OCA is obviously gay

[loosecannon]

And he can't debate so he starts gay bashing threads so he can shine in the light of his "strengths".

Let's give ole OCA a break.

If he can prove that he isn't gay, here is his chance.

Good luck!!!!!

You woulda been better off to attempt to debate.

btw, OCA, stop sending me your gay PM's. I don't swing your way.

[Hobbit]

You wanna respond to the threads he personally created for you, first?

I'd also like to know what you'd accept as proof, short of video of him banging a chick, which would be porn and is forbidden on this board.

[LiberalNation]

Obviously......

[Psychoblues]

Seriously, the man has a fixation about "balls on the chin". He repeats it over and over again. He is obviously gay without question and he has a sexual addicktion, pun intended, that he needs some Psychological (also pun intended) help with.

[loosecannon]

You wanna respond to the threads he personally created for you, first?



Why? I mean OCA is obviously gay. He can't get enough of gay talk.

Let im out of the closet Hobbit. Have a heart.

[gabosaurus]

This is an f-ing ridiculous thread. I pretty much never agree with OCA, but I am not going to downright insult him. He makes some decent points. At least OCA doesn't consistently wallow in the gutter. Which I can't say for some other posters here.
Get your head out of your butt and go back to debating.

[Psychoblues]

Your day will come, gabby.


This is an f-ing ridiculous thread. I pretty much never agree with OCA, but I am not going to downright insult him. He makes some decent points. At least OCA doesn't consistently wallow in the gutter. Which I can't say for some other posters here.
Get your head out of your butt and go back to debating.

Have a little patience. In the meantime, slip over to the Lounge and have a Pepsi on me. I'll be in the Cinco De Mayo thread.

[gabosaurus]

OCA has been on me tons, going back to the other forum. It's all part of the give and take. Only a few need to get really low to make their point.

I dislike Pepsi. Takes worse than beer.

[Samantha]

If OCA makes gay remarks a lot, he's probably gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

;)

[Pale Rider]

If he can prove that he isn't gay, here is his chance.

How about this... let's do this the American way.... "YOU prove he IS a queer."

(Not only do I know you can't, I know OCA ain't no fucking faggot either. You're just trying to smear him. But I'll tell ya what bud, that guy has chewed bigger and better guys than you up and spit them out, and HE is still HERE! Think about that. You're picking on a pretty big fish.)

[OCA]

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Loose, you simply refused to debate a topic, you wanted me to pick a topic, start a thread and debate with you, I complied, you did not show up although you viewed the thread many times, now how do YOU LOOSE say that that looks. Thats right, you cut and ran, you pussed out, you took the bitch way.

Now LMFAO! this is your response, are you kidding me?

The whole board is laughing at you, even libs.

[OCA]

Seriously, the man has a fixation about "balls on the chin". He repeats it over and over again. He is obviously gay without question and he has a sexual addicktion, pun intended, that he needs some Psychological (also pun intended) help with.

Metaphor, you old drunk, look up the word metaphor and the phrase "read between the lines".

I've turned down more pussy that you've ever had.

[OCA]

If OCA makes gay remarks a lot, he's probably gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

;)


Yes honey, if thinking this helps you to cope with the fact that your side has no argument on the queer issues then who am I to stop you.

You know you guys just look more and more ridiculous with each and every accusation.

[diuretic]

Metaphor, you old drunk, look up the word metaphor and the phrase "read between the lines".

I've turned down more pussy that you've ever had.

Given the nature of the calumny against you OCA I think, tactically speaking, even suggesting that you "turned down...pussy" isn't a really smart move.

Just sayin' y'know.

[OCA]

Given the nature of the calumny against you OCA I think, tactically speaking, even suggesting that you "turned down...pussy" isn't a really smart move.

Just sayin' y'know.

Sure it is. The obvious replies will only make these fools look worse.

Just to let you know i've got 1 nuclear bomb on this subject that will render everyone but me lifeless.

[diuretic]

Sure it is. The obvious replies will only make these fools look worse.

Just to let you know i've got 1 nuclear bomb on this subject that will render everyone but me lifeless.

You may need a Hail Mary pass on this one. If you admit you "turned down...pussy" it makes you look like you prefer cock.

[OCA]

You may need a Hail Mary pass on this one. If you admit you "turned down...pussy" it makes you look like you prefer cock.

Members here have met my wife, went to dinner with me.

Is that enough of a hail mary pass for ya?

[diuretic]

Members here have met my wife, went to dinner with me.

Is that enough of a hail mary pass for ya?

It's not what I think, I don't a toss either way. If you're going to get into shitfights with people it pays not to give free kicks, that's all I'm saying. I'm not pronouncing on you or your private life. I don't know one and I'm not interested in the other. That's not meant to sound unpleasant. It's just that whoever you are is your business and yours alone.

