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Noir
10-11-2010, 09:25 AM
More senior White House staff are to leave in the next few months, adding to the high exit rate from President Barack Obama's administration.

Political analysts attribute the attrition rate to exhaustion, but Republican opponents blame disarray inside the White House, with an insular team responsible for too many policy failures.

The imminent departures include those of defence secretary Robert Gates, who has said he hopes to retire early next year, and Obama's senior White House adviser, David Axelrod, who is planning a return to his home town of Chicago early next year to concentrate on planning for Obama's 2012 re-election bid.

The White House press secretary, Robert Gibbs, has been mentioned in the past few weeks in connection with a range of jobs, including White House adviser or chairman of the Democratic national committee, which runs the party.

This follows the departure of the national security adviser, General James Jones, after less than two years in office, as well as almost the entire economics team, of whom Peter Orszag and Christina Romer have already gone. Larry Summers is due to return to Harvard before the end of the year. The chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, left last month to stand for mayor of Chicago.

The changes provide Obama with a chance to reshape his team after the 2 November midterm elections, in which polls indicate the Republicans stand to make big gains.

Obama's popularity in opinion polls has dropped from 70% last year to the mid-40s this year, so a reshuffle offers an opportunity to reverse that trend and to change economic and foreign policies and political strategy. Regular staff changes were not uncommon during the Bill Clinton presidency and those of his predecessors, but this exodus is unusual in that it is happening before the result of the mid-term elections, when staff reshuffles normally take place.

In a blog on the Politico website, Alvin Felzenberg, the presidential historian and author of The Leaders We Deserved, writes: "These departures are a reflection of Obama's leadership style. Why he has such a difficult time earning and retaining the loyalties of people outside his circle of intimates is anyone's guess."

Gibbs last month attributed the changes to 15-or 16-hour work days, seven days a week. Professor Ross Baker, a political scientist at Rutgers University, agrees exhaustion is a factor but attributes the exodus to the scale of the problems the team has faced, especially over the economy.

"The exhaustion rate for this administration is more accelerated due to the problems they encountered in January 2009. There was no presidential 'honeymoon'," Baker said today. He added that some of them had been working intensively on economic policy in the six months before Obama took over.

"These are worn-out, depleted people who are not waiting for the fire alarm to be sounded before heading for the emergency exit," Baker said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/10/white-house-staff-quit

While not really the main point of the article, I find what Gibb said amazing, 16 hour weeks!

Kathianne
10-11-2010, 10:00 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/10/white-house-staff-quit

While not really the main point of the article, I find what Gibb said amazing, 16 hour weeks!

Really? Never watched West Wing? :laugh2: Seriously, that's the norm for White House staffers, has been since at least Woodrow Wilson's term. 16 hours is only an 80 hour week. There are lots of younger lawyers, many doctors, and business owners that put in those hours for many years, way more than 8.

KarlMarx
10-11-2010, 10:24 AM
To paraphrase the Bard... "the fault is not in ourselves, but in our stars"

The reason for Obama's failure is that Obama's policies just don't work, they never have and never will.

Socialism does not fail because people don't try hard enough, it fails because it just doesn't work.

Noir
10-11-2010, 10:50 AM
Really? Never watched West Wing? :laugh2: Seriously, that's the norm for White House staffers, has been since at least Woodrow Wilson's term. 16 hours is only an 80 hour week. There are lots of younger lawyers, many doctors, and business owners that put in those hours for many years, way more than 8.

14 hours a day 7 days a week is just shy of 100 hours a week =/ how anyone could keep that up I have no idea.

Kathianne
10-11-2010, 11:19 AM
14 hours a day 7 days a week is just shy of 100 hours a week =/ how anyone could keep that up I have no idea.

From 38-41 I averaged about 87 hours a week. I had 3 kids under 14. That was to survive. If I loved my job and had no kids or someone to watch them, no problem.

Really Noir, many Americans work ungodly hours-often by choice. Many choose not to use all of their vacation and most wouldn't come close to using all their sick time. We have been productive people. Will that remain so? Not if Daddy government will make it easier not to.

Gaffer
10-11-2010, 01:26 PM
And while his minions put in 14 to 16 hour days the dark lord is....playing golf.

