bush polciies

I say you fail common sense son

[Pagan]

Yea, under Bush the economy grew and millions of jobs were created in the private sector - yet with Obama about 4 million have been lost

and you say Obama is expanding the Bush polciies

I say you fail common sense son

Really, so the crash didn't happen under 'Dubya's reign when the "Bubble" burst ...

Also you fail in regards to Bush's economy, try Googling "Jobless Recovery". Like for example - :slap:

http://www.forward.com/articles/7308/
Published December 19, 2003, issue of December 19, 2003.

Read more: http://www.forward.com/articles/7308/#ixzz0zF4W7IFj

Bush’s Jobless Economic Recovery: Workers Pay Price for Productivity

"Democrats emphasize that the economy has lost well over 2 million jobs since President Bush took office, more than under any president since Herbert Hoover. Democratic presidential candidates may be hoping that continued high unemployment will deprive the second George Bush of a second term in 2004 as it did to the first George Bush in 1992"



OK if you say so, me thinks you should stop drinking the koolaid and actually open your eyes. :lame2:

[red states rule]

Really, so the crash didn't happen under 'Dubya's reign when the "Bubble" burst ...

Also you fail in regards to Bush's economy, try Googling "Jobless Recovery". Like for example - :slap:

http://www.forward.com/articles/7308/
Published December 19, 2003, issue of December 19, 2003.

Read more: http://www.forward.com/articles/7308/#ixzz0zF4W7IFj




OK if you say so, me thinks you should stop drinking the koolaid and actually open your eyes. :lame2:

You make this way to easy son

Bush gained jobs in his first term despite the libs screaming a "jobless recovery"




Did the economy create jobs during President George W. Bush’s first term?

The answer is yes, no matter which employment survey is used to measure jobs. But a lingering controversy over which of the two Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) surveys is the better measure continues to cloud the issue. The survey of households, which contacts people directly, reports a net increase of 2.37 million employed Americans since President Bush was sworn in. The payroll survey shows a net gain of 119,000.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1354802/posts



You are the one drunk on the Kool Aide. Put down the glass and back away from the keyboard until you are able to keep up with the facts and strong doses of reality

[Pagan]

You make this way to easy son

Bush gained jobs in his first term despite the libs screaming a "jobless recovery"



You are the one drunk on the Kool Aide. Put down the glass and back away from the keyboard until you are able to keep up with the facts and strong doses of reality


You source "The Free Republic"? :laugh: :lame2:

What was it I stated earlier?



That also goes for both sides, look at the excuses that were made for 'Dubya's Progressive Liberal Big Government expansion doctrine and how the excuses are still repeated today.

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Yet another source -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/sep/06/useconomy.usnews

Bush rattled by signs of 'jobless recovery' in US
Saturday 6 September 2003 12.52 BST

"Payrolls fell by 93,000 last month, compared to a revised fall of 49,000 in July, with jobs lost in both the manufacturing and services sectors. However, the unemployment rate fell 0.1% to 6.1%."

Bush was a Big Government, Big Spending Progressive who expanded the debt by 50% and increased the size, scope and power of Government larger than any other President in History until Obama who has expanded it further.

Stop making excused for Liberals and if you're a Conservative how about supporting Conservativism eh?

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[Pagan]

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Really, sorry if I don't take those numbers seriously from another "Free Republic" site.

http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2009/01/19/daily7.html

President George W. Bush will leave office Tuesday with the worst employment-growth record of any president since World War II, according to a new analysis by Bizjournals.

The Wall Street Journal (what a "liberal rag eh? :lol: )
JANUARY 9, 2009, 12:04 PM ET

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

"President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a recession was starting, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long one. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office."

[red states rule]

So now the "source" is the problem?

Give it up kid, it is a fact Bush did GAIN jobs in his first term depsite the Dems best attempts to ensure he did not

But the liberal media no longer talks about a jobless recovery like they did during the Bush years

and YOU seem to have been sucked in along with the rest of lefties



The media have hammered President George W. Bush on the employment issue despite 13 straight months of positive job creation and other good economic news. The October 8, 2004 jobs report was the latest evidence that they treat Bush far more critically than they treated President Bill Clinton on the same issue – sometimes even for the same results. The data indicated that the economy added 96,000 new jobs in September and nearly a quarter million adjusted to the totals earlier in the year.