[Nuc]

I don't know, when OCA was talking about how his favorite CD is bouzouki versions of Elton John songs, I started to wonder...........

[diuretic]

I don't know, when OCA was talking about how his favorite CD is bouzouki versions of Elton John songs, I started to wonder...........

I like rembetika, used to love that show on SBS "Piraeus Blues", that was some years ago now so it may have finished before you got here Nuc. I like Greek folk music too. I got the taste for it living in Coober Pedy. All those warm nights swigging beer and listening to the bouzoukakia..

[Nuc]

I like rembetika, used to love that show on SBS "Piraeus Blues", that was some years ago now so it may have finished before you got here Nuc. I like Greek folk music too. I got the taste for it living in Coober Pedy. All those warm nights swigging beer and listening to the bouzoukakia..

Didn't see that show, but I saw rembetica in Greece several times when I was there. It's great music, the Greek blues!

But Elton John songs don't sound good on the baglama, OCA should be ashamed!

[diuretic]

Didn't see that show, but I saw rembetica in Greece several times when I was there. It's great music, the Greek blues!

But Elton John songs don't sound good on the baglama, OCA should be ashamed!

I agree, Elton should stick to the piano.

Ah the baglama, I made a bit of a faux pas years ago, can't go into details but was driving along with a Turkish man listening to an eight-track cartridge and I asked him if he liked bouzoukakia. Heck if looks could kill :laugh2:

[loosecannon]

How about this... let's do this the American way.... "YOU prove he IS a queer."

(Not only do I know you can't, I know OCA ain't no fucking faggot either. You're just trying to smear him. But I'll tell ya what bud, that guy has chewed bigger and better guys than you up and spit them out, and HE is still HERE! Think about that. You're picking on a pretty big fish.)

PR, OCA is a punk. I am just returning his serve. He has started something like 5 threads about me and even one just to draw my attention to one of his "queers" threads.

A whole friggin thread just because i wasn't paying enough attention to his cage bs.

[loosecannon]

Sure it is. The obvious replies will only make these fools look worse.

Just to let you know i've got 1 nuclear bomb on this subject that will render everyone but me lifeless.


you are coming out?

[OCA]

PR, OCA is a punk. I am just returning his serve. He has started something like 5 threads about me and even one just to draw my attention to one of his "queers" threads.

A whole friggin thread just because i wasn't paying enough attention to his cage bs.


You asked me to start a thread and you would whip my ass, I started a thread, you read the thread and ran, yes I know you read the thread in the days previous, watched you do it.

Who's the punk?

Your credibility is shot here.

[OCA]

you are coming out?

Jimmy, its time to get rid of this troll, pull the plug on him/her.

No value to the board does this person add, hell even Psycho does some work and mows the ditches here, this person just sits on the porch and watches, drinking the sweet tea that SOMEBODY ELSE made and pissing himself.

[Yurt]

Why? I mean OCA is obviously gay. He can't get enough of gay talk.

Let im out of the closet Hobbit. Have a heart.

Coming from one who speaks about:


Nobody pays any attention to you OCA, you are the board's village idiot.

Will you bark for a bisquit? Down boy, down. Roll over. Lick your balls.

:slap:

[diuretic]

Gawd this is fucking stupid. Get over yourselves. Get on topic or fuck off.

[Yurt]

Gawd this is fucking stupid. Get over yourselves. Get on topic or fuck off.

Pot/Kettle...

[diuretic]

Pot/Kettle...

Clueless, meet clueless.

[OCA]

Gawd this is fucking stupid. Get over yourselves. Get on topic or fuck off.

Newbie, pay no attention.

[Yurt]

Clueless, meet clueless.


Gawd this is fucking stupid. Get over yourselves. Get on topic or fuck off.

Do you know what a hypocrite is? Here is a mirror...

[diuretic]

Newbie, pay no attention.

Mindless, nothing to be learned here, just move on.

[diuretic]

Do you know what a hypocrite is? Here is a mirror...

Damnit that really has brought me to a standstill. Such wit!

[Yurt]

Damnit that really has brought me to a standstill. Such wit!


Gawd this is fucking stupid. Get over yourselves. Get on topic or fuck off.

:rolleyes:

[diuretic]

:rolleyes:

Well? Come on, what is it with you? Jeez talk about wussy.

Come on petal, get into it.

Bloody hell you really are a mob of tender sooks.

Any lawyers with balls here? Or is this the preserve of effete wankers?

[Yurt]

Well? Come on, what is it with you? Jeez talk about wussy.

Come on petal, get into it.

Bloody hell you really are a mob of tender sooks.

Any lawyers with balls here? Or is this the preserve of effete wankers?


Gawd this is fucking stupid. Get over yourselves. Get on topic or fuck off.


