red states rule
09-22-2011, 05:38 PM
We all know Virgil wished me death several times, and laughed about my cancer treatments; we know the digusting sexual insults he has leveled at female posters; now I am sharing this PM I got while posting on another board
I want to make it clear the authoir does NOT post here but I sharing this since Virgil seem to want to paint himsl;ef as a victim of right wing hate
WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC EMAIL READ WITH CAUTION
If you hear about it from Damo or Grind, it sounds as if this were some 'mutual' squabble between MM and myself, which just got out of control, and that was never the case. I will chronicle the events as they happened and let you decide. I already know what I think, and I believe Damo, Grind, and others, are being deliberately more 'fair' to MM than he deserves.
On the old Politics.com forum, and on the FullPolitics.com forum, one of the main rivalries was that of MM and myself. We often had very heated and intricate debates over a host of 'left/right' issues. Virgil is a smart guy, he knows a great deal, and his ability to form a believable argument from any perspective, is astounding. One example is this... We were debating the details of John Kerry's 1971 testimony over Vietnam, where he admitted to burning down villages and bore witness to electrical shocking of genitalia on enemy POW's. My argument was, this amounted to "war crimes" on the part of Kerry, for one, participating in such acts, and two, for not immediately reporting such things to his superiors. Well, of course, MM argued in favor of Kerry, citing his superior knowledge of the Geneva Convention, and maintaining Kerry's admissions didn't meet the criteria of violation. The villages which were burned, were strategic areas not in protected territory, therefore were not covered in the GC. His witnessing of torture was second-hand accounts he didn't actually witness... etc... etc... etc... you know the drill. In any event, he made this 'compelling' argument for why Kerry wasn't a war criminal, and demanded I apologize for calling him one! LOL
Less than a year later, MM was arguing that ALLEGATIONS and RUMORS of US soldiers abusing alQaeda prisoners, amounted to "war crimes!" Never mind that alQaeda is not a country, much less a country which was a signatory to the Geneva Conventions, and never mind that these were just allegations and rumors! Basically, all of the loopholes he conveniently used to excuse John Kerry, were invalid in offering even the least amount of defense for US troops. Aside from this being a prime example of how two-faced the bastard can be, it also serves as the catalyst for our Final Showdown. MM had posted this scurrilous tirade of speculative garbage, and posed the question of what should be done about the US troops who were, in his mind, already convicted of these allegations.
Several months before, a poster known as "toby" had made a few posts in the forum, accusing MM of pedophilia. He claimed he had tacked Virgil to several underground pedophile forums on the internet, where he was posting regularly to other pedophiles. Of course, the board Admins jumped in and censored the threads, banned toby, and took MM's side in the whole affair. And I don't know if any of the allegations were true or not, but MM certainly did "protesteth too much" if you know what I mean. To this day, he is still very sensitive to the allegations. Okay.... so we are in one of our famous heated debates over these relatively new allegations coming out in the media, regarding prisoner abuse at Abu Grahb. MM was all over the forums, practically ready to just hang these soldiers without a trial, he was absolutely convinced everything we had heard was the truth, and no further questions even needed to be asked! I interjected the poignant and valid point... Maineman? How would you feel, if people were posting the allegations about your pedophilia in the forum, as if they were true, without giving you the opportunity to defend yourself? How would you like it, if people were assuming those allegations to be true, without anything more than a rumor or speculation from a media report?
Well, ol' Virgil blew a gasket! You will note, I didn't "accuse" him of anything, I simply asked how he would feel if someone did to him what he was doing to these troops? I felt like it was a point well made, and I put it in a context which he could certainly relate to. He didn't see it that way. He immediately claimed that I was spreading lies about him, and demanded I be banned from the forums! OF course, I wasn't banned, but this just angered him more, so he set out to find all kinds of personal information about me. Some of it, I had made public through the forums... innocently talking about my daughter, whom I was proud of for graduating with honors, etc... He posted my full name and address at one point. it was taken down almost immediately, but he continued to post the information in conspicuous ways, almost as if he was using a 'secret code' in posting, as to avoid direct references or violation of board policy. This is the primary reason Damo is so sensitive about "personal information" being posted. That instance, is the one which prompted the rule, and Damo's position on it.