But media reports spun the new job numbers as a strong negative and stories either totally ignored the quarter-million job adjustment or buried it. This is not primarily a problem of economic interpretation. Instead, the media’s slanted coverage of employment reflects a political bias that colors their overall economic reporting.

News organizations gave Bush consistently negative press about perceived poor job creation and unemployment in the summer of 2004 but their reports were overwhelmingly positive when Clinton ran for reelection in the summer of 1996 under similar economic circumstances. Stories about jobs under Clinton were positive 85 percent of the time, more than six times as often as they were for Bush, despite similar economic data.

The media repeatedly criticized the Bush record, including 13 straight months of positive job creation, 1.5 million more new jobs in 2004 and an unemployment rate that dropped from 6.3 percent to 5.4 percent. In contrast the same news organizations consistently hailed the Clinton record of seven straight months of positive job creation, more than 2 million jobs in 1996 and an unemployment rate that dropped from 5.8 percent to 5.2 percent.

The Media Research Center’s Business & Media Institute (BMI) examined news coverage of the Bureau of Labor Statistics Employment Situation reports during the summer re-election season (May through September in both 1996 and 2004). The changes in unemployment are covered every month when the Department of Labor releases the latest data. BMI researchers analyzed ABC, NBC and CBS evening news broadcasts, the primary evening newscast on CNN, and news articles in The Washington Post and The New York Times. The time period for the study predates the founding of the Fox News Channel so it was not included.

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http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2004/jobs_study/sr20041014.asp

[Pagan]

So now the "source" is the problem?

Give it up kid, it is a fact Bush did GAIN jobs in his first term depsite the Dems best attempts to ensure he did not

But the liberal media no longer talks about a jobless recovery like they did during the Bush years

and YOU seem to have been sucked in along with the rest of lefties

Really? So there was no "Bubble Burst" in 2008, was there?

Again from the so called "Liberal Rag" the Wall Street Journal -

Payroll Expansion
George W. Bush 2.3%
Bill Clinton 21.1%
HW Bush 2.3%
Reagan 17.6%
Carter 13.1%
Ford 2.3%
Nixon 13.6%
LBJ 20.8%
JFK 6.7%
Ike 7.0%
Truman 20.1%

"The current President Bush, once taking account how long he’s been in office, shows the worst track record for job creation since the government began keeping records. –Sudeep Reddy"

So how many of those so called "jobs" 'Dubya created where fast food eh?

Keep defending that Big Spending, Big Government Progressive Liberal, I won't for I'm a Conservative.

[red states rule]

Really?

Again from the so called "Liberal Rag" the Wall Street Journal -

Payroll Expansion
George W. Bush 2.3%
Bill Clinton 21.1%
HW Bush 2.3%
Reagan 17.6%
Carter 13.1%
Ford 2.3%
Nixon 13.6%
LBJ 20.8%
JFK 6.7%
Ike 7.0%
Truman 20.1%

"The current President Bush, once taking account how long he’s been in office, shows the worst track record for job creation since the government began keeping records. –Sudeep Reddy"

So how many of those so called "jobs" 'Dubya created where fast food eh?

Keep defending that Big Spending, Big Government Progressive Liberal, I won't for I'm a Conservative.

Son, you have to learn how to keep up. One month before the 2004 election, the economy grew jobs which put Bush over the top for job creation. Yes, libe like you tried to dismiss them as "not the right kind of jobs"

But gioven the current idiot who has pissed thru TRILLIONS trying to "stimulate" the economy, many people would not mide having Bush back

Get over it. You blew it and posted something that has been proven to be incorrect

Admit and move on

Or at least move on

[Pagan]

Son, you have to learn how to keep up. One month before the 2004 election, the economy grew jobs which put Bush over the top for job creation. Yes, libe like you tried to dismiss them as "not the right kind of jobs"

But gioven the current idiot who has pissed thru TRILLIONS trying to "stimulate" the economy, many people would not mide having Bush back

Get over it. You blew it and posted something that has been proven to be incorrect

Admit and move on

Or at least move on

Can't accept that so called "Liberal Rag" the Wall Street Journal eh?

