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red states rule
04-27-2011, 03:22 AM
Libs are going to have to do alot better then this. Several libs were indeed planted at the Town Hall to try and stop it

Then a failed host from the failed Air America netowrk has taken out to the delight of the crowd

The crowd was against her and for Allen West, and she acted "shocked" when she was arrested by the Police

Libs are on the defense and 2012 is going to fun folks

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CSM
04-27-2011, 05:46 AM
Some folks have "honor, character and integrity" and some folks don't even know the meaning of those words.

revelarts
04-27-2011, 07:02 AM
While the people were rude and disruptive, This is not that much different from the other Town Hall meetings during the Health Care Debate.
People were just as loud. Just against the Dems. I'm not sure why this arrest is good and the conservatives who shouted were just letting their representative know whats what.

Can someone explain to me what the difference is here, other than the content of the complaints.


Freedom of speech should go both ways shouldn't it?

Gaffer
04-27-2011, 08:11 AM
While the people were rude and disruptive, This is not that much different from the other Town Hall meetings during the Health Care Debate.
People were just as loud. Just against the Dems. I'm not sure why this arrest is good and the conservatives who shouted were just letting their representative know whats what.

Can someone explain to me what the difference is here, other than the content of the complaints.


Freedom of speech should go both ways shouldn't it?

Is heckling truly freedom of speech, or is it just preventing someone else from excersizing their freedom of speech?

revelarts
04-27-2011, 08:30 AM
Is heckling truly freedom of speech, or is it just preventing someone else from excersizing their freedom of speech?

What was it during the Health care town halls Gaffer?

Kathianne
04-27-2011, 08:34 AM
What was it during the Health care town halls Gaffer?

For the most part it was not heckling, though those representatives that walked away from their constituents questions attempted to portray the town halls as such. Were there a few that shouted and didn't listen? Of course, but not in the main and easily found on youtube.

Gaffer
04-27-2011, 11:10 AM
What was it during the Health care town halls Gaffer?

In answer to your question, the townhalls about health care were people asking their reps to explain the bill and why they were voting for it. They were questioning. This video shows nothing more than heckling the speaker in order to disrupt the event.

Your turn to answer my question.

red states rule
04-27-2011, 04:27 PM
What was it during the Health care town halls Gaffer?

I will give you a couple of examples of what the left termed "heckling"

First Sen Spector saying Obamcare neded to be passed FAST

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Specter - I don't get paid any extra paid to talk to you

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This Texas Dem loses his temper at a person who called him on CBO numbers

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Need more?

Al Gore's amazing internet has them!!!!

red states rule
04-29-2011, 03:31 AM
Once again, libs showed up at another Allen West town hall not to talk to Mr West but to disrupt




Several Tossed From Congressman's Town Hall Meeting
Heated Debate Stems From West's Position On Medicaid

BOCA RATON, Fla. -- Police escorted a number of people out of a town hall meeting Wednesday night -- the second night in a row that U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Fla., held what became a heated event.

"I think they're a bunch of jerks," said Anne Dion after police walked her outside. "That's what I think about being forced to leave."

Trouble was brewing even before the event started. Sign-carrying protesters were asked to leave private property.

West warned the crowd about lashing out.

"You see a lot of media cameras, and the media's here because they want to see a show," he said.

The warning did not stop supporters and critics from turning up the volume.

"I don't care who's yelling at me, cursing at me or saying whatever," said West. "You are still in America."

West's critics and supporters attended the event.

"I feel like the country's going down the tubes, and if we don't have somebody that does something about it, we're all in trouble," said supporter Karl Hotaling.

During the public question segment, Medicare proved to be a controversial topic.

"I don't think Medicare should be eliminated," said protester David Torgersen. "I think it should be there when people need it."

Recently, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee launched automated telephone calls that attack West for claims he voted to end Medicare. His staff said he voted on the House Republican budget proposal, which calls for changes to Medicare.

"If you support Medicare the way it is now, then kiss the United States of America goodbye," said West.

For the video go to

http://www.wpbf.com/politics/27697577/detail.html

revelarts
04-29-2011, 08:00 AM
SO the You guys are Judging the VOLUME of Heckling.

Freedom of speech as long as your volume and timing is better.
Got it.
How dare they interrupt the speaker, It's criminal.
Improper Questions/comments out the door with you?
I don't think so folks.


"Don't taze me Bro?"

revelarts
04-29-2011, 08:11 AM
Is heckling truly freedom of speech, or is it just preventing someone else from excersizing their freedom of speech?

Depends, If the Hecklers is Unrelenting and truly not allowing the person to speak from start to finish sure.

We don't have much context for the incident here.

A couple of ill mannered comments in a 40 minute talk I'd consider free speech. Impolite but certainly not necessarily an Ejectable or arrestable offense ESPECIALLY if your a citizen from the district trying to get a word in at Public forum where Citizens have been INVITED.

Are People always suppose to sit and listen quietly to Das Leaders at these things?

LuvRPgrl
04-29-2011, 01:16 PM
While the people were rude and disruptive, This is not that much different from the other Town Hall meetings during the Health Care Debate.
People were just as loud. Just against the Dems. I'm not sure why this arrest is good and the conservatives who shouted were just letting their representative know whats what.

Can someone explain to me what the difference is here, other than the content of the complaints.


Freedom of speech should go both ways shouldn't it?

I would need an example of the other disturbances you are talking ab0out in order to be able to make the comparision

LuvRPgrl
04-29-2011, 01:26 PM
Depends, If the Hecklers is Unrelenting and truly not allowing the person to speak from start to finish sure.

We don't have much context for the incident here.

A couple of ill mannered comments in a 40 minute talk I'd consider free speech. Impolite but certainly not necessarily an Ejectable or arrestable offense ESPECIALLY if your a citizen from the district trying to get a word in at Public forum where Citizens have been INVITED.

Are People always suppose to sit and listen quietly to Das Leaders at these things?


The examples RSR provided show nothing at all in terms of heckling to stop a person from talking. Thats the difference

red states rule
04-29-2011, 04:34 PM
Depends, If the Hecklers is Unrelenting and truly not allowing the person to speak from start to finish sure.

We don't have much context for the incident here.

A couple of ill mannered comments in a 40 minute talk I'd consider free speech. Impolite but certainly not necessarily an Ejectable or arrestable offense ESPECIALLY if your a citizen from the district trying to get a word in at Public forum where Citizens have been INVITED.

Are People always suppose to sit and listen quietly to Das Leaders at these things?

The difference Tea Party candidates like Allan West WELCOME the chance to speak to the voters

Dems find it a huge inconvenience to meet with the voters and try to defend Obamacare when a majorioty of the voters were opposed to it

Dems came acroos as arrogant and condescending and did not have any Patience with being put on the spot with direct questions and having to deal with voters telling them they did not want Obamacare

Meanwhile we have the voters showing their outrage with Paul Ryan and his budget plan for cutting spending (at kleast according to the liberal media) by giving him a stand "O"

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