;)

[Roomy]

Yurt says " I like the balls on OCA":laugh2:

OCA says " I like yours on my chin":laugh2:

Yurt says "Let's do it":laugh2:

OCA says "again already":laugh2:

[manu1959]

what a great discussion.....

[OCA]

Well? Come on, what is it with you? Jeez talk about wussy.

Come on petal, get into it.

Bloody hell you really are a mob of tender sooks.

Any lawyers with balls here? Or is this the preserve of effete wankers?

This coming from a Brit, telling us to get balls! LMFAO!

[Pale Rider]

Or is this the preserve of effete wankers?

A "wanker".... :laugh: Oh take a hike ya TOSER... :laugh2:

[loosecannon]

You asked me to start a thread and you would whip my ass, I started a thread, you read the thread and ran, yes I know you read the thread in the days previous, watched you do it.

Who's the punk?

Your credibility is shot here.

No dudette, I challenged you to pick a debate topic and open a thread for it. You tried nine kinds of diversion instead.

I not only won't whip a gaybo on the ass, I won't even look at your ass.

I don't drive both ways on the biways

go back to your "queers" thread.

[Guernicaa]

OCA is probably one of the worst right-wing sexual hypocrites that I've even witnessed. I can only imagine the sheer magnitude of pain that his insecurities have on him.

[OCA]

No dudette, I challenged you to pick a debate topic and open a thread for it. You tried nine kinds of diversion instead.

I not only won't whip a gaybo on the ass, I won't even look at your ass.

I don't drive both ways on the biways

go back to your "queers" thread.


The thread is called "queer marriage"....I opened it as you requested and you cut and ran.

You have no credibility at DP

Everybody laughs at you.

[OCA]

OCA is probably one of the worst right-wing sexual hypocrites that I've even witnessed. I can only imagine the sheer magnitude of pain that his insecurities have on him.


This is to mask that you have no argument and can't debate.

Troll.

[Guernicaa]

This is to mask that you have no argument and can't debate.

Troll.
Um I do believe this is a thread specifically making fun of you and does not require "debate". Also, read your own fucking responses before you open your mouth dumbfuck.

[OCA]

Um I do believe this is a thread specifically making fun of you and does not require "debate". Also, read your own fucking responses before you open your mouth dumbfuck.

Doesn't matter, you are a troll, you can't debate.

You are an ignoramus, that is why you fall to the liberal side, its intellectually lazy and requires zero thought.

I could take you in debate after 6 fifths of Jack.

[Nuc]

Wow, I went to sleep for 8 hours (or in Biblical terms about 450 million years) and when I came back this meaningless retardfest was still going on. :lame2: :pee: :fu: :salute: :poke:

[Pale Rider]

Wow, I went to sleep for 8 hours (or in Biblical terms about 450 million years) and when I came back this meaningless retardfest was still going on. :lame2: :pee: :fu: :salute: :poke:

First place you checked aye? :laugh:

[Yurt]

Yurt says " I like the balls on OCA":laugh2:

OCA says " I like yours on my chin":laugh2:

Yurt says "Let's do it":laugh2:

OCA says "again already":laugh2:

FU tosser. WTF made your drunkard self post this? What, OCA is not allowed to have someone who has been through the same shite with loosy? I didn't mind you before and even found you funny at times, but this, fuck you, you worthless.......... You're so f'ed up you don't even know what disrespect is..... Too bad arsehole, but maybe it is time you belt up, and forget bob, cuz he disowned you as his uncle.


:fu:

[Yurt]

Um I do believe this is a thread specifically making fun of you and does not require "debate". Also, read your own fucking responses before you open your mouth dumbfuck.

So if I make a thread about you and claim all sorts of things, then it does not require debate, right?

Yes

or

No

[Roomy]

FU tosser. WTF made your drunkard self post this? What, OCA is not allowed to have someone who has been through the same shite with loosy? I didn't mind you before and even found you funny at times, but this, fuck you, you worthless.......... You're so f'ed up you don't even know what disrespect is..... Too bad arsehole, but maybe it is time you belt up, and forget bob, cuz he disowned you as his uncle.


:fu:


:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: slit your wrists and lower your blood pressure buddy:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
:dance: I love this shit:laugh2: :laugh2: I had to delete a smilie because you are only allowed 10 hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahah ah.......etc.