Like I said, keep defending that Big Government, Big Spending Progressive Liberal and ignore the Bubble burst, I won't.

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[red states rule]

Like I said, keep defending that Big Government, Big Spending Progressive Liberal and ignore the Bubble burst, I won't.

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Hey, the blame Bush crap is no longer working

Obama and the Dems own the economy and it is showing in the polls

[Pagan]

Hey, the blame Bush crap is no longer working

Obama and the Dems own the economy and it is showing in the polls

I'm not the one making excuses, and the economy also played a significant part of why the GOP was fired. You know their Big Government Big Spending Liberal policies.

Don't you think you should stop making excuses for their Big Government Big Spending Liberal polices and get some Conservatives into the Party?

[red states rule]

I'm not the one making excuses, and the economy also played a significant part of why the GOP was fired. You know their Big Government Big Spending Liberal policies.

Don't you think you should stop making excuses for their Big Government Big Spending Liberal polices and get some Conservatives into the Party?

You are new around here, so I will cut you some slack

Go back and look at my past threads. I have called for CONSERVATIVES winning in November and taking a chainsaw to the budget

I want tax cuts across the board. Income tax cuts as well as a cut in the corporate tax rate and the capital gaines tax

I said many times, in most cases if YOU can find it in the Yellow Pages the government shoudl not be offering the same service

[Pagan]

You are new around here, so I will cut you some slack

Go back and look at my past threads. I have called for CONSERVATIVES winning in November and taking a chainsaw to the budget

I want tax cuts across the board. Income tax cuts as well as a cut in the corporate tax rate and the capital gaines tax

I said many times, in most cases if YOU can find it in the Yellow Pages the government shoudl not be offering the same service

Well we're doing the "dance" of figuring out each other.

Yes I'm also a big supporter of cutting tax's, I like Winston Churchhill's quote of -

"Attempting to stimulate the economy by raising tax's is like a man standing in a bucket trying to lift himself". (paraphrasing of course)

But one CANNOT cut tax's without cutting spending, the #1 problem is spending. Tax's are only a symptom of the obscene spending which BOTH sides are highly addicted to.

But what I will not do is play the game of the "blame game", fact is the GOP is just as infected with Progressive Liberals as the Democrat's are. I would vote for a Blue Dog before I would ever vote for another NeoCon Progressive Liberal (aka Rockefeller Republicans) like 'Dubya, Bloomberg, HW Bush, Graham, Romney, etc. Blue Dogs are Conservative's, NeoCon "Rockefeller Republicans" are Progressive Liberals. But me being in Washington State there aren't any Blue Dogs here so that's a "moot point".

I bring up that Liberal 'Dubya when ever I see those who tout how great he was. I piss on him for putting the final nail in the coffin of Ronnie's legacy.

[red states rule]

Well we're doing the "dance" of figuring out each other.

Yes I'm also a big supporter of cutting tax's, I like Winston Churchhill's quote of -

"Attempting to stimulate the economy by raising tax's is like a man standing in a bucket trying to lift himself". (paraphrasing of course)

But one CANNOT cut tax's without cutting spending, the #1 problem is spending. Tax's are only a symptom of the obscene spending which BOTH sides are highly addicted to.

But what I will not do is play the game of the "blame game", fact is the GOP is just as infected with Progressive Liberals as the Democrat's are. I would vote for a Blue Dog before I would ever vote for another NeoCon Progressive Liberal (aka Rockefeller Republicans) like 'Dubya, Bloomberg, HW Bush, Graham, Romney, etc. Blue Dogs are Conservative's, NeoCon "Rockefeller Republicans" are Progressive Liberals. But me being in Washington State there aren't any Blue Dogs here so that's a "moot point".

I bring up that Liberal 'Dubya when ever I see those who tout how great he was. I piss on him for putting the final nail in the coffin of Ronnie's legacy.

Check out my thrad on the Republicnas Contart with America 2.0

I voted for Bush in 2000 because I knew he would be better then Gore

I voted for Bush in 2004 for 4 more years of dead terrorirts and tax cuts

He was a huge letdown in the last 3 years of his term, but polls show a growing number of people would rather have him then Obama