Washington State to Penalize Electric Car Owners

[red states rule]

This is great!! Maybe now the treehuggers will see they are being played for fools and cash cows







http://biggovernment.com/files/2011/04/electric-vehicle-in-london.jpg

Some people think that marriage is the most absurd institution ever invented by man. But those that think so are ignoring what is truly the most idiotic, paradoxically absurd practice in all of human history: government. Yeah, yeah, necessary evil and all, but still there is nothing that exemplifies human folly better than politics and Washington State has uncorked a doozie for us.

From coast to coast and all over the world liberals are mindlessly going gaga for green. Anything that smacks of greenism is, with religious fervor, promoted and revered. The electric automobile, for instance, is one of the left’s dream modes of transportation. Pursuant to that dreamy green dream, liberals have made sure that all sort of tax breaks are lavished upon those citizens who dutifully jump up to their necks into the unprofitable and technologically untested world of electric cars. Washington State is no exception to this mania.

… and hilarity ensues.

The Associated Press is even a bit snarky about the whole mess.

After years of urging residents to buy fuel-efficient cars and giving them tax breaks to do it, Washington state lawmakers are considering a measure to charge them a $100 annual fee — what would be the nation’s first electric car fee.

Yes, that’s right. After giving them tax breaks to waste their money on electric cars, now Washington State wants to raise new taxes on those very same buyers. If that isn’t a bait and switch, what is?


The priests of greenism have their hearts go all aflutter when they imagine that driving green cars will rid the earth of that most evilist of all energies, oil. Gasoline would be unnecessary, we are told, if everyone had energizer bunnies under the hood.

But what does that mean, infrastructure fans? Yes, that’s right, with everyone in electric cars no one is buying gasoline and paying that high gas tax so that cities, counties, states and the federal government have more of our money to waste on vital catfish safety programs and other highly important government matters.

Isn’t it just like government to have brilliant ideas like giving away tax money as a faux stimulus to spur people to do something only for government to then turn around and tax the hell out of it later?

The government giveth and the government taketh away. And what is hurt? Everything. People who bought electric cars feel gypped for doing so and then being given a bait and switch tax . Those in the future won’t buy them to avoid the tax. And, voila, the action the government wanted to spur is DOA, the industry that the government pretended it was helping out goes down the tubes, and the religious tenets of greenism are left unobserved. Oh, the humanities.

http://biggovernment.com/wthuston/2011/04/24/paradox-green-loving-washington-state-about-to-penalize-electric-car-owners/

[fj1200]

They have to pay for the roads somehow.

[red states rule]

They have to pay for the roads somehow.

With libs GOVERNMENT will never go without

This is another example of people doing what the left tells them to do, and the people end up getting screwed over

With the amount of money the government takes in for "roads" the streets and freeways should be paved in 24K gold

[Monkeybone]

I will look it up, but there is another state that is testing out the mileage tracker. Since cars are getting more fuel eficent or independent, they want to tax you on how many miles you drive on the road.

[fj1200]

I will look it up, but there is another state that is testing out the mileage tracker. Since cars are getting more fuel eficent or independent, they want to tax you on how many miles you drive on the road.

Oregon, the greenies are all ticked off about it not to mention the privacy intrusions that will be necessary to track mileage.

[fj1200]

With libs GOVERNMENT will never go without

This is another example of people doing what the left tells them to do, and the people end up getting screwed over

With the amount of money the government takes in for "roads" the streets and freeways should be paved in 24K gold

Two different issues; the necessary collection of funds for road maintenance/construction and your perception of how efficiently Washington spends road dollars.

[revelarts]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

that's Hilarious.

GOv't isn't THAT concerned about green issues. Enough people have been sniping about it to get the politicians moving BUT WAIT a MINUTE THis green Crap can't mess with the GOv't REVENUE!!
Green is nice an all but TAXES, that's too important to be trifled with.
i mean

give gov't your money ( or else) so your gov't can provide and protect you, properly.

money's green, gov't just want's to be green folks
:laugh::laugh:

[darin]

...coming from people who elect government that does THIS:

- seattle city water started pumping out "Conserve water! we're low!!" and "Conserve for our kids' sake!" and all that. City reduced water consumption by double-percentage points. Then, City water went to the city gov't asking for a rate increase because "the conservation had 'cost' them money because people were not buying as much water". City gov't approved the increase in rates.