[Yurt]

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: slit your wrists and lower your blood pressure buddy:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
:dance: I love this shit:laugh2: :laugh2: I had to delete a smilie because you are only allowed 10 hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahah ah.......etc.

you are sick, and to think i actually thought you had something to offer this forum.... ah, live and learn, trash lies in gutters everyday, unfortunately, the trash lies more somedays that others...

tosser

[Roomy]

you are sick, and to think i actually thought you had something to offer this forum.... ah, live and learn, trash lies in gutters everyday, unfortunately, the trash lies more somedays that others...

tosser

:laugh2: Sick, you call me, yes I am sick, sick of your constant whining and slurping at OCA's arse crack and ball sack. Can I hear mammy running your bath?:laugh2:

[OCA]

:laugh2: Sick, you call me, yes I am sick, sick of your constant whining and slurping at OCA's arse crack and ball sack. Can I hear mammy running your bath?:laugh2:

Roomy is jealous because he wanted a crack at tonguing my sphincter and getting a face full of OCA man pancakes.:laugh2:

[OCA]

First place you checked aye? :laugh:


Nuc and Shattered=holier than thou.

[Guernicaa]

So if I make a thread about you and claim all sorts of things, then it does not require debate, right?

Yes

or

No
No...unless of course they weren't true.

See, the things being said about OCF......are true.

[Guernicaa]

Doesn't matter, you are a troll, you can't debate.

You are an ignoramus, that is why you fall to the liberal side, its intellectually lazy and requires zero thought.

I could take you in debate after 6 fifths of Jack.
HAHAHAhahahaahaha

Your're so full of shit its not even funny.

I've been slappin' your ass since I got here...
And theres A LOT more to come.

[OCA]

No...unless of course they weren't true.

See, the things being said about OCF......are true.


Obama knows, he sucked me off this morning.

[OCA]

HAHAHAhahahaahaha

Your're so full of shit its not even funny.

I've been slappin' your ass since I got here...
And theres A LOT more to come.

Woahhh uhhhh ok.........:laugh2:

Troll.

[Guernicaa]

Obama knows, he sucked me off this morning.
Yeah I did.
And that vagina of yours smelled like shit.

[Missileman]

Obama knows, he sucked me off this morning.

Do you even realize how openly homosexual that makes you sound? It's not just the queer that does it, it's also the queer that let's him. If you want people to stop implying that you're gay, you REALLY need to avoid these kinds of statements.

[OCA]

Do you even realize how openly homosexual that makes you sound? It's not just the queer that does it, it's also the queer that let's him. If you want people to stop implying that you're gay, you REALLY need to avoid these kinds of statements.

Nah, i'm pointing out absurdity with absurdity.

[OCA]

Yeah I did.
And that vagina of yours smelled like shit.

You said give me 12 inches and hurt me, so I plowed you twice then hit you in the head with a fucking brick.

[lily]

Wow, I went to sleep for 8 hours (or in Biblical terms about 450 million years)


Ok.......now that is funny!

[Guernicaa]

You said give me 12 inches and hurt me, so I plowed you twice then hit you in the head with a fucking brick
No, that’s not how I remember it.
I said no, so you moaned like a little bitch.

Crosses the line - too Vulgar - Admin

[OCA]

No, that’s not how I remember it.
I said no, so you moaned like a little bitch.

Then you woke up........dreaming of me.

You are fascinated by me, not the first, not the last troll to find me fascinating.

[Guernicaa]

You are fascinated by me, not the first, not the last troll to find me fascinating.
Nah not really.

Your just a huge joke and its really funny.
But I have to ask, why do you have sex with men and take on this right-wing anti-gay personality when your on here? Does it make you feel better about yourself?

[OCA]

Nah not really.

Your just a huge joke and its really funny.
But I have to ask, why do you have sex with men and take on this right-wing anti-gay personality when your on here? Does it make you feel better about yourself?

No, making you look like a fool to veterans here makes me feel good about myself.

Keep it up, you just look more and more ridiculous with each post.

[Guernicaa]

No, making you look like a fool to veterans here makes me feel good about myself.

Keep it up, you just look more and more ridiculous with each post.
No, you just level of intelligence just seems to shrink as I tear you apart. The right-wing majority here feels threatened by me.

[Samantha]

Yes honey, if thinking this helps you to cope with the fact that your side has no argument on the queer issues then who am I to stop you.

You know you guys just look more and more ridiculous with each and every accusation.

Our side's argument is that there's nothing wrong with being gay. Live and let live. You don't have to be ashamed. It's OK to love whomever you love. Our side thinks your side needs to lighten up. :D

[OCA]

No, you just level of intelligence just seems to shrink as I tear you apart. The right-wing majority here feels threatened by me.

I see we never learned how to form a sentence, eh?

You were saying about level of intelligence?

[lily]

I see we never learned how to form a sentence, eh?

You were saying about level of intelligence?


Did you need to borrow this "what"?

:laugh2:

[OCA]

Did you need to borrow this "what"?

:laugh2:

No what needed.

[OCA]

Our side's argument is that there's nothing wrong with being gay. Live and let live. You don't have to be ashamed. It's OK to love whomever you love. Our side thinks your side needs to lighten up. :D


There is nothing wrong with it, eh?


