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jimnyc
02-28-2012, 03:17 PM
I'm sorry, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever convince me that they want their soldiers to be like this. I don't give a fuck how you were born, but if you strap yourself around another man like this in public, you ain't on any team of mine.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1z1cv4i.jpg

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gay-marine-homecoming-kiss-goes-viral-172452159.html

OCA
02-28-2012, 03:25 PM
I'm sorry, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever convince me that they want their soldiers to be like this. I don't give a fuck how you were born, but if you strap yourself around another man like this in public, you ain't on any team of mine.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1z1cv4i.jpg

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gay-marine-homecoming-kiss-goes-viral-172452159.html

How much you bet this queer gets a little towel party? And deservedly so.

Noir
02-28-2012, 03:28 PM
Who cares?

And more to the point were are the pics of the lesbians in uniform kissing?

jimnyc
02-28-2012, 04:03 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/lesbian-couple-share-navys-first-kiss-homecoming-honors/1#.T01BG_Uho4c

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-deadline/2011/12/21/Kissx-wide-community.jpg

jimnyc
02-28-2012, 04:04 PM
At least the ladies didn't straddle one another.

Noir
02-28-2012, 04:11 PM
If you've been away on tour etc i think the emotion of seeing your loved one again somewhat overrides everything else at that moment in time, rendering some common etiquette, like not straddling, suspended.

OCA
02-28-2012, 04:11 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/lesbian-couple-share-navys-first-kiss-homecoming-honors/1#.T01BG_Uho4c

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-deadline/2011/12/21/Kissx-wide-community.jpg

Oh boy, i'll bet you there are mullets and more body hair than Ron Jeremy under those clothes.

Disgusting.

DragonStryk72
02-28-2012, 04:12 PM
I'm sorry, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever convince me that they want their soldiers to be like this. I don't give a fuck how you were born, but if you strap yourself around another man like this in public, you ain't on any team of mine.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1z1cv4i.jpg

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gay-marine-homecoming-kiss-goes-viral-172452159.html

Yeah, The marine is in the wrong here. Setting the gay/straight bit aside, that's pretty clear PDA, and rather overwhelmingly so. Even if you switch the male marine for a female marine, still in the wrong, and should be getting a talking to by the Sergeant in charge.

As to being gay or not? I don't care, it honestly doesn't matter if they like to putt from the rough, as long as they can follow orders, the UCMJ, and protect us from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Other than that, they're fine with me.

jimnyc
02-28-2012, 04:14 PM
If you've been away on tour etc i think the emotion of seeing your loved one again somewhat overrides everything else at that moment in time, rendering some common etiquette, like not straddling, suspended.

Hey, whatever floats their boat I suppose. But even in my worst moments, piss drunk, I don't react to situations like a little girl would. He's about 2 seconds from humping the other guys leg like a dog.

Abbey Marie
02-28-2012, 04:17 PM
I'm sorry, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever convince me that they want their soldiers to be like this. I don't give a fuck how you were born, but if you strap yourself around another man like this in public, you ain't on any team of mine.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1z1cv4i.jpg

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gay-marine-homecoming-kiss-goes-viral-172452159.html

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OCA
02-28-2012, 04:18 PM
Hey, whatever floats their boat I suppose. But even in my worst moments, piss drunk, I don't react to situations like a little girl would. He's about 2 seconds from humping the other guys leg like a dog.

Bet you he stares at the "regular" guys in the shower and volunteers for latrine duty.

jimnyc
02-28-2012, 04:21 PM
Yeah, The marine is in the wrong here. Setting the gay/straight bit aside, that's pretty clear PDA, and rather overwhelmingly so. Even if you switch the male marine for a female marine, still in the wrong, and should be getting a talking to by the Sergeant in charge.

As to being gay or not? I don't care, it honestly doesn't matter if they like to putt from the rough, as long as they can follow orders, the UCMJ, and protect us from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Other than that, they're fine with me.

I wasn't trying to restart a debate on gays in the military once again. I just wanted to address this one "fellow" who seems to be a bit excited, and I think makes the uniform seem a bit effeminate.

Noir
02-28-2012, 04:24 PM
Bet you he stares at the "regular" guys in the shower and volunteers for latrine duty.

i bet he always has his iPod speakers on too...elton john, queen, gaga, nickleback...hoping to stubbly turn those around him into penis lovers.

jimnyc
02-28-2012, 04:26 PM
i bet he always has his iPod speakers on too...elton john, queen, gaga, nickleback...hoping to stubbly turn those around him into penis lovers.

That's another thing, no self respecting military man would be caught with Elton John or that nutcase Gaga on their Ipods! :lol::laugh2:

Noir
02-28-2012, 04:28 PM
That's another thing, no self respecting military man would be caught with Elton John or that nutcase Gaga on their Ipods! :lol::laugh2:

...i do have the lion king soundtrack...does that rule me out by default?

jimnyc
02-28-2012, 04:32 PM
...i do have the lion king soundtrack...does that rule me out by default?

Just edit out the names. I think Elton John is quite talented, but no way in hell I even carry an album of his to the register though! LOL Gaga just sickens me, she's an attention whore.

DragonStryk72
02-28-2012, 04:33 PM
I wasn't trying to restart a debate on gays in the military once again. I just wanted to address this one "fellow" who seems to be a bit excited, and I think makes the uniform seem a bit effeminate.

lol, it's fine, but you'll note my first portion was reprimanding the PDA itself. As long as he's in uniform, he's in the wrong for that, just like a woman would be.

jimnyc
02-28-2012, 04:37 PM
lol, it's fine, but you'll note my first portion was reprimanding the PDA itself. As long as he's in uniform, he's in the wrong for that, just like a woman would be.