[red states rule]

Two different issues; the necessary collection of funds for road maintenance/construction and your perception of how efficiently Washington spends road dollars.

Not a perception - a fact

When you add up the amonut of money taken in via the gas tax, and tolls they have more then enough money to maintain the roads

Not to mention the FEDERAL dollars they get for the roads

Bottom line is, the greenies are getting the shaft from the liberals and I wonder what they will do about it

In MD the Dems are whining about a "loss" in revenue because people are driving less and some want a 15 cent increase in the state gas tax

People are fired up and perhaps MD might become a red state given the arrogance of these libs

[Thunderknuckles]

...coming from people who elect government that does THIS:

- seattle city water started pumping out "Conserve water! we're low!!" and "Conserve for our kids' sake!" and all that. City reduced water consumption by double-percentage points. Then, City water went to the city gov't asking for a rate increase because "the conservation had 'cost' them money because people were not buying as much water". City gov't approved the increase in rates.
Crazy. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[red states rule]

Crazy. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

From what I have seen, anytime you listen to liberals you end up getting screwed

[fj1200]

Not a perception - a fact

An opinion, regardless of if they have enough money or not if a significant portion of the population starts using less of a taxable good then tax revenues will decline. Just because libs aren't good at visualizing unseen costs doesn't mean that they won't need to catch up eventually.

[red states rule]

An opinion, regardless of if they have enough money or not if a significant portion of the population starts using less of a taxable good then tax revenues will decline. Just because libs aren't good at visualizing unseen costs doesn't mean that they won't need to catch up eventually.

"visualizing unseen costs"?

How could anyone with an IQ above room temp think that tax revenues will increase with less activity?

It is common sense that if the government wants ts tax an activity the government needs to ENCOURAGE that activity and not make it more expensive

Everything the left has done is DISCOURAGE people from driving and using more gas. They block new drilling and oil exploration, they harass oil companies when they want to drill, place new and expensive regulations on them - and then as the price of oil increases they blame the oil companies

This is what libs have wanted for years. High gas prices so they can push their stupid green agenda and continue to pick the pockets of the people and even their own foolish and gullible followers

It is like when job numbers come out and the liberal media "report" the story that unemployment "unexpectedly" went up. Unexpected by whom? Not the folks who live in the real world

[fj1200]

How could anyone with an IQ above room temp think that tax revenues will increase with less activity?

They're libs, that's how. Like I said, they don't think it through either because they don't want to or don't know it.


It is common snse that if the government wants ts tax an activity the government needs to ENCOURAGE that activity and not make it more expensive

That's why they offer tax breaks for buying hybrids/electric.

[red states rule]

They're libs, that's how. Like I said, they don't think it through either because they don't want to or don't know it.



That's why they offer tax breaks for buying hybrids/electric.

The government should not be giving tax breaks for them at all. If libs were consistent (which I know is laughable) they would oppose them like they do tax breaks for "Big Oil"

[Joe Steel]

This is great!! Maybe now the treehuggers will see they are being played for fools and cash cows

What a desperately stupid article. Of course, electric vehicles owers will have contribute to the costs of the roads they used...and, unlike Conservatives, they'll be glad to pay their own way.

[red states rule]

What a desperately stupid article. Of course, electric vehicles owers will have contribute to the costs of the roads they used...and, unlike Conservatives, they'll be glad to pay their own way.

Why Joe? the libs are whining how GAS TAX revenues are low. What does that have to do with the suckers who bought electric cracker boxes?

Of course as I said before - government NEVER goes without

Now the liberal treehugger suckers are finding that out first hand

[Joe Steel]

Why Joe? the libs are whining how GAS TAX revenues are low. What does that have to do with the suckers who bought electric cracker boxes?

