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Kathianne
12-20-2011, 01:26 PM
Does he know nothing about economies?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/19/create-wealth-not-jobs/


MURRAY AND BIER: Create wealth, not jobsKeystone XL pipeline would boost prosperity, not government
Spending on construction and infrastructure jobs is a perennial favorite of government stimulus boosters. "There's no reason for Republicans in Congress to stand in the way of more construction projects," President Obama told an Ohio crowd in September. "There's no reason to stand in the way of more jobs." However, the president now wants to block a massive private-sector construction project that would create the thousands of jobs he demands - the Keystone XL pipeline.


Strangely, the president seemed absolutely opposed to a compromise that would promote the very construction jobs he claims to favor. "Any effort to try to tie Keystone to the payroll tax cut, I will reject," he said. "The reason is because the payroll tax cut is something House Republicans and Senate Republicans should want to do regardless of any other issues." The only logical explanation for Mr. Obama's continuous opposition to constructing XL is that he thinks it's a bad idea. With that in mind, let's judge the pipeline on its merits.
TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline is a massive job- and wealth-creation project. The pipeline will snake its way 1,700 miles from Alberta to the Gulf coast with stops in Oklahoma and Illinois. Keystone will create $7 billion in investment without any additional congressional spending. It is exactly the sort of massive construction project Mr. Obama demanded from Republicans in September, with one important exception: It's private.


In the same Ohio speech, Mr. Obama said, "[W]e used to have the best infrastructure in the world here in America. We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad, the Interstate Highway System. We built the Hoover Dam." In other words, big projects are great as long as they are big-government projects. Otherwise, your project can wait.


The logic behind the payroll tax cut, as explained by Mr. Obama, is that "it will spur spending. It will spur hiring." But the pipeline the administration is fighting will create 20,000 jobs with no new government spending. Detractors who have argued that these jobs are only temporary, that just 50 permanent jobs will be created, miss the point. Economic activity doesn't exist to create work, but to create wealth. TransCanada isn't building the pipeline to provide jobs, but to provide energy - oil for people to power their cars, lower their shipping costs and raise their standard of living...



I get the feeling he cares less about the economy and more about government control.

ConHog
12-20-2011, 01:30 PM
While on the one hand I applaud him stating that one should have nothing to do with the other. I have to wonder why it is THIS bill that he has chosen to take a stand against riders on.

Just seems odd, where has he been for the last 3 years as President when riders flew through Congress?

Toro
12-20-2011, 04:32 PM
http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2011/12/costs_and_benef.html

Kathianne
12-20-2011, 11:02 PM
Yep, Toro. While jobs would be created while construction was underway, the real wealth is in the project itself and the wealth and savings to the country with its creation. Not by the government, but by private enterprise.

red states rule
12-21-2011, 03:06 AM
Does he know nothing about economies?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/19/create-wealth-not-jobs/



I get the feeling he cares less about the economy and more about government control.

Actually Kat a guy just published book on Obama's knowledge of the US economy

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and


http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/19/man-publishes-book-of-200-blank-pages-everything-obama-knows-about-the-economy/

Kathianne
12-21-2011, 12:35 PM
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12/19/no-keystone-no-problem-i-am-very-serious-about-selling-our-oil-off-this-continent-harper-says/


No Keystone pipeline, no problem: ‘I am very serious about selling our oil off this continent,’ Stephen Harper says Postmedia News (http://news.nationalpost.com/author/postmedianews/) Dec 19, 2011 – 11:17 PM ET | Last Updated: Dec 20, 2011 10:52 AM ET


By Jordan Press
OTTAWA — Canada could sell its oil to China and other overseas markets with or without approval of the Keystone XL oil pipeline in the United States, says Prime Minister Stephen Harper.


In a year-end television interview, Harper indicated he had doubts the $7-billion pipeline would receive political approval from U.S. President Barack Obama, and that Canada should be looking outside the United States for markets.


“I am very serious about selling our oil off this continent, selling our energy products off to Asia. I think we have to do that,” Harper said in the Monday interview with CTV National News.
Harper’s comments were released a day after the White House sent signals it might kill TransCanada’s oil sands pipeline if it is forced to make a decision on the project in 60 days, saying there wasn’t sufficient time to complete a new environmental review...

...Even though the project could still win approval from the Obama administration, Harper appeared to believe that the pipeline would not be completed, meaning Canada would have to look elsewhere to trade its oil...





China will pay for the oil.

logroller
12-22-2011, 01:51 AM
"Econ 101: Obama says no to growing weath."

Apparently Econ comes before spelling.:laugh:

I've sorta given up all hope that anything Obama says will come to fruition. I say sorta, because one day I still hold out hope that he'll concede defeat the 2012 election. :cool:

red states rule
12-22-2011, 03:11 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hyECORLe2jg/SbLCGyxElTI/AAAAAAAADjM/BmQGs8FJPrg/s400/Obamanomics.jpg

Kathianne
12-22-2011, 07:37 AM
"Econ 101: Obama says no to growing weath."

Apparently Econ comes before spelling.:laugh:

I've sorta given up all hope that anything Obama says will come to fruition. I say sorta, because one day I still hold out hope that he'll concede defeat the 2012 election. :cool:

Fixed the typo.