Yep, I saw that. I never even though of it that way, because he was in uniform, I was more addressing the "level" of the display. I would imagine a woman coming off a ship, then jumping and straddling her man would look a bit out of the ordinary as well.

Noir
02-28-2012, 04:41 PM
Just edit out the names. I think Elton John is quite talented, but no way in hell I even carry an album of his to the register though! LOL Gaga just sickens me, she's an attention whore.

yeah trufax,

also, this thread kinda reminded me of this, straight, its the new gay...

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jimnyc
02-28-2012, 04:49 PM
Holy crap, that guy was hilarious. Best line ever:

"Y'know mate, I've been told that if you wear an earring in your right ear like I do, that in England that means you're gay. Weird. Ya see, in Australia, it's when you put your cock in another mans ass"

Mr. P
02-28-2012, 05:02 PM
Ya know what I see in the OP pic? The "current" liberal media agenda. I mean, what happened to "BABY KILLER" that I and my brothers on the board are so familiar hearing? Now it's "Home sweet home" if yer gay. Just sayin

Noir
02-28-2012, 05:21 PM
Ya know what I see in the OP pic? The "current" liberal media agenda. I mean, what happened to "BABY KILLER" that I and my brothers on the board are so familiar hearing? Now it's "Home sweet home" if yer gay. Just sayin

Would you rather it was baby killer? Or home sweet home?

Mr. P
02-28-2012, 05:26 PM
Would you rather it was baby killer? Or home sweet home?

I'd rather see "Don't ask don't tell".

Noir
02-28-2012, 05:33 PM
I'd rather see "Don't ask don't tell".

That wasn't my question.

Mr. P
02-28-2012, 06:47 PM
That wasn't my question.

No, But it was my answer to your silly question.

DragonStryk72
02-28-2012, 08:56 PM
I'd rather see "Don't ask don't tell".

Um, not to nitpick here, but DADT was a Liberal move. I mean, I know they refuse to claim it now, but it was put into practice by Clinton.

Mr. P
02-28-2012, 10:43 PM
Um, not to nitpick here, but DADT was a Liberal move. I mean, I know they refuse to claim it now, but it was put into practice by Clinton.

I know. I remember a time DADT was just the norm, not a law (or whatever) it worked just fine. And WE ALL (in service) knew. Just sayin

DragonStryk72
02-29-2012, 12:21 AM
I know. I remember a time DADT was just the norm, not a law (or whatever) it worked just fine. And WE ALL (in service) knew. Just sayin

Yeah, not like they gave you enough room or time not to figure it out. I mean, seriously, there were guys on the boat I was with over 100 hours a week. Married couples don't spend that much of their time together.

Gunny
02-29-2012, 08:47 AM
I'm sorry, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever convince me that they want their soldiers to be like this. I don't give a fuck how you were born, but if you strap yourself around another man like this in public, you ain't on any team of mine.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1z1cv4i.jpg

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gay-marine-homecoming-kiss-goes-viral-172452159.html

Unless something;s changed recently, he's done. More than likely, EXACTLY what he wants. PDA's in the Marine Corps even between normal people (man and woman) aren't allowed, much less this vile, abnormal crap. That idiot's a disgrace to the uniform.

Engaging in homosexual acts is a violation of the UCMJ. He can be court martialed and kicked out. The way the left, via its Washington cronies forces its social experimentation on the US military though, who knows if they'll enforce it. Claiming to be a homosexual, getting pregnant for a woman, and or admitting to being a drug user are were the three biggest excuses used to get an administrative separation from the service when I was in.

gabosaurus
02-29-2012, 10:46 PM
I see what you are saying. Gay people are not allowed to show emotion at any time. It's OK for heterosexual couples to have huge homecomings on TV and have big photo spreads in the paper. But gays need to hide in the kitchen where no one can see them.
It's the 21st Century. Perhaps you should join.

ConHog
02-29-2012, 10:58 PM
Gross

Noir
02-29-2012, 11:01 PM
Unless something;s changed recently, he's done. More than likely, EXACTLY what he wants. PDA's in the Marine Corps even between normal people (man and woman) aren't allowed, much less this vile, abnormal crap. That idiot's a disgrace to the uniform.

Lets sack 'em, all of them!

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/PDE3.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/PDA2.jpg
http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/large_Cook.jpg

:salute:

DragonStryk72
02-29-2012, 11:58 PM
I see what you are saying. Gay people are not allowed to show emotion at any time. It's OK for heterosexual couples to have huge homecomings on TV and have big photo spreads in the paper. But gays need to hide in the kitchen where no one can see them.
It's the 21st Century. Perhaps you should join.

Actually, I said he was wrong, regardless of being a man or woman. That's direct PDA, which is not allowed. I'm not kidding, even if that was a female military member straddling her husband of 20+ years, it's wrong in the military. But hey, thanks for trolling the thread again. Stop advocating for gays, Gabs, you do more damage for their side than Fox News ever could.

DragonStryk72
03-01-2012, 12:08 AM
Lets sack 'em, all of them!

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/PDE3.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/PDA2.jpg
http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/large_Cook.jpg

:salute:

Okay, couple points here: No one mentioned sacking them. They should however being getting halted by their CO.

Second, yes, just returning from deployment, they tend to lax the standards a bit on it. However, guy in pic number two needs to get his wife down, and would likely get a stern cough from the Sarge. The difference is the person who did: The civilian woman committed the act, while in the original pic, it was the military man himself committing the foul. They can't go after the civvies for not upholding military regs, but it's a whole different ballgame for the mil members.