Obviously, electric car users contribute to the problem but, being loyal Americans, they're willing to pay for the roads they use. That's the way Progessives are.

[fj1200]

What a desperately stupid article. Of course, electric vehicles owers will have contribute to the costs of the roads they used...and, unlike Conservatives, they'll be glad to pay their own way.

What a desperately stupid post.

[fj1200]

The government should not be giving tax breaks for them at all.

They're trying to control a negative externality; higher gas taxes would be more efficient, economically speaking, but this is what we get.


If libs were consistent (which I know is laughable) they would oppose them like they do tax breaks for "Big Oil"

I happen to think they are being consistent, they like to use government action to advance the causes that they favor.

[LuvRPgrl]

What a desperately stupid article. Of course, electric vehicles owers will have contribute to the costs of the roads they used...and, unlike Conservatives, they'll be glad to pay their own way.

If you are so GLAD to give your money to an inept govt, then give them even more than they ask for !!

[LuvRPgrl]

Obviously, electric car users contribute to the problem but, being loyal Americans, they're willing to pay for the roads they use. That's the way Progessives are.

Oh oh, he just pulled out the "conservatives aren't loyal Americans " card, everybody run for the hills, RUN !!!

[Joe Steel]

Oh oh, he just pulled out the "conservatives aren't loyal Americans " card, everybody run for the hills, RUN !!!

Of course Conservatives aren't loyal Americans. They readily admit they're personal interests are more important than the general welfare.

[fj1200]

Of course Conservatives aren't loyal Americans. They readily admit they're personal interests are more important than the general welfare.

I'm pretty sure you couldn't win an argument against your own straw man.

[revelarts]

Of course Conservatives aren't loyal Americans. They readily admit they're personal interests are more important than the general welfare.

General welfare as defined by many on left, yes Joe that's true.

Are you broad minded enough to believe that other peoples views of "general welfare" might be different? Maybe even make some sense. Or are other views somehow Immoral? Immoral in an absolute sense. truly WRONG that is?

[LuvRPgrl]

Of course Conservatives aren't loyal Americans. They readily admit they're personal interests are more important than the general welfare.

And????????

[Joe Steel]

General welfare as defined by many on left, yes Joe that's true.

Are you broad minded enough to believe that other peoples views of "general welfare" might be different? Maybe even make some sense. Or are other views somehow Immoral? Immoral in an absolute sense. truly WRONG that is?

Of course Conservatives have a different understanding of the general welfare. Could they be as evil if they didn't?

[revelarts]

Of course Conservatives have a different understanding of the general welfare. Could they be as evil if they didn't?
Evil Joe?
Well Joe,
Abortion is Evil but that doesn't seem to bother many on the left.
Many consider it a Right, A right to do evil.

seems we have different views of right and wrong, good or evil.
Not sure why the left considers the murdering of babies a justifiable evil But people Keeping more of their own money an intolerable evil.

And it seems Most Liberals don't think War is evil unless the Conservatives start them so that that doesn't really count. Or does it? Is Hypocrisy evil?

[LuvRPgrl]

Evil Joe?
Well Joe,
Abortion is Evil but that doesn't seem to bother many on the left.
Many consider it a Right, A right to do evil.

seems we have different views of right and wrong, good or evil.
Not sure why the left considers the murdering of babies a justifiable evil But people Keeping more of their own money an intolerable evil.

And it seems Most Liberals don't think War is evil unless the Conservatives start them so that that doesn't really count. Or does it? Is Hypocrisy evil?

If you view the liberals posistions that their driving motive is "control", you will see why they support what they do. Its all about control for them, they think they knowjj whats best for everyone.

They consider peoples desire for freedom to be an evil self serving thing.

They gain control of what kind of cars people buy, by offering financial incentives, then they turn around and gain control of the supposed savings, by taxing it back into their own coffers, its a double win for them
Then they convolute reality to conform to their version of reality, this way they can justify their lust for control

[Little-Acorn]

Of course Conservatives aren't loyal Americans. They readily admit they're personal interests are more important than the general welfare.

In other words, they agree with the Constitution???

Say it ain't so!!!