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Kathianne
10-11-2010, 12:36 PM
I remember when some think tanks first took serious note of al Queda during the join up with Taliban and threats to Buddha carvings. It seems the bin Landin declared jihad on US about 5 years before 9/11. Of course earlier attacks were often deadly, but ignored for the most part.

http://www.gloria-center.org/gloria/2010/10/muslim-brotherhood-declares-war-on-america



Muslim Brotherhood Declares War on America; Will America Notice?
By Barry Rubin *
October 9, 2010

This is one of those obscure Middle East events of the utmost significance that is ignored by the Western mass media, especially because they happen in Arabic, not English; by Western governments, because they don't fit their policies; and by experts, because they don't mesh with their preconceptions.

This explicit formulation of a revolutionary program makes it a game-changer. It should be read by every Western decisionmaker and have a direct effect on policy because this development may affect people's lives in every Western country.

OK, cnough of a build-up? Well, it isn't exaggerated. So don't think the next sentence is an anticlimax. Here we go: The leader of the Muslim Brotherhood has endorsed (Arabic) (English translation by MEMRI) anti-American Jihad and pretty much every element in the al-Qaida ideology book. Since the Brotherhood is the main opposition force in Egypt and Jordan as well as the most powerful group, both politically and religiously, in the Muslim communities of Europe and North America this is pretty serious stuff.

By the way, no one can argue that he merely represents old, tired policies of the distant past because the supreme guide who said these things was elected just a few months ago. His position reflects current thinking.

Does that mean the Egyptian, Jordanian, and all the camouflaged Muslim Brotherhood fronts in Europe and North America are going to launch terrorism as one of their affiliates, Hamas, has long done? No.

But it does mean that something awaited for decades has happened: the Muslim Brotherhood is ready to move from the era of propaganda and base-building to one of revolutionary action. At least, its hundreds of thousands of followers are being given that signal. Some of them will engage in terrorist violence as individuals or forming splinter groups; others will redouble their efforts to seize control of their countries and turn them into safe areas for terrorists and instruments for war on the West.

When the extreme and arguably marginal British Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary says that Islam will conquer the West and raise its flag over the White House, that can be treated as wild rhetoric. His remark is getting lots of attention because he said it in English in an interview with CNN. Who cares what he says?

But when the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood says the same thing in Arabic, that's a program for action, a call to arms for hundreds of thousands of people, and a national security threat to every Western country.

The Brotherhood is the group that often dominates Muslim communities in the West and runs mosques. Its cadre control front groups that are often recognized by Western democratic governments and media as authoritative. Government officials in many countries meet with these groups, ask them to be advisers for counter-terrorist strategies and national policies, and even fund them.

President Barack Obama speaks about a conflict limited solely to al-Qaida. And if one is talking about the current military battle in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen that point makes sense. Yet there is a far bigger and wider battle going on in which revolutionary Islamists seek to overthrow their own rulers and wage long-term, full-scale struggle against the West. If it doesn't involve violence right now it will when they get strong enough or gain power...

Gaffer
10-11-2010, 01:14 PM
The MB has been at war with the west for 40 years at least. As the article says they are starting to flex their muscles. hamas, hezbo, al queda and many others are all off shoots of the brotherhood. The real war with islam is just around the corner and the politicians better get their shit together and realize that.

Turkey's already starting to conform. Egypt and Jordan will join them in the next few years. The basic plan is spelled out in the koran and hadith, keep a low profile, pretend to be friends until you are strong enough to strike. A new caliphate is being established and then the conquest of the world will begin.

Kathianne
10-11-2010, 01:19 PM
The MB has been at war with the west for 40 years at least. As the article says they are starting to flex their muscles. hamas, hezbo, al queda and many others are all off shoots of the brotherhood. The real war with islam is just around the corner and the politicians better get their shit together and realize that.

Turkey's already starting to conform. Egypt and Jordan will join them in the next few years. The basic plan is spelled out in the koran and hadith, keep a low profile, pretend to be friends until you are strong enough to strike. A new caliphate is being established and then the conquest of the world will begin.

No doubt, which basically was Rubin's point. There's a reason the Chinese curse is just that.

Gaffer
10-11-2010, 01:39 PM
The brotherhood started and is based in Egypt. Wonder what abso will have to say when they start to move against the Egyptian government.

Kathianne
10-11-2010, 01:48 PM
The brotherhood started and is based in Egypt. Wonder what abso will have to say when they start to move against the Egyptian government.

That was one of the points expanded upon. Mubarek retiring or succumbing to illness. Egypt might well be the first target, simply for the relationship with Israel.

Gaffer
10-11-2010, 02:04 PM
That was one of the points expanded upon. Mubarek retiring or succumbing to illness. Egypt might well be the first target, simply for the relationship with Israel.

Yeah he does bring that out. Egypt is probably the most secular arab government over there. Mubaric has kept a tight reign but he's mortal and old. A fascinating article with a lot of insight.

I said many times before that the war with islam, which remains unnamed by our government and the west will be going on for a 100 years or until people wake up. He even describes how different their mind set is from the west, another thing I have been saying for years. More people need to pick up on what he has to say.

Kathianne
10-11-2010, 02:08 PM
Yeah he does bring that out. Egypt is probably the most secular arab government over there. Mubaric has kept a tight reign but he's mortal and old. A fascinating article with a lot of insight.

I said many times before that the war with islam, which remains unnamed by our government and the west will be going on for a 100 years or until people wake up. He even describes how different their mind set is from the west, another thing I have been saying for years. More people need to pick up on what he has to say.

I agree. Seems it begins with believing what 'they' say. Can't say they aren't warning, in fact, calling for war.

Egypt is a mix of secular and hyper Islamic, factions that actually fight. Problem is that many in the later group are highly religious and nationalistic about Islam.