SAME SEX MARRIAGE:
Til Death Do Us Part?
By Dr. Paul Cameron





Society has a vested interest in prohibiting behavior that endangers the health or safety of the community. Because of this, homosexual liaisons have historically been forbidden by law.

Homosexuals contend that their relationships are the equivalent of marriage between a man and woman. They demand that society dignify and approve of their partnerships by giving them legal status as 'marriages.' They further argue that homosexuals should be allowed to become foster parents or adopt children.

The best scientific evidence suggests that putting society's stamp of approval on homosexual partnerships would harm society in general and homosexuals in particular, the very individuals some contend would be helped.

A large body of scientific evidence suggests that homosexual marriage is a defective counterfeit of traditional marriage and that it poses a clear and present danger to the health of the community:

Traditional marriage improves the health of its participants, has the lowest rate of domestic violence, prolongs life, and is the best context in which to raise children.

Homosexual coupling undermines its participants' health, has the highest rate of domestic violence, shortens life, and is a poor environment in which to raise children.

The Facts About Homosexual Marriage
Fact #1: Homosexual marriages are short lived.
When one examines homosexual behavior patterns, it becomes clear that the plea for legal homosexual marriage is less about marriage than the push for legitimacy. Most gays and lesbians are not in monogamous relationships, and in fact often live alone by preference.

In a study (1) of 2,000 U.S. and European gays in the 1960s, researchers found that "living by oneself is probably the chief residential pattern for male homosexuals. It provides the freedom to pursue whatever style of homosexual life one chooses, whether it be furtive encounters in parks or immersion in the homosexual subculture. In addition, homosexual relationships are fragile enough to make this residential pattern common whether deliberate or not."
A 1970 study in San Francisco (2) found that approximately 61% of gays and 37% of lesbians were living alone.
In 1977, the Spada Report (3) noted that only 8% of the gays in its sample claimed to have a monogamous relationship with a live-in lover.
The same year (4) over 5,000 gays and lesbians were asked: "Do you consider or have you considered yourself 'married' to another [homosexual]?" Only 40% of lesbians and 25% of gays said "yes." The authors noted that with "gay male couples, it is hard to even suggest that there are norms of behavior. [One] might expect to find a clear pattern of 'categories' emerging from the answers to the questions about lovers, boy friends, and relationships. In fact, no such pattern emerged."
In the early 1980s, a large non-random sample (5) of almost 8,000 heterosexual and homosexual couples responded to advertisements in alternative newspapers. The average number of years together was 9.8 for the married, 1.7, for cohabiting heterosexuals, 3.5 for the gay couples, and 2.2 for the lesbian couples.
Variety Over Monogamy
Although gay activists often argue that legalizing homosexual marriage would help make such relationships more permanent, the reality is that most gays desire variety in their sex partners, not the monogamy of traditional marriage.

In 1987, only 23% of gays in London (6) reported sexual exclusivity "in the month before interview."
In 1990, only 12% of gays in Toronto, Canada (7) said that they were in monogamous relationships.
In 1991, in the midst of the AIDS crisis, Australian gays (8) were monitored to see whether they had changed their sexual habits. There was essentially no change in 5 years: 23% reported a monogamous relationship, 35% a non-monogamous relationship, and 29% only "casual sex." The authors reported that "there were almost as many men moving into monogamy as out of it, and out of casual-only partnerships as into them."
In 1993, a study (9) of 428 gays in San Francisco found that only 14% reported just a single sexual partner in the previous year. The vast majority had multiple sex partners.
In 1994, the largest national gay magazine'° reported that only 17% of its sample of 2,500 gays claimed to live together in a monogamous relationship.
Even gays who do have long-term partners do not play by the typical 'rules.' Only 69% of Dutch gays" with a marriage-type 'partner' actually lived together. The average number of "outside partners" per year of 'marriage' was 7.1 and increased from 2.5 in the first year of the relationship to 11 in the 6th year.

Why are homosexual marriages shorter and less committed than traditional marriages?
At any given time, less than a third of gays and approximately half of lesbians are living with a lover. Because the relationships are so short, the average homosexual can anticipate many, many 'divorces.'

At any instant, about 10% of gays live together in monogamous relationships. Their monogamy seldom lasts beyond a year. Perhaps half of lesbians live together in monogamous relationships. These typically dissolve in one to three years.

These same patterns appear in the scientific literature over the last 50 years, both long before and during the AIDS epidemic. This consistency suggests a reality associated with the practice of homosexuality, one unlikely to be affected by changes in marriage laws.