PostmodernProphet
10-11-2010, 02:59 PM
I've been watching the television show Rubicon, about intelligence analysts.....I have no idea if it is accurate, but the folks on that show seem to work about 24 hours a day.....

as far as Obama staffers leaving, the one I still anticipate is Hillary leaving the Secretary of State office, signaling a 2012 challenge for the Democratic nomination......

Pagan
10-11-2010, 03:07 PM
I've been watching the television show Rubicon, about intelligence analysts.....I have no idea if it is accurate, but the folks on that show seem to work about 24 hours a day.....

as far as Obama staffers leaving, the one I still anticipate is Hillary leaving the Secretary of State office, signaling a 2012 challenge for the Democratic nomination......

Good call, I agree. Hillary will be putting in the bid and I doubt Obama will even try to seek nomination.

The Aristocracy is well in trenched and Hillary is the "Anointed" one for the crown.

SassyLady
10-11-2010, 05:24 PM
14 hours a day 7 days a week is just shy of 100 hours a week =/ how anyone could keep that up I have no idea.

Depending on the business and the time of year, a lot of business owners will put in 20+ hour days. Agriculture for one .... when it's time to harvest no one sleeps.

Try owning your own business, going to college three nights a week and raising three kids. No wonder I'm so tired now! LOL!!

Kathianne
10-11-2010, 05:31 PM
Depending on the business and the time of year, a lot of business owners will put in 20+ hour days. Agriculture for one .... when it's time to harvest no one sleeps.

Try owning your own business, going to college three nights a week and raising three kids. No wonder I'm so tired now! LOL!!

Yep, one thing that I've learned from messageboards and blogs is that people do work longer, harder, and seemingly more happily than most places. I know many people that do not use all of their vacation time. I don't know of anyone self-employed that has left their business longer than 4 days, until they were over 50.

Over the years I've seen multiple Europeans insist that the government should mandate vacation time. Seriously.

SassyLady
10-11-2010, 05:37 PM
Yep, one thing that I've learned from messageboards and blogs is that people do work longer, harder, and seemingly more happily than most places. I know many people that do not use all of their vacation time. I don't know of anyone self-employed that has left their business longer than 4 days, until they were over 50.

Over the years I've seen multiple Europeans insist that the government should mandate vacation time. Seriously.

Europeans do love their "holiday" time.

Kathianne
10-11-2010, 05:44 PM
Europeans do love their "holiday" time.

Oh I think most of us like our vacation times plenty. Just like working too. Americans just are different, one of the most frequent complaints are people coming to work, sick. Even when paid for sick time.

Trigg
10-11-2010, 08:03 PM
Oh I think most of us like our vacation times plenty. Just like working too. Americans just are different, one of the most frequent complaints are people coming to work, sick. Even when paid for sick time.

sometimes there is no choice but to work when sick. Especially when businesses, and lately even hospitals, have cut their staffing down to bare bones.

I was sick for two weeks and left early one day, there are only 3 of us and 1 was on vacation. I just couldn't, in good conscience, leave all the work for the other person.

Kathianne
10-11-2010, 08:04 PM
sometimes there is no choice but to work when sick. Especially when businesses, and lately even hospitals, have cut their staffing down to bare bones.

I was sick for two weeks and left early one day, there are only 3 of us and 1 was on vacation. I just couldn't, in good conscience, leave all the work for the other person.

and you are typical. Of course the downside is if it makes others sick, perhaps worse. Yet it's true in nearly all fields.

Trigg
10-11-2010, 08:14 PM
and you are typical. Of course the downside is if it makes others sick, perhaps worse. Yet it's true in nearly all fields.

Managers certainly aren't encouraging people to go home. Mine simply looked the other way, heck I had to ask to go home early, he didn't suggest it. :laugh2:

DragonStryk72
10-11-2010, 09:22 PM
14 hours a day 7 days a week is just shy of 100 hours a week =/ how anyone could keep that up I have no idea.

Speaking from personal experience? Caffeine, lots and lots of caffeine

PostmodernProphet
10-12-2010, 06:56 AM
The Aristocracy is well in trenched and Hillary is the "Anointed" one for the crown.

we already had one of those...can we have an Elected one this time?.....