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Little-Acorn
03-18-2011, 11:56 PM
Looks like the New York Times - with its readership dwindling year after year - decided to kick out those pesky political books off its famous NYT Bestsellers List. There is no truth to the rumor that this was because the only political books that could make the bestsellers list, were conservative ones - seems that no one wants to buy the liberal books. Nope, that had nothing to do with it. The Times is kicking ALL political books off, not just the conservative ones, can't you see?

Sort of the way that, back in the 1800s, the North-dominated Congress kept passing huge taxes on items like sorghum, rice, and cotton, some up to 50% of sale value. In obediance to the Constitution, these taxes were applied equally across the country, north AND south. The fact that the vast bulk of those crops were grown in the South, had nothing to do with it, nope, nothing at all.

This was one of the main causes of the Civil War, second to slavery. If there had been no slavery, this might have been enough by itself to trigger secession and the resulting war... but now we'll never know.

Now the New York Times, in its lofty ignorance, seems destined to repeat history.

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http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/ny-times-disses-fox-news-authors-%e2%80%93-best-sellers-list-is-now-politicized-conservatives-need-not-apply/#more-2710

NY TIMES DISSES FOX NEWS AUTHORS - BEST SELLERS LIST IS NOW POLITICIZED: CONSERVATIVES NEED NOT APPLY

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
March 16, 2011

It's been widely reported that Bill Keller, the Executive Editor of The New York Times, doesn't like Fox News - and has utter contempt for its conservative audience. He makes no bones about it. According to Keller, those who watch FoxNews are "among the most cynical people on planet Earth."

Now it turns out that he doesn't like books written by FoxNews contributors. So on Sunday -for the first time since the New York Times Bestsellers List first appeared in 1942, best selling political books will not appear in the Hardcover Non-Fiction List. Instead, those books will be relegated to the Advice, How-To and Miscellaneous List, along with The 4 Hour Body and Weight Watchers New Cookbook.

That is if the author is a FoxNews contributor.

Talk about giving cynicism a new meaning!

On Sunday, the following books will appear on the Advice list:

2. Simple Government, Mike Huckabee

3. Revolt!, Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

6. Win, Frank Luntz

What do those authors have in common? Just one thing: Huckabee, Morris, &Luntz are all FoxNews contributors. (McGann is just a cynical FoxNews watcher!)

Last week, the Wall Street Journal listed Simple Government as #3 and Revolt! As #5 bestselling non-fiction books in the country (including Advice books!). That was based on Nielsen point-of-sale data. But, that was too much for The Times - two FoxNews contributors in the top 10 of all non-fiction books sold. So, The Times decided to cook the list.

By the way, the Advice List was started in 1984 because too many how-to books were showing up on the Hardcover Non-Fiction Best Sellers List.

Apparently, too many Fox News Contributors are crowding up the hardcover best seller list, so they've been thrown downstairs.

The ghettoization of the Foxnews books inside the How To list has an important impact on sales. It means that many stores won't put Revolt!, Simple Government, and Win up front with the best sellers but will assign them shelf space back with cookbooks, marital advice, and diet books. We hope you ferret them out anyway and show the Times the limits of its power.

The New York Times is once again showing its liberal bias in overtly politicizing the best sellers list. Conservatives and FoxNews commentators need not apply. Now, it's not just the news that's way over left, it's the best sellers, too.

And the motto of The Times is "All the News That's Fit To Print." Talk about cynical.


(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL)

Thunderknuckles
03-19-2011, 02:07 AM
Pfft, they're entitled to print and suggest what they want.

fj1200
03-19-2011, 04:12 AM
Don't you know that conservative screeds don't count as literature anyway? :laugh:

Little-Acorn
03-19-2011, 04:07 PM
Pfft, they're entitled to print and suggest what they want.

Yep, and lose what little reputation they had as an even-handed news organ, accordingly.

revelarts
03-20-2011, 10:59 AM
They kick Cristian books off there bestseller list over a decade ago, if i remember the timing.

"The New York Times Favorite Sorta High Sellers List "

is what it ought to be called.
It's not a true publishing's top sellers list.

It's closer to Opra's book club than a top seller list.

Psychoblues
03-24-2011, 12:10 AM
Who cares what lies Dick Morris might say to make excuses for the poor sales of his ridiculous "How to Defeat the Democrats" books. It appears to me that everything is status quo at NYT about NYT non-fiction hard cover best sellers list except that the "how to" books like Dick and Newt like to write will be assigned to the "How To" lists which is where they should have been from the get go. They are still listed according to their published sales figures and that brings up another subject for another thread.

Psychochoblues

fj1200
03-24-2011, 07:11 AM
Who cares what lies Dick Morris might say to make excuses for the poor sales of his ridiculous "How to Defeat the Democrats" books.

But he was a cool guy when he was getting a ridiculous Dem POTUS reelected?

Abbey Marie
03-27-2011, 01:58 PM
Pfft, they're entitled to print and suggest what they want.

Refusing to place books on your Best Sellers List, that are verifiable as Best-Sellers, is now characterized as a "suggestion"?

No, you are not entitled to print a best sellers list, leave the best-sellers off, and still call it a best sellers list. But then again, when did the NYT ever let the truth get in the away of a good story?

The partisanship of this so-called newspaper is gagifying.

Abbey Marie
03-27-2011, 02:03 PM
Gee, I wonder what the NYT will do when O"Hussein write his memoirs, should they actually sell well.

My prediction is they will find some excuse to put it back on the regular non-fiction bests sellers list. :rolleyes:

Psychoblues
03-27-2011, 02:45 PM
Gee, I wonder what the NYT will do when O"Hussein write his memoirs, should they actually sell well.

My prediction is they will find some excuse to put it back on the regular non-fiction bests sellers list. :rolleyes:

It's rather clear that you didn't read the article or that you did and now wish to misrepresent it to the enth degree. Leaving your points and arguments so open to clear and complete refutation is not indicative to reasonable thinking on your part.

The NYT is not kicking "conservative" books off it's best sellers list. It is moving "how to" best seller books into the "how to" best seller section. The numbers remain the same. People like me are not interested in Dick Morris' "How To Defeat The Democrats" or James Carvilles' books on "How To Defeat The Republicans". I also don't want "How To Paint Pretty Pictures" screwing up the list I most depend on for non fiction knowledge and entertainment.

I don't believe for a second that the NYT's lost you as a customer due to this change. But, they may gain a few.

Psychochoblues

fj1200
03-27-2011, 07:31 PM
But, they may gain a few.

:rolleyes: I don't suspect that will show up in the circulation numbers.