Now look at my Navy tag, I've spent six months overseas and come back to my hot girlfriend after deployment. During said deployment, I slept in a space with 87 other dudes, worked 100+ hour weeks with only 4 hour spurts of sleep (God, being an engineer sucked), and trust me, I was every bit thrilled to see my girlfriend after that. However, that doesn't change the point- PDA is wrong, and it is drilled into us from day one.

SassyLady
03-01-2012, 02:44 AM
Okay, couple points here: No one mentioned sacking them. They should however being getting halted by their CO.

Second, yes, just returning from deployment, they tend to lax the standards a bit on it. However, guy in pic number two needs to get his wife down, and would likely get a stern cough from the Sarge. The difference is the person who did: The civilian woman committed the act, while in the original pic, it was the military man himself committing the foul. They can't go after the civvies for not upholding military regs, but it's a whole different ballgame for the mil members.

Now look at my Navy tag, I've spent six months overseas and come back to my hot girlfriend after deployment. During said deployment, I slept in a space with 87 other dudes, worked 100+ hour weeks with only 4 hour spurts of sleep (God, being an engineer sucked), and trust me, I was every bit thrilled to see my girlfriend after that. However, that doesn't change the point- PDA is wrong, and it is drilled into us from day one.

I waved at my husband one time when he was doing a change of command .... just letting him know where I was sitting....boy, did he ever get on my case about that. I think the "no PDAs" was the hardest rule for me because I am a very affectionate person ... I like to hold hands especially. Very hard to go to military functions and not be able to hold hands but as the Sgt. Major he had to set an example.

Gunny
03-01-2012, 09:45 AM
I see what you are saying. Gay people are not allowed to show emotion at any time. It's OK for heterosexual couples to have huge homecomings on TV and have big photo spreads in the paper. But gays need to hide in the kitchen where no one can see them.
It's the 21st Century. Perhaps you should join.

No, you don't see what I'm saying. Gay people are an aberrent minority and can keep their vile crap within the confines of their homes.

Normal people (as you define "heterosexual") don't pull the crap these two aberrent creatures are pulling in the pic. We aren't allowed. The fact is, just the opposite of your accusation is true. If you're normal, you aren't allowed to put on a display like this. If you're gay, you are.

When are you people EVER going to get a clue? But you kep preaching for those "unequal" rights you're after. The aberrent minorities in this country should rule all and the majority should just suck it up.

Wrong.

Gunny
03-01-2012, 09:47 AM
Lets sack 'em, all of them!

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/PDE3.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jonathan-mcc/PDA2.jpg
http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/large_Cook.jpg

:salute:

What's your point? Or do you have one besides the fact you are a proponent of abnormal relationships?

Noir
03-01-2012, 10:01 AM
What's your point? Or do you have one besides the fact you are a proponent of abnormal relationships?

My point is that if you go into google and look up marine homecomings, you would be sacking a lot of veterans.

jimnyc
03-01-2012, 10:47 AM
I see what you are saying. Gay people are not allowed to show emotion at any time. It's OK for heterosexual couples to have huge homecomings on TV and have big photo spreads in the paper. But gays need to hide in the kitchen where no one can see them.
It's the 21st Century. Perhaps you should join.

Did you bother to read what DS72 wrote, or Gunny, which directly applies to soldiers? Of course you didn't.

jimnyc
03-01-2012, 10:50 AM
My point is that if you go into google and look up marine homecomings, you would be sacking a lot of veterans.

I'm confident some of the displays deserved a tap on the shoulder from one of their superiors, or some of the more overt displays may not have been in front of superiors - but besides the flaming fruitcake, can you find another man straddled on his boyfriend during one of these homecoming events? Or women soldiers acting in such a manner? All I see are the soldiers giving some hugs and kisses, not humping for the cameras.

DragonStryk72
03-01-2012, 10:59 AM
I waved at my husband one time when he was doing a change of command .... just letting him know where I was sitting....boy, did he ever get on my case about that. I think the "no PDAs" was the hardest rule for me because I am a very affectionate person ... I like to hold hands especially. Very hard to go to military functions and not be able to hold hands but as the Sgt. Major he had to set an example.

So am I, actually. Aside from whatever girl I'm with, I rarely touch much of anyone. I'm not constantly going for high fives and the like, but when I'm with someone, I'm very affectionate and I like holding hands, walking with an arm around her waist, kisses on the forehead or temple, and the like. I think that's the one thing I appreciated about being an engineer, is I would still be busy getting the ship's engines down, and switch over to shore power, so while I would miss the ceremont when we got back, I'd also be able to go straight to civvies when I got let off.

Gunny
03-01-2012, 11:00 AM
My point is that if you go into google and look up marine homecomings, you would be sacking a lot of veterans.

Really? I hate to be the one to point this out , BUT ... I'm more a veteran of "Marine Homecomings" that you can google. My wife got a brief hug. Period. Not to mention heterosexual marriage is legal in the Marine Corps. I had a woman hugging ME.

You want to try again? I've got more sea time than you have time on this board. I KNOW the rules get lax'd. Not for homosexuals. They are a violation of the UCMJ. Could and SHOULD be court martialed and kicked out.

Gunny
03-01-2012, 11:03 AM
I'm confident some of the displays deserved a tap on the shoulder from one of their superiors, or some of the more overt displays may not have been in front of superiors - but besides the flaming fruitcake, can you find another man straddled on his boyfriend during one of these homecoming events? Or women soldiers acting in such a manner? All I see are the soldiers giving some hugs and kisses, not humping for the cameras.

Our wives never acted like that. The PDA's being depicted as reality are the exception, not the rule. We usually landed in a sandstorm created by the rotors of the CH-46 and our wives were nowhere near. We had to drag our seabags to get to them. Granted, they had the engine running and were ready to go, but at least we took our act home.

