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chloe
07-30-2011, 12:01 AM
A polygamist sect leader defending himself against sexual assault charges broke his silence Friday with a 55-minute sermon defending plural marriages as divine and later said God would visit "sickness and death" on those involved if his trial wasn't immediately stopped.

Warren Jeffs, 55, could face life in prison if he's convicted of sexually assaulting two underage girls. He has been representing himself since he fired his high-powered lawyers Thursday, but he made no opening statement and spent hours sitting alone at the defense table staring into space in silence while prosecutors made their case.
On Friday, however, the ecclesiastical head of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints suddenly cried "I object!" as FBI agent John Broadway testified about seizing eight desktop computers and 120 boxes and large folders of documents from the church's remote compound in West Texas in 2008.

"There is sacred trust given to religious leadership not to be touched by government agencies," said Jeffs, who leads an offshoot of mainstream Mormonism that believes polygamy brings exaltation in heaven. The sect's 10,000 members see Jeffs as a prophet who speaks for God on Earth.

Jeffs then launched into a lengthy defense of polygamy, but Walther eventually overruled his objection. She said court rules prohibited him from testifying while objecting but she let him go on at length because he hadn't offered an opening statement.

Jeffs then said he had no choice but to read a statement from God. Walther dismissed the jury and allowed him to read it.
"I, the Lord God of heaven," Jeffs read, "call upon the court to cease this open prosecution against my pure, holy way."
If the trial continues, the statement said, "I will send a scourge upon the counties of prosecutorial zeal to make humbled by sickness and death."
Jeffs has frequently said the charges against him are the work of over-zealous prosecutors.
Walther responded to the statement by telling Jeffs he could not threaten the jury.

"If you call for their destruction," she said, "or in any way say that they will be injured or damaged because of their service, you will be removed from the courtroom."

During afternoon testimony from Broadway and other witnesses who detailed documents seized from the FLDS compound, Jeffs objected so much that Walther eventually had a bailiff remove his microphones.

It was a sharp contrast to his earlier silence and halting speech. When answering questions from Walther earlier in the week, Jeffs usually paused for a full minute or two and then spoke in slow, deliberate tones interrupted by long, awkward pauses. But his words flowed freely Friday.
Jeffs, who is schedule for trial on bigamy charges in October, said his church has practiced polygamy for five generations and believes it is the will of God, who is a higher power than courts, state legislatures and the U.S. Congress.

"We are not a fly-by-night religious society . . . We are a community of faith and principles and those principles are so sacred. They belong to God, not to man and the governments of man," Jeffs said. He also noted that polygamy "is not of a sudden happening, it is of a tradition in our lives. And how can we just throw it away and say `God has not spoken?'"
Jeffs said FLDS members believe adhering to God's will, as stated by prophets like himself, is the only way to achieve eternal life in "Zion," or heaven.

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chloe
07-30-2011, 12:02 AM
I would have no problem with polygamy, I still don't understand why it's illegal.

logroller
07-30-2011, 01:23 AM
I would have no problem with polygamy, I still don't understand why it's illegal.

if they're legal adults, I'm with you. I don't care either. But there is a long history of underage girls married into polygamy, especially to the prophets and other church elders in religious sects. This is exemplary of how the traditions surrounding marriage have become antiquated, demonstrating nothing more than an assertion of power over a people under the color of celestial or religious authority. I can't fathom how a 16 yr old girl has the mental capacity to decide being the umpteenth wife of a 50 year old man is what she wants. I think she's told that's what she supposed to do or face excommunication from family and church. Jeffs is going to prison-- and not because he's a polygamist, but because he's a fraud and a rapist; and he'll see what its like to be dominated by a power hungry husband. Maybe he'll go to heaven, but he's gonna go through hell first!

Kathianne
07-30-2011, 02:11 AM
If all are over 18 and no coercion, state should but out.

ConHog
07-30-2011, 11:39 AM
Falls in the same category as gay marriage as far as I'm concerned. If everyone involved is a legal adult, then let them do what they want. Get government out of marriage. If some church wants to allow a man to have 14 wives, let them. Now I have to seriously question the judgement of any man who actually wants more than one wife, but we have the right to exercise bad judgement in this country, don't we?

chloe
07-30-2011, 03:40 PM
Falls in the same category as gay marriage as far as I'm concerned. If everyone involved is a legal adult, then let them do what they want. Get government out of marriage. If some church wants to allow a man to have 14 wives, let them. Now I have to seriously question the judgement of any man who actually wants more than one wife, but we have the right to exercise bad judgement in this country, don't we?

polys live off the welfare system because the wives and there tons of kids ain't recognized as having a husband, if they want to marry fine but pay your own bills and don't use my taxes to pay for you kids and wives.

ConHog
07-30-2011, 03:46 PM
polys live off the welfare system because the wives and there tons of kids ain't recognized as having a husband, if they want to marry fine but pay your own bills and don't use my taxes to pay for you kids and wives.



Doesn't matter if they are married or not. When you apply for welfare you have to list everyone who lives in the household and proof of income for all adults. Now if you're saying that one huband , 4 wives, 12 kids and only the husband has income so they get a shit load of welfare, I agree with you that that isn't right, but that applies whether they are "married" or not.