The Danish Experience
In Denmark, a form of homosexual marriage has been legal since 1989. Through 1995, less than 5% of Danish homosexuals had gotten married, and 28% of these marriages had already ended in divorce or death. (12)

The Danish experience provides no evidence that gay 'marriage' is beneficial. Men who married men were three times more apt to be widowers before the age of 55 than men who married women! Similarly, a woman who married a woman was three times more apt to be a widow than a woman who married a man.

Fact #2: Studies show homosexual marriage is hazardous to one's health.
Across the world, numerous researchers have reported that 'committed' or 'coupled' homosexuals are more apt to engage in highly risky and biologically unsanitary sexual practices than are 'single' gays. As a consequence of this activity, they increase their chances of getting AIDS and other sexually transmitted or blood-borne diseases.

In 1983, near the beginning of the AIDS epidemic, gays in San Francisco (13) who claimed to be in "monogamous relationships" were compared to those who were not. Without exception, those in monogamous relationships more frequently reported that they had engaged in biologically unhealthful activity during the past year. As examples, 4.5% of the monogamous v. 2.2% of the unpartnered had engaged in drinking urine, and 33.3% v. 19.6% claimed to practice oral-anal sex.
In a sample of London gays (6) in 1987, those infected with HIV were more apt to have regular partners than those not so infected. In 1989, Italian researchers (14) investigated 127 gays attending an AIDS clinic. Twelve percent of those without steady partners v. 28% of those with steady partners were HIV+. The investigators remarked that "to our surprise, male prostitutes did not seem to be at increased risk, whereas homosexuals who reported a steady partner (i.e., the same man for the previous six months) carried the highest relative risk."
During 1991-92, 677 gays in England (15) were asked about "unprotected anal sex." Those who had 'regular' partners reported sex lives which were "about three times as likely to involve unprotected anal sex than partnerships described as 'casual/one-night stands."' Sex with a regular partner "was far more important than awareness of HIV status in facilitating high-risk behaviour."
A 1993 British sexual diary study (16) of 385 gays reported that men in "monogamous" relationships practiced more anal intercourse and more anal-oral sex than those without a steady partner. It concluded that "gay men in a Closed relationship... exhibit... the highest risk of HIV transmission."
In 1992, a sample (17) of 2,593 gays from Tucson, AZ and Portland, OR reinforced the consistent finding that "gay men in primary relationships are significantly more likely than single men to have engaged in unprotected anal intercourse."
Similarly, a 1993 sample (18) of gays from Barcelona, Spain practiced riskier sex with their regular partners than with casual pick ups.
Even a 1994 study (19) of over 600 lesbians demonstrated that "the connection between monogamy and unprotected sex,... was very consistent across interviews. Protected sex was generally equated with casual encounters; unprotected sex was generally equated with trusting relationships. Not using latex barriers was seen as a step in the process of relational commitment. Choosing to have unprotected sex indicated deepening trust and intimacy as the relationship grew."
Why is homosexual marriage a health hazard?
While married people pledge and generally live up to their vows of sexual faithfulness, participants in both gay and lesbian "marriages" offer each other something quite different. They see shared biological intimacy and sexual risk-taking as the hallmark of trust and commitment. Being exposed in this way to the bodily discharges of their partner increases the risk of disease, especially so if that partner was 'married' to someone else before or engaged in sex with others outside the relationship.

The evidence is strong that both gays and lesbians are more apt to take biological risks when having sex with a partner than when having casual sex. The evidence is also strong that gays disproportionately contract more disease, especially AIDS and the various forms of hepatitis, from sex with "partners" than they do from sex with strangers. There is also some evidence (20) that gays with partners are more apt to die of both AIDS and non-AIDS conditions than those without partners.

Like gays, 'married' lesbians are more apt to engage in biological intimacy and risk-taking. However, there is insufficient evidence to conclude whether disease or death rates are higher for partnered or unpartnered lesbians.

Fact #3: Homosexual marriage has the highest rate of domestic violence.
Domestic violence is a public health concern. Among heterosexuals, not only is it an obvious marker of a troubled marriage, but media attention and tax dollars to aid 'battered women' have both grown tremendously in recent years. What is not reported is the empirical evidence suggesting that homosexual couples have higher rates of domestic violence than do heterosexual couples, especially among lesbians.

In 1996, (21) Susan Holt, coordinator of the domestic violence unit of the Los Angeles Gay Lesbian Center, said that "domestic violence is the third largest health problem facing the gay and lesbian community today and trails only behind AIDS and substance abuse... in terms of sheer numbers and lethality."

The average rate of domestic violence in traditional marriage, established by a nationwide federal government survey (22) of 6,779 married couples in 1988, is apparently less than 5% per year. During their most recent year of marriage, 2.0% of husbands and 3.2% of wives said that they were hit, shoved or had things thrown at them. Unmarried, cohabiting heterosexuals report (23) higher rates of violence, a rate of about 20% to 25% per year.