DragonStryk72
03-01-2012, 11:12 AM
What's your point? Or do you have one besides the fact you are a proponent of abnormal relationships?

Actually, it's no longer a violation of the UCMJ to be gay, but that does not remove the prohibition on PDA.

Now to Noir: It isn't a court-martial offense. You can get in trouble for it, but usually it's not much more than a quick talking to from your Sargeant or LPO. It's only if it's egregious that they really have to get on you about it, or if you keep doing it. Otherwise, it's usually a quick head shake or tap on the shoulder.

LiberalNation
03-02-2012, 06:32 AM
Oh boy, i'll bet you there are mullets and more body hair than Ron Jeremy under those clothes.

Disgusting.
All the lesbians Ive ever dated or known are quite shaved actually, shave it all off.

Gunny
03-02-2012, 08:06 AM
Actually, it's no longer a violation of the UCMJ to be gay, but that does not remove the prohibition on PDA.

Now to Noir: It isn't a court-martial offense. You can get in trouble for it, but usually it's not much more than a quick talking to from your Sargeant or LPO. It's only if it's egregious that they really have to get on you about it, or if you keep doing it. Otherwise, it's usually a quick head shake or tap on the shoulder.

It never WAS a violation of the UCMJ to be gay. That's a misconception foisted upon the general public by the foaming at the mouth, we demand unequal rights groups. It was against the UCMJ to engage in homosexual acts, or live a homosexual lifestyle. To my knowledge, that has not changed.

These two Nancy's did what they did for a purpose.

Gunny
03-02-2012, 08:06 AM
All the lesbians Ive ever dated or known are quite shaved actually, shave it all off.

TMI. Now I have to go scrub that out of my brain with lye.

gabosaurus
03-02-2012, 11:36 PM
TMI. Now I have to go scrub that out of my brain with lye.

If we are referring to lower half kisses -- don't knock it til you've tried it. :beer:

ConHog
03-02-2012, 11:40 PM
I see what you are saying. Gay people are not allowed to show emotion at any time. It's OK for heterosexual couples to have huge homecomings on TV and have big photo spreads in the paper. But gays need to hide in the kitchen where no one can see them.
It's the 21st Century. Perhaps you should join.

It's a question of decorum. A display like that is highly frowned upon even if it's a man and a woman.

You have to remember the military has different rules than civilian life.

tailfins
03-03-2012, 09:36 AM
I see what you are saying. Gay people are not allowed to show emotion at any time. It's OK for heterosexual couples to have huge homecomings on TV and have big photo spreads in the paper. But gays need to hide in the kitchen where no one can see them.


So far, so good!



It's the 21st Century. Perhaps you should join.

Nah, participating in society's decline just doesn't do much for me. Gays should be satisfied not being messed with. I get it: They need jobs, housing, facilities like anyone else. Just don't try to pressure me to approve of their lifestyle, 'cause I won't.

Thunderknuckles
03-03-2012, 09:50 AM
There are two attitudes here. One is open disgust with the picture. The other is the rationalization of it. Regardless of what camp you're in, I think we all know deep down that there is something "wrong" with this.


P.S. I love Elton John! The man has made some great music over the years.

Noir
03-03-2012, 09:58 AM
There are two attitudes here. One is open disgust with the picture. The other is the rationalization of it. Regardless of what camp you're in, I think we all know deep down that there is something "wrong" with this.


P.S. I love Elton John! The man has made some great music over the years.

You can count me out of the 'know there's something wrong with this' generalization.

Thunderknuckles
03-03-2012, 10:34 AM
When I say wrong, I don't mean bad, evil, abhorrent, etc. I mean it's "off", unintended, an aberration. This is what homosexuality is plain and simple. Regardless, it doesn't mean I would attempt to infringe upon their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Let them have at it.
As for you Noir, I am going to keep you locked up in my "generalization camp" :p

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 10:46 AM
Good for them!

Nothing different from how a heterosexual military couple would greet each other after a long absence.

DragonStryk72
03-03-2012, 10:47 AM
It never WAS a violation of the UCMJ to be gay. That's a misconception foisted upon the general public by the foaming at the mouth, we demand unequal rights groups. It was against the UCMJ to engage in homosexual acts, or live a homosexual lifestyle. To my knowledge, that has not changed.

These two Nancy's did what they did for a purpose.

Well, of course they did it for a purpose, the same as you hug your wife for a purpose. That's silly, everyone has a purpose for doing what they do, regardless idiotic or crazy the purpose.

Actually, I doubt there was a higher purpose in the two pictured, as those sorts of pics are usually aspected toward making certain they get a pic of kissing, and clearly seeing the faces, so that it can be captioned for facebook or youtube. Here, we have a clear, but somewhat poorly shot pic, so I'm thinking it's basically genuine, although it'll certainly get used for politics related to gays in the military, and most likely, by both sides.

Overall, though, I think that the problem is just a lot more basic: They're in the wrong regardless on a PDA foul.

Obama saw to it that homosexuality is no longer punishable, likely because teams of lawyers thought of that loophole.

DragonStryk72
03-03-2012, 10:47 AM
Good for them!

Well it's good for them they're in love, but still wrong on the PDA end

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 10:48 AM
well it's good for them they're in love, but still wrong on the pda end


pda?

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 10:50 AM
Good for them!

Nothing different from how a heterosexual military couple would greet each other after a long absence.

And it's against regulations for heteros to do so too. But show me just ONE hetero service men/woman who came home and straddled their "partner" for everyone to see. Wrong is wrong when it's the military, whether gay or hetero.

