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J.T
08-21-2011, 08:31 PM
This deliberately falsified narrative surrounds a purported Hamas broadcast that declared an end to the ceasefire that was declared post-Cast Lead in 2009, the operation in which Israel systematically slaughtered Palestinian civilians.

Amnesty International characterized Operation Cast Lead as “22 Days of Death and Destruction (http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/MDE15/015/2009/en)” and Hamas is more than aware of the fact that Israel would relish the ability to conduct another operation in the same vein.

While Hamas militants have not taken responsibility for any of the rocket attacks and have, in fact, been arresting suspected militants, Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/19/us-palestinians-israel-idUSTRE77I14920110819)published that, “A Hamas radio announced the group’s armed had decided 'there is no longer any truce with the enemy,' alluding to a 2009 that ended a three week Israeli offensive targeting militants firing rockets at the Jewish state.”



When they acknowledge the fact that an official spokesperson for the Qassam brigades, the military arm of Hamas, completely denied Hamas support for this statement (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/08/2011819141058600852.html) they spin it by characterizing the official as “an apparent attempt to ease tensions later”.

Apparently a broadcast on a purported Hamas station is a completely and authoritative source, even when it is directly contradicted by the official party leadership.
http://http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/rothschild-reuters-and-jerusalem-post.html


<abbr class="published" title="2011-08-21"></abbr> Three days after the attacks by gunmen outside Eilat in southern Israel, what do we know about the identities of the gunmen? Almost nothing.
In the mainstream media they are blithely referred to as “Palestinian gunmen (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/20/world/middleeast/20egypt.html)” yet so far the only basis for this description is the unsubstantiated word of Israeli officials. Those officials have provided no real evidence to back up their claims.
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The Israeli Defense Forces spokesperson refused to endorse Netanyahu’s assertion (http://warincontext.org/2011/08/20/israeli-army-hasnt-the-faintest-idea-who-launched-the-eliat-attacks/) about the PRC role and the only “proof” of Palestinian involvement the IDF presented was the use of Kalashnikovs — as though 100 million Kalashnikovs, 20% of the firearms available on the planet, are now stockpiled in Gaza!
What other evidence is there about the gunmen? They were wearing Egyptian military uniforms.
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Meanwhile, Hamas has once again agreed to take the lead in enforcing a ceasefire with Israel (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hamas-gaza-militant-groups-agree-to-cease-fire-with-israel-1.379852).



http://warincontext.org/2011/08/21/israels-security-strategy-when-in-doubt-hit-gaza/


At issue now is whether the August 18 bus and other attacks inside Israel were committed by external elements or Israel, and if so, why?
Also at issue always is cui bono? In fact, Hamas and various Palestinian resistance groups have nothing to gain. Clearly Israel benefits greatly at least two ways:
(1) The upcoming September UN General Assembly vote on Palestinian self-determination Israel very much wants to derail.
(2) Weeks of nationwide internal social justice protests Netanyahu also wants to diffuse and end.
Both are compelling reasons for employing tried and true tactics - change the subject by diverting public attention.



http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/095101-2011-08-21-another-israeli-false-flag.htm

And we give them our full support as a matter of national policy...

Sir Evil
08-21-2011, 08:33 PM
:stupid:


:gives:

ConHog
08-22-2011, 06:08 PM
Now how did I know that this thread was started by the resident troll?

abso
08-31-2011, 05:29 AM
what i have learnt about this forum so far, is that when you post anything against israel, no one listens, and no one is ready to discuss anything you post from a logical point of view, they just dismiss all you post as propaganda and rubbish, and they also insult you, try posting this on another forum, in which you may find reasonable people, but around here, its rare to find reasonable people.


btw, try posting anything against Obama or arabs or muslims, be it true or false, then just sit back and count the number of Thanks :D

red states rule
08-31-2011, 05:39 AM
what i have learnt about this forum so far, is that when you post anything against israel, no one listens, and no one is ready to discuss anything you post from a logical point of view, they just dismiss all you post as propaganda and rubbish, and they also insult you, try posting this on another forum, in which you may find reasonable people, but around here, its rare to find reasonable people.


btw, try posting anything against Obama or arabs or muslims, be it true or false, then just sit back and count the number of Thanks :D

Gee, should we feel bad we do not all agree with the #1 goal of most of the Middle East to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth?

I konw the folks in Israel piss people like you off by breathing, and your only solution is to bomb such vital military targets like pizza shops and street markets

abso
08-31-2011, 06:07 AM
Gee, should we feel bad we do not all agree with the #1 goal of most of the Middle East to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth?

I konw the folks in Israel piss people like you off by breathing, and your only solution is to bomb such vital military targets like pizza shops and street markets

#1 I didn't say you have to agree, but you should debate with reason not with sarcasm.

#2 disagreeing with someone doesn't mean you have to see him wrong all the time and doesn't mean you are right all the time, so always debate wisely.

#3 I have always said that i have no quarrel with american people, and i wish for none to die, be it jewish or christian or muslim, and i disagree with bombing any civilians in all parts of the world very much including israel.


Finally:
JT didn't post anything wrong to be insulted or laughed at, he didn't even post anything offensive towards anyone around here, he merely posted a point of view, that maybe valid or maybe invalid, but everyone who read the article just ignored his post or replied with sarcasm so logical analysis of the situation leads us only to two possibilities:

#1 Everyone who read the article and saw it as a wrong opinion was so ignorant to reply logically with any other point of view or evidence that JT point of view is invalid.
#2 Everyone who read the article have seen JT point of view as a valid one and couldn't reply with any counter evidence because there is none.