When the same standard is applied to gay and lesbian relationships, the following evidence emerges:
In 1987, (24) 48% of 43 lesbian, and 39% of 39 gay Georgia couples reported domestic violence.
In 1988,(25) 70 lesbian and gay students participated in a study of conflict resolution in gay and lesbian relationships. Adjusted upward for reporting by only one partner in the couple (i.e., "only one side of the story"), an estimated 29% of gay and 56% of lesbian couples experienced violence in the past year.
In 1989, (26) 284 lesbians were interviewed who were involved "in a committed, cohabitating lesbian relationship" during the last 6 months. Adjusted for reporting by just one partner, an estimated 43% of the relationships were violent in the past year.
In 1990, (27) nearly half of 90 lesbian couples in Los Angeles reported domestic violence yearly. 21% of these women said that they were mothers. Interestingly, of those mothers who had children living with them, 11 lived in "violent" and 11 in "nonviolent" relationships. Thus, unlike traditional marriage where parents will often forego fighting to shield the children from hostility, there was no evidence from this investigation that the presence of youngsters reduced the rate of domestic violence.
Overall, the evidence is fairly compelling that homosexual domestic violence exceeds heterosexual domestic violence. The limited scientific literature suggests that physical domestic violence occurs every year among less than 5% of traditionally married couples, 20% to 25% of cohabiting heterosexuals, and approximately half of lesbian couples. The evidence is less certain for gays, but their rate appears to fall somewhere between that for unmarried, cohabiting heterosexuals and lesbians.

Fact #4: Homosexual domestic violence is a logger problem than gay bashing.
Gay activists and the media are quick to assert that discriminatory attitudes by 'straight' society lead directly to violence against homosexuals (i.e., 'gay bashing'). In fact, evidence suggests that homosexual domestic violence substantially exceeds, in frequency and lethality, any and all forms of 'gay bashing.' That is, the violence that homosexuals do to one another is much more significant than the violence that others do to homosexuals.

In 1995, a homosexual domestic violence consortium conducted a study (28) in six cities Chicago, Columbus, Minneapolis, New York, San Diego, and San Francisco where reports of anti-homosexual harassment or same sex domestic violence were tabulated.

The harassment incidents ranged from name calling (e.g., 'faggot,' 'queer') to actual physical harm or property damage. Homosexual domestic violence, on the other hand, referred only to incidents in which actual physical harm occurred or was seriously threatened (i.e., met the legal standard for domestic violence).

The results? Nationwide, (29) as well as in these cities, around half of anti-homosexual harassment reports in 1995 involved only slurs or insults, thus not rising to the level of actual or threatened physical violence.

In San Francisco, there were 347 calls about same-sex domestic violence and 324 calls about anti-homosexual harassment. In three of the five other cities there were also more calls reporting same-sex domestic violence than anti-homosexual harassment. The same ratio was reported for the study as a whole.

Given that half of the harassment reports did not rise to the level of violence, while domestic violence meant exactly that, if the data gathered by this consortium of homosexuals corresponds to the underlying reality, the physical threat to homosexuals from same-sex domestic violence is more than twice as great as the physical threat they experience from 'the outside.'

Rather than being a 'shelter against the storms of life,' as traditional marriage is sometimes characterized, being homosexually partnered actually increases the physical dangers associated with homosexuality.

Fact #5: Homosexuals make poor parents.
Fewer than 20 empirical studies have been done on homosexual parents. These studies have been small, biased, and generally fail to address many of the traditional concerns regarding homosexual parenting. However, the limited evidence they have generated supports what common sense would expect.

The largest study, (30) and the only one based on a random sample, estimated that less than half of a percent of Americans have had a homosexual parent. Those who did were more likely to:

report having had sex with a parent,
experience homosexuality as their first sexual encounter,
be sexually molested,
become homosexual or bisexual, and
report dissatisfaction with their childhood.
The various studies, (31) added together, suggest that the children of homosexuals are at least 3 times more apt to become homosexual than children raised by the traditionally married.

Further, there is reasonable evidence, both in the empirical literature and in dozens of court cases dealing with the issue, (32) that children of homosexuals are more apt to be sexually exposed to the homosexual lifestyle and/or molested.

Finally, substantial evidence (31) suggests that children of homosexuals are more apt to doubt their own sexuality, be embarrassed by their homosexual parent(s), and be teased and taunted by their peers.

What Can We Conclude?
Homosexual marriage is a bad idea, While traditional marriage delivers benefits to its participants as well as to society, gay marriage harms everyone it touches especially homosexuals themselves. Not only does it place homosexuals at increased risk for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases, but it also subjects them to an increased threat of domestic violence and early death.

Homosexual marriage is nothing like traditional marriage. Homosexual unions are not built around lifetime commitments, nor are they good environments to raise children.