Thunderknuckles
03-03-2012, 10:51 AM
pda?
Public Display of Affection.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 10:52 AM
And it's against regulations for heteros to do so too. But show me just ONE hetero service men/woman who came home and straddled their "partner" for everyone to see. Wrong is wrong when it's the military, whether gay or hetero.

I'm sure I can find a photo of a straight couple doing just that quite easily.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 10:53 AM
I'm sure I can find a photo of a straight couple doing just that quite easily.

Good! It's so easy - post away!! And remember, it's got to be the service women/men doing the straddling - go though, post it for us!

Mr. P
03-03-2012, 10:55 AM
pda?

Public Display of Affection...it's against regs.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 10:57 AM
Public Display of Affection...it's against regs.

Be clear to her - it's against regs for ALL members of the service.

Mr. P
03-03-2012, 10:59 AM
Be clear to her - it's against regs for ALL members of the service.

Yes, it is.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 10:59 AM
Be clear to her - it's against regs for ALL members of the service.


OK. So they were acting against regs. Bad them. What's the penalty?

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 11:02 AM
OK. So they were acting against regs. Bad them. What's the penalty?

Hopefully removal from service. But likely a talking to from their superiors. But worse - they sully the uniform by engaging in such stupidity. Wait till they get home and out of uniform before acting like dogs who hump one another.

Mr. P
03-03-2012, 11:02 AM
OK. So they were acting against regs. Bad them. What's the penalty?

Not they, just the service member.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 11:06 AM
Where's the picture, WS, you said this would be easy!?!?

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 11:15 AM
I'm sure I can find a photo of a straight couple doing just that quite easily.

I'm still waiting, if its so easy you should be able to find it quite quickly....

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 11:16 AM
I'm still waiting, if its so easy you should be able to find it quite quickly....


I gave a quick look and didn't find any. If it were that important to me to be right all the time I'd put more energy into it.

I stand corrected. No one had ever explained PDA to me before. Thanks for that.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 11:18 AM
I gave a quick look and didn't find any. If it were that important to me to be right all the time I'd put more energy into it.

I stand corrected. No one had ever explained PDA to me before. Thanks for that.

If it were that important for me to be right all the time, I would think before I post. Even as a hetero, I've NEVER seen ANYONE before this picture come home from military service and basically jump up and straddle their partner in such a fashion. It's unbecoming of a soldier in uniform, and not surprising that it came from a queer trying to make headlines.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 11:21 AM
If it were that important for me to be right all the time, I would think before I post. Even as a hetero, I've NEVER seen ANYONE before this picture come home from military service and basically jump up and straddle their partner in such a fashion. It's unbecoming of a soldier in uniform, and not surprising that it came from a queer trying to make headlines.


Reading comprehension problems? It is NOT important for me to be right all the time. I have no problem being human.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 11:24 AM
Reading comprehension problems? It is NOT important for me to be right all the time. I have no problem being human.

Then repeat after me:

"I made a knee jerk reaction to the picture. Apparently what they are doing is against military regulations. I can't even find a picture of a heterosexual couple straddling one another in such a manner. This soldiers actions are VERY rare and inappropriate".

C'mon, you can do it.

Thunderknuckles
03-03-2012, 11:28 AM
Stand down Jim. She already said she doesn't have to be right all the time. That's good enough.

DragonStryk72
03-03-2012, 11:28 AM
pda?

As has been pointed out, Public Display of Affection. It doesn't matter if you can find an example of a hetero couple, because they would be just as guilty of the same offense.

The first time, it's likely just going to be a quick cough or talking to from the Sarge or LPO. After that, you can get written up, and finally, three write-ups later, you can be brought to Captain's Mast or court martial for administrative punishment, meaning you could end up on restriction (can't leave the ship/barracks, and they work you like mad during your off time) and half-pay for up to two months, or even get an other than honorable discharge if you keep pushing it.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 11:31 AM
Stand down Jim. She already said she doesn't have to be right all the time. That's good enough.

Ok. Now I feel ashamed again. I feel like I've just been scolded by my superior. But when you're right, you're right.

I'm out of coffee anyway, need to run to Shop Rite and get some more!!

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 11:34 AM
Then repeat after me:

"I made a knee jerk reaction to the picture. Apparently what they are doing is against military regulations. I can't even find a picture of a heterosexual couple straddling one another in such a manner. This soldiers actions are VERY rare and inappropriate".

C'mon, you can do it.


I wasn't aware of PDA. I stand corrected.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 11:35 AM
I wasn't aware of PDA. I stand corrected.

I'm starting to like you. I admire ANYONE that can admit when they're wrong. :clap:

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 11:37 AM
I'm starting to like you. I admire ANYONE that can admit when they're wrong. :clap:

Thank you.

ConHog
03-03-2012, 01:29 PM
Hopefully removal from service. But likely a talking to from their superiors. But worse - they sully the uniform by engaging in such stupidity. Wait till they get home and out of uniform before acting like dogs who hump one another.

Removal from sevice? Ouch

Oh and i can tell you for sure some female soldiers jumped into their mans arms like that including the kiss when they came home.

It wo t result in any formal punishment just a reminder of decorum

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 01:36 PM
Removal from sevice? Ouch

Oh and i can tell you for sure some female soldiers jumped into their mans arms like that including the kiss when they came home.

It wo t result in any formal punishment just a reminder of decorum

I was just voicing my opinion. If I were in charge of a shitload of men, I wouldn't want one of them acting in this manner. It embarrasses the entire division/team/unit - IMO. And if these women you speak of did it, it's never been televised and put all over the media - and I hope they receive the same punishments. A hug and a kiss is fine, humping one another, while in the US uniform, is wrong and unacceptable, IMO.

LiberalNation
03-03-2012, 03:43 PM
The WW2 guy in girl kiss on his return was put into statues, print, & seen round the world. It's an American tradition for the returning soldier to get a kiss.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 03:48 PM
The WW2 guy in girl kiss on his return was put into statues, print, & seen round the world. It's an American tradition for the returning soldier to get a kiss.

Yes, gently held hiw woman in his arms and kissed her. It's a little different when a man is straddling another man like my Chihuahua and Pug do to one another.

gabosaurus
03-03-2012, 05:44 PM
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Wind Song
03-03-2012, 05:50 PM
The WW2 guy in girl kiss on his return was put into statues, print, & seen round the world. It's an American tradition for the returning soldier to get a kiss.


Jim can't handle an image of gay men kissing.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 06:05 PM
Jim can't handle an image of gay men kissing.

Look at my posts. Have I been voicing an issue with the kissing, or the straddling? As foul as I find it, I can accept 2 queers missing one another. But I don't need to find the humping appropriate in that setting.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:09 PM
Look at my posts. Have I been voicing an issue with the kissing, or the straddling? As foul as I find it, I can accept 2 queers missing one another. But I don't need to find the humping appropriate in that setting.


They're not humping. They are being silly. One just jumped into the other.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 06:11 PM
They're not humping. They are being silly. One just jumped into the other.

It's called straddling, look it up. And it's inappropriate whether hetero or homo, male or female. Again, have your kiss, have your hugging, but the straddling is going too far. You just see decent in the inappropriate because it's a fellow queer.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:13 PM
It's called straddling, look it up. And it's inappropriate whether hetero or homo, male or female. Again, have your kiss, have your hugging, but the straddling is going too far. You just see decent in the inappropriate because it's a fellow queer.


Is that what you call it when a kid does that to mom?

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 06:15 PM
Is that what you call it when a kid does that to mom?

Yes, but in a mother/child sense - we're talking about military and adults though.

ConHog
03-03-2012, 06:15 PM
They're not humping. They are being silly. One just jumped into the other.

I have a question for you and Jimmy. I suspect I know how each will answer.

Do you REALLY believe that that behavior in public is acceptable, especially from a member of the military?

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:16 PM
I have a question for you and Jimmy. I suspect I know how each will answer.

Do you REALLY believe that that behavior in public is acceptable, especially from a member of the military?


I don't find it offensive. Silly maybe.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 06:17 PM
I have a question for you and Jimmy. I suspect I know how each will answer.

Do you REALLY believe that that behavior in public is acceptable, especially from a member of the military?

This applies to military and the public - I don't have a problem with hugging, or regular kissing. But straddling and "making out" is too much when in pubilc. Some things are solely meant to be in private.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:17 PM
Yes, but in a mother/child sense - we're talking about military and adults though.


First of all, if that position was between a man and a woman you could call it humping. But not between a man and another man. Their parts don't fit that way.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 06:19 PM
First of all, if that position was between a man and a woman you could call it humping. But not between a man and another man. Their parts don't fit that way.

Yeah, and just like the guys in the picture, my dog will hum my leg, a chair, the neighbors cat. a moving car... I would think a soldier wouldn't want to act like an animal in public.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:21 PM
Yeah, and just like the guys in the picture, my dog will hum my leg, a chair, the neighbors cat. a moving car... I would think a soldier wouldn't want to act like an animal in public.


The soldier acted like he missed his mate.

ConHog
03-03-2012, 06:21 PM
This applies to military and the public - I don't have a problem with hugging, or regular kissing. But straddling and "making out" is too much when in pubilc. Some things are solely meant to be in private.

I actually knew your answer. I know Sky's to, and so I understand why she pretended like I didn't even ask a question.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:21 PM
I actually knew your answer. I know Sky's to, and so I understand why she pretended like I didn't even ask a question.


Keep talking to yourself. You don't need anyone's answers to your questions.

ConHog
03-03-2012, 06:22 PM
First of all, if that position was between a man and a woman you could call it humping. But not between a man and another man. Their parts don't fit that way.

is true, for it to be man on man humping they would have to be in a postion like when my wife jumps on my back for me to give her a piggy back ride.

ConHog
03-03-2012, 06:23 PM
Keep talking to yourself. You don't need anyone's answers to your questions.

Why do you refuse to answer questions asked of you?

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 06:23 PM
The soldier acted like he missed his mate.

And if I were away from my wife for 6 months to a year or 2, I would sure as hell miss her a lot. I probably couldn't barely wait till I got her alone and show her just how much. But sadly for me, I would have some self respect, and respect for others, and do the right thing and wait till I'm behind my closed doors.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:24 PM
Why do you refuse to answer questions asked of you?


It's my perogative. I answer most questions, but not all. Some aren't worth my time.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:25 PM
And if I were away from my wife for 6 months to a year or 2, I would sure as hell miss her a lot. I probably couldn't barely wait till I got her alone and show her just how much. But sadly for me, I would have some self respect, and respect for others, and do the right thing and wait till I'm behind my closed doors.


They were both fully clothed. They weren't fucking.

jimnyc
03-03-2012, 06:26 PM
They were both fully clothed. They weren't fucking.

I guess we just differ on what self respect means. If you think that display doesn't lack any, then coolio for you.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:28 PM
I guess we just differ on what self respect means. If you think that display doesn't lack any, then coolio for you.

That display doesn't bother me. I'm not military.

ConHog
03-03-2012, 06:32 PM
That display doesn't bother me. I'm not military.

But HE is , and that's the point.