Now, one would think, after having posts deleted and being warned about it several times, MM would have been satisfied to let it go. But noooo.... he was not through yet! In the third week of this hissy fit of his, he cut loose with one of the most outrageous and obscene posts I have ever seen on ANY message board!
He began by talking about my beautiful daughter. His post quickly turned into a "fantasy" type post, of what he would like to do to her. He said he wanted to rape her at gunpoint. In his warped fantasy, he was accompanied by a disease-ridden biker gang, who were going to take turns raping my daughter and "jizzing in her face" as he watched. I'm telling you, it was SICK beyond belief! He went on and on, in sick perverted detail, and it just got worse and worse. It was the most disgusting, perverted and sick depiction I have ever read in my life, and it came right out of MM's fingers for the whole forum to see.
Of course, and again, the threads were deleted by the Admin, and MM was warned. But what was ironic... I was ALSO warned! Apparently, I had provoked this outburst by "accusing" him of pedophilia! To this date, I have NEVER directly accused him of anything!
After this episode, a few days had passed, and MM came out with an "apology" to me... It amounted to... I am sorry you made me do that! I promise I won't do that again, if you apologize for your actions! ....LMFAO! He admitted he was "drunk" when he posted that stuff, and it didn't reflect what he really thought at all... something he managed to conveniently forget when Mel Gibson used essentially the same excuse. I refuse to apologize, I didn't do anything to apologize for! Since then, he has routinely tried to 'make peace' with me, to 'bury the hatchet' to 'forgive and forget' and to 'let bygones be bygones' between us. I refuse to forget or forgive him, he has not shown true remorse for what he did, in my opinion.
Before the "raping my daughter at gunpoint" thread, I kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt on all of these 'pedophile' charges, and I didn't really think he was the person toby had claimed. I was willing to even forgive him for posting my personal information repeatedly, because that was an attack on me personally, and I can turn the other cheek... but when you involve my family members the way he did, that is something I can't overlook or forgive. I now believe everything alleged about him is the absolute truth, and we've barely scratched the surface.
I can't divulge the information I obtained on him, but it did come from a pedophile watchdog group on the internet, and they are familiar with Virgil Bozeman. This guy is one more sick perverted puppy, and he better hope we never cross paths in real life.
I want to make it clear the authoir does NOT post here but I sharing this since Virgil seem to want to paint himsl;ef as a victim of right wing hate
WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC EMAIL READ WITH CAUTION
If you hear about it from Damo or Grind, it sounds as if this were some 'mutual' squabble between MM and myself, which just got out of control, and that was never the case. I will chronicle the events as they happened and let you decide. I already know what I think, and I believe Damo, Grind, and others, are being deliberately more 'fair' to MM than he deserves.
On the old Politics.com forum, and on the FullPolitics.com forum, one of the main rivalries was that of MM and myself. We often had very heated and intricate debates over a host of 'left/right' issues. Virgil is a smart guy, he knows a great deal, and his ability to form a believable argument from any perspective, is astounding. One example is this... We were debating the details of John Kerry's 1971 testimony over Vietnam, where he admitted to burning down villages and bore witness to electrical shocking of genitalia on enemy POW's. My argument was, this amounted to "war crimes" on the part of Kerry, for one, participating in such acts, and two, for not immediately reporting such things to his superiors. Well, of course, MM argued in favor of Kerry, citing his superior knowledge of the Geneva Convention, and maintaining Kerry's admissions didn't meet the criteria of violation. The villages which were burned, were strategic areas not in protected territory, therefore were not covered in the GC. His witnessing of torture was second-hand accounts he didn't actually witness... etc... etc... etc... you know the drill. In any event, he made this 'compelling' argument for why Kerry wasn't a war criminal, and demanded I apologize for calling him one! LOL
Less than a year later, MM was arguing that ALLEGATIONS and RUMORS of US soldiers abusing alQaeda prisoners, amounted to "war crimes!" Never mind that alQaeda is not a country, much less a country which was a signatory to the Geneva Conventions, and never mind that these were just allegations and rumors! Basically, all of the loopholes he conveniently used to excuse John Kerry, were invalid in offering even the least amount of defense for US troops. Aside from this being a prime example of how two-faced the bastard can be, it also serves as the catalyst for our Final Showdown. MM had posted this scurrilous tirade of speculative garbage, and posed the question of what should be done about the US troops who were, in his mind, already convicted of these allegations.