Those who support legalizing homosexual marriage include the same compassionate people who championed the right of singles to become parents. We know the results of that campaign: a third of the nation's children do not have a father. We also know that children without fathers much more often do poorly in school, get in trouble with the law, and become dysfunctional parents themselves.

It would be foolish to tamper with something as vital to personal and social health as traditional marriage in order the placate the same troubled souls that pushed for our current cultural mess.


http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet7.html

[OCA]

Is there nothing wrong with this?





Party, Play—And Pay
Multiple partners. Unprotected sex. And crystal meth. It's a deadly cocktail that has stirred new fears about the spread of HIV
Just say no: Crystal meth has been linked with unsafe sex
PRN


David J. Jefferson
Newsweek
Feb. 28 issue - It's Saturday evening in Manhattan, and three dozen men are crammed into a one-bedroom suite in an upscale hotel across from Ground Zero. After shelling out $20 apiece to the man who organized tonight's event over the Internet, the guests place their clothes in Hefty bags for safekeeping and get down to business and pleasure. A muscular man in his mid-30s sits naked on the sofa and inhales a "bump" of crystal methamphetamine. Within minutes, he's lying on the floor having unprotected sex with the host of tonight's sex party, whose sunken cheeks, swollen neck glands and distended belly betray the HIV infection he's been battling for years. In the bedroom, a dozen men, several of them sweaty, dehydrated and wired on meth, are having sex on the king-size bed. There's not a condom in sight. "It's completely suicidal, the crystal and the 'barebacking' [unprotected anal sex]," says one of two attendees who described the scene. "But there's something liberating and hot about it, too."



This is the ugly underworld of meth-fueled sex: "Party and Play," or PnP for short, as it's euphemistically called in Internet personal ads. News that a gay meth user in New York who had hundreds of unsafe sexual encounters may carry a virulent, drug-resistant strain of HIV has forced health officials and gay community leaders to take a sobering look at the growing role crystal methamphetamine is playing in the spread of AIDS. Doctors are unsure whether the new strain is an isolated case or the precursor of a deadly new wave of HIV. But it's clear that a dangerous nexus has formed between the nation's two big epidemics: AIDS and methamphetamine abuse.


The meth epidemic isn't new, nor is it just a gay problem. After exploding in the Southwest more than a decade ago, the relatively cheap drug has spread north and east; a 2003 federal study estimated that more than 12 million Americans have snorted, smoked or shot up meth at least once. But it is in the gay community that the link between crystal meth and unsafe sex is most alarming. In a study of 1,600 men who have had sex with men, conducted by the L.A. County public-health agency in 2003-04, 13 percent said they'd used meth in the previous 12 months; those respondents were twice as likely to report having had unprotected sex, and four times as likely to report being HIV-positive. And as many as three quarters of new patients diagnosed with HIV by counselors at Callen-Lorde Community Health Center in New York each month say crystal meth played a role in getting them there.

Even before crystal became commonplace in gay sex clubs and at the roving bacchanals known as circuit parties, many men had begun to let safer-sex practices slip. The arrival of retroviral cocktails in the late 1990s made HIV a chronic but manageable disease for many, but it also gave uninfected men, especially younger ones, a false sense of security. Throw meth into the mix, and safe sex goes out the window: men high on crystal are four times more likely to engage in unprotected sex as those who aren't, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The powerful stimulant leaves many users feeling euphoric and hypersexual, resulting in binges with multiple partners that can last until the user comes crashing off the drug a few days later. Because crystal causes temporary impotence for many men (some pop Viagra to counter the effect), users are more likely to be the receptive partners in unsafe sex, where the risk of contracting HIV is greatest.

Why are so many gay men tempted to play this game of Russian roulette? Hans Kindt did it for the sense of belonging—and for the sex. Arriving in San Francisco in 1994, Kindt, then 34, was just coming to terms with his homosexuality. "I had no role models. I had to find my own way. I really didn't know anything. So I asked a friend of mine, 'How do you meet guys?' He told me the way to get into anybody's pants is to give them a hit of speed." But the pleasure came with a steep price. Within a year, Kindt had lost his job, he was homeless and he was HIV-positive. "Had there been a candid, clear, honest discussion about the drug and its dangers—not the hysteria we are prone to in this country—then I think I would have listened," says Kindt, now sober and 45.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6999699/site/newsweek/

[loosecannon]

is OCA hiding in the cage and playing with himself?

[Samantha]

OCA what does crystal meth have to do with anything?

Are you a tweaker too?

[OCA]

is OCA hiding in the cage and playing with himself?

The yellowbellied coward speaks.

Loose has no credibility on the board or any subject herein.

[OCA]

OCA what does crystal meth have to do with anything?

Are you a tweaker too?

Didn't read the article did you?