I don't mean to sound condescending about this, but you really don't get it. When you join the military you agree to surrender certain of your rights. You no longer enjoy the protection of the COTUS, but rather are governed by the UCMJ. I understand that you as a civilian don't get that, but don't then try to lecture on what is okay for a military member to do.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:33 PM
But HE is , and that's the point.

I don't mean to sound condescending about this, but you really don't get it. When you join the military you agree to surrender certain of your rights. You no longer enjoy the protection of the COTUS, but rather are governed by the UCMJ. I understand that you as a civilian don't get that, but don't then try to lecture on what is okay for a military member to do.

I don't care that I "don't get it" according to you. I'm not military and I'm not going to apologize for that.

ConHog
03-03-2012, 06:40 PM
I don't care that I "don't get it" according to you. I'm not military and I'm not going to apologize for that.

then stop defending the military guy for his behavior if you don't even want to try to understand why what he did was wrong.

Honestly Sky , I've defended you on many occasions, but your behavior today is just ridiculous.

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:43 PM
then stop defending the military guy for his behavior if you don't even want to try to understand why what he did was wrong.

Honestly Sky , I've defended you on many occasions, but your behavior today is just ridiculous.

I will do whatever I choose to. I owe you no allegiance or obedience.

ConHog
03-03-2012, 06:47 PM
I will do whatever I choose to. I owe you no allegiance or obedience.

And you wonder why not a single person on two boards gives a shit about you?

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:49 PM
And you wonder why not a single person on two boards gives a shit about you?


I don't need anything from you. I don't need you to be any way other than you are. That's what you will never understand about me.

I'm very selective about friends on the internet. If you want to be friends, start acting like one.

ConHog
03-03-2012, 06:51 PM
I don't need anything from you. I don't need you to be any way other than you are. That's what you will never understand about me.

I'm very selective about friends on the internet. If you want to be friends, start acting like one.

Oh whatever. You're a lunatic who goes into a screaming rage anytime people won't accept everything about you on demand. No one wanting to be your friend is not you being selective. That's like Jim saying he's selective about who he has sex with.


:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: @ Jim

Wind Song
03-03-2012, 06:53 PM
Oh whatever. You're a lunatic who goes into a screaming rage anytime people won't accept everything about you on demand. No one wanting to be your friend is not you being selective. That's like Jim saying he's selective about who he has sex with.


:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: @ Jim

You don't want to be friends? Then what are you complaining about?

gabosaurus
03-03-2012, 09:30 PM
That display doesn't bother me. I'm not military.

UNCLEAN!! You didn't serve your country! Ungrateful coward!! Kneel down and apologize to the wonderful vets at this board.
Better yet, have a drink with them. Or two. Or seven...

ConHog
03-03-2012, 09:37 PM
UNCLEAN!! You didn't serve your country! Ungrateful coward!! Kneel down and apologize to the wonderful vets at this board.
Better yet, have a drink with them. Or two. Or seven...

That's not fair, you know that only the apes among us act like vets are better than anyone else.

LuvRPgrl
03-04-2012, 12:18 AM
I see what you are saying. Gay people are not allowed to show emotion at any time. It's OK for heterosexual couples to have huge homecomings on TV and have big photo spreads in the paper. But gays need to hide in the kitchen where no one can see them.
It's the 21st Century. Perhaps you should join.

Wow, you finally got one right.

ConHog
03-04-2012, 12:27 AM
Wow, you finally got one right.

Ur an idiot.

LuvRPgrl
03-04-2012, 01:29 AM
Ur an idiot.

well, thank you!

r u trying to strt a flame war?

tailfins
03-04-2012, 10:38 AM
There are two attitudes here. One is open disgust with the picture. The other is the rationalization of it. Regardless of what camp you're in, I think we all know deep down that there is something "wrong" with this.


P.S. I love Elton John! The man has made some great music over the years.


Neither one on my end. Just moderate annoyance that they choose to be obtuse to other people's sensibilities. So if I had to choose one word for these gays putting on a show it would be obtuse.

LuvRPgrl
03-04-2012, 02:12 PM
The soldier acted like he missed his mate..


thats a typical answer someone gives when they are hiding something. they ignore everytthing anyonne else has to say and look only at their narrow point of view, then call everyone else narrow minded and homophoebic.

Fact of the matter is people like you justgive homos more of a bad name.

ConHog
03-04-2012, 02:49 PM
well, thank you!

r u trying to strt a flame war?


No desire to start a flame war. I didn't even realize you were a Marine, let alone that you had been deployed. Welcome home. :lol:

Wind Song
03-04-2012, 03:45 PM
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thats a typical answer someone gives when they are hiding something. they ignore everytthing anyonne else has to say and look only at their narrow point of view, then call everyone else narrow minded and homophoebic.

Fact of the matter is people like you justgive homos more of a bad name.

I sure hope I irritate you.

DragonStryk72
03-05-2012, 12:49 AM
UNCLEAN!! You didn't serve your country! Ungrateful coward!! Kneel down and apologize to the wonderful vets at this board.
Better yet, have a drink with them. Or two. Or seven...

Oh great, so now I'm an alcoholic?! Now, my dad's an alcoholic, so thanks for that one, cause see, I understand what that term means, though you clearly don't, or just clearly don't care about being spiteful to them. As well, I don't use anyone else's pain as a tool, unlike you. You are a coward, Gabs, and you ineptly try to bully your way into a "debate", which is nothing more than trollbaiting in reality.

Now, either put up proof of my drinking or getting drunk, or back the fuck down. Or well, basically do the same pussy maneuver you always do and run off for another thread where all you'll do is this weak ass bullshit again. Oh, I suppose you'll come back with an "I don't give a shit" or some other trite bullshit, but let's be real, you don't have the spine to say "I'm sorry" and stop doing it.

This is why I hate having you on the same side of an argument as me: You lessen every fucking thing you touch.



Now, to Wind Song's posts: It's fine that she doesn't get it, and doesn't think it's offensive. She's not military, never has been, and unless I miss my guess, didn't grow up a mil brat, and she's a Buddhist, so yeah, she's gonna have a rampantly different view of it. So let's ratchet down a bit on this one. Just agree to disagree and let's move along.

However, Wind Song, you should answer questions when asked, it's just polite. You probably don't realize this, but you keep doing the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming, "I'M NOT LISTENING!". It puts people in an aggressive posture they wouldn't be in otherwise, and that doesn't seem to be what you want, just what you keep managing to create.

LuvRPgrl
03-05-2012, 04:24 PM
I sure hope I irritate you.


Hope all you want, you will never be able to irritate me. But I do feel pity for you and your kind.

LuvRPgrl
03-05-2012, 04:30 PM
No desire to start a flame war. I didn't even realize you were a Marine, let alone that you had been deployed. Welcome home. :lol:

You are a urinating turd brain.

gabosaurus
03-05-2012, 05:38 PM
You are a urinating turd brain.

For an insult to be effective, it needs to make sense. Thanks. :poke:

LiberalNation
03-06-2012, 07:38 AM
Is a beautiful picture and one more step forward. That it was a big bad marine makes it even more sweet. lol

CSM
03-06-2012, 07:41 AM
Is a beautiful picture and one more step forward. That it was a big bad marine makes it even more sweet. lol


A step forward towards what?

LiberalNation
03-06-2012, 08:21 AM
gay acceptance. The more gay images are out there as normal the more gay acceptance grows, the more gay acceptance grows, the likelyhood of equal rights increases.

CSM
03-06-2012, 08:45 AM
gay acceptance. The more gay images are out there as normal the more gay acceptance grows, the more gay acceptance grows, the likelyhood of equal rights increases.


Ummm ok. I suppose that once that happens we can move on to multiple spouse and partners, beastiality and pedophilia. Works for me as long as I do not have to engage in any of them.

LiberalNation
03-06-2012, 08:51 AM
Excepting multiple spouse, those other two activily harm another person/life hence they are wrong. Gay marriage harms no one and is actually quite good and healthy for homosexual couple.

And has long as you can support all those children I see nothing wrong with marrying more than one person.

CSM
03-06-2012, 08:56 AM
Excepting multiple spouse, those other two activily harm another person/life hence they are wrong. Gay marriage harms no one and is actually quite good and healthy for homosexual couple.

And has long as you can support all those children I see nothing wrong with marrying more than one person.

Your opinion is your opinion. There are many who argue that homosexuality is harmful (an argument which you have already dismissed but that's ok). You may not agree with those lifestyles but heck, if those who do participate in such a lifestyle post enough images, it will become accepted as normal (as you point out) and lead to equal rights. You don't have to like it, you just have to accept it!

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 11:32 AM
gay acceptance. The more gay images are out there as normal the more gay acceptance grows, the more gay acceptance grows, the likelyhood of equal rights increases.

Only no one sees it that way, other than the queers. Images such as this one do more harm to the cause if anything.

LuvRPgrl
03-06-2012, 11:45 AM
Is a beautiful picture and one more step forward. That it was a big bad marine makes it even more sweet. lol

yep,
one more step in the direction of this countries final demise and destruction

fj1200
03-06-2012, 11:49 AM
Is a beautiful picture and one more step forward.

It's a step back for those that supported repealing DADT. IMO it disrespects the uniform and reinforces the "hey look at me" stereotype.

LuvRPgrl
03-06-2012, 11:54 AM
Excepting multiple spouse, those other two activily harm another person/life hence they are wrong. Gay marriage harms no one and is actually quite good and healthy for homosexual couple.

And has long as you can support all those children I see nothing wrong with marrying more than one person.


beastiality harms no life if its consentual.
The sooner you admit what you already know, that homosexuality is abnormal, the sooner you will be free within your own mind.

fj1200
03-06-2012, 12:01 PM
beastiality harms no life if its consentual.

How can you tell? :poke:

ConHog
03-06-2012, 12:35 PM
Only no one sees it that way, other than the queers. Images such as this one do more harm to the cause if anything.

That's the part those fools just don't get. Be gay, who cares, just don't be bashing us around trying to get us to accept it. I've had a few of those homecomings, believe me I missed my wife, I didn't maul her in public like an animal though, and neither did any of the folks I served with.

ConHog
03-06-2012, 12:37 PM
beastiality harms no life if its consentual.
The sooner you admit what you already know, that homosexuality is abnormal, the sooner you will be free within your own mind.

Just when I think you can't get any dumber, you prove me wrong.

Are you telling me your sheep say "yessssssss baaaaaaaaaaaaby when you molest them?"

logroller
03-06-2012, 12:48 PM
Excepting multiple spouse, those other two activily harm another person/life hence they are wrong. Gay marriage harms no one and is actually quite good and healthy for homosexual couple.

And has long as you can support all those children I see nothing wrong with marrying more than one person.

I believe the fundamental intimacy of marriage demands it be a bilateral relationship.

LuvRPgrl
03-06-2012, 12:53 PM
How can you tell? :poke:

me doggie wags his tail while we are doing it.
Hey, if I ;do it with my female dog, does that mean Im not a homo?
'

LuvRPgrl
03-06-2012, 12:56 PM
Just when I think you can't get any dumber, you prove me wrong.

Are you telling me your sheep say "yessssssss baaaaaaaaaaaaby when you molest