Several months before, a poster known as "toby" had made a few posts in the forum, accusing MM of pedophilia. He claimed he had tacked Virgil to several underground pedophile forums on the internet, where he was posting regularly to other pedophiles. Of course, the board Admins jumped in and censored the threads, banned toby, and took MM's side in the whole affair. And I don't know if any of the allegations were true or not, but MM certainly did "protesteth too much" if you know what I mean. To this day, he is still very sensitive to the allegations. Okay.... so we are in one of our famous heated debates over these relatively new allegations coming out in the media, regarding prisoner abuse at Abu Grahb. MM was all over the forums, practically ready to just hang these soldiers without a trial, he was absolutely convinced everything we had heard was the truth, and no further questions even needed to be asked! I interjected the poignant and valid point... Maineman? How would you feel, if people were posting the allegations about your pedophilia in the forum, as if they were true, without giving you the opportunity to defend yourself? How would you like it, if people were assuming those allegations to be true, without anything more than a rumor or speculation from a media report?
Well, ol' Virgil blew a gasket! You will note, I didn't "accuse" him of anything, I simply asked how he would feel if someone did to him what he was doing to these troops? I felt like it was a point well made, and I put it in a context which he could certainly relate to. He didn't see it that way. He immediately claimed that I was spreading lies about him, and demanded I be banned from the forums! OF course, I wasn't banned, but this just angered him more, so he set out to find all kinds of personal information about me. Some of it, I had made public through the forums... innocently talking about my daughter, whom I was proud of for graduating with honors, etc... He posted my full name and address at one point. it was taken down almost immediately, but he continued to post the information in conspicuous ways, almost as if he was using a 'secret code' in posting, as to avoid direct references or violation of board policy. This is the primary reason Damo is so sensitive about "personal information" being posted. That instance, is the one which prompted the rule, and Damo's position on it.
Now, one would think, after having posts deleted and being warned about it several times, MM would have been satisfied to let it go. But noooo.... he was not through yet! In the third week of this hissy fit of his, he cut loose with one of the most outrageous and obscene posts I have ever seen on ANY message board!
He began by talking about my beautiful daughter. His post quickly turned into a "fantasy" type post, of what he would like to do to her. He said he wanted to rape her at gunpoint. In his warped fantasy, he was accompanied by a disease-ridden biker gang, who were going to take turns raping my daughter and "jizzing in her face" as he watched. I'm telling you, it was SICK beyond belief! He went on and on, in sick perverted detail, and it just got worse and worse. It was the most disgusting, perverted and sick depiction I have ever read in my life, and it came right out of MM's fingers for the whole forum to see.
Of course, and again, the threads were deleted by the Admin, and MM was warned. But what was ironic... I was ALSO warned! Apparently, I had provoked this outburst by "accusing" him of pedophilia! To this date, I have NEVER directly accused him of anything!
After this episode, a few days had passed, and MM came out with an "apology" to me... It amounted to... I am sorry you made me do that! I promise I won't do that again, if you apologize for your actions! ....LMFAO! He admitted he was "drunk" when he posted that stuff, and it didn't reflect what he really thought at all... something he managed to conveniently forget when Mel Gibson used essentially the same excuse. I refuse to apologize, I didn't do anything to apologize for! Since then, he has routinely tried to 'make peace' with me, to 'bury the hatchet' to 'forgive and forget' and to 'let bygones be bygones' between us. I refuse to forget or forgive him, he has not shown true remorse for what he did, in my opinion.
Before the "raping my daughter at gunpoint" thread, I kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt on all of these 'pedophile' charges, and I didn't really think he was the person toby had claimed. I was willing to even forgive him for posting my personal information repeatedly, because that was an attack on me personally, and I can turn the other cheek... but when you involve my family members the way he did, that is something I can't overlook or forgive. I now believe everything alleged about him is the absolute truth, and we've barely scratched the surface.
I can't divulge the information I obtained on him, but it did come from a pedophile watchdog group on the internet, and they are familiar with Virgil Bozeman. This guy is one more sick perverted puppy, and he better hope we never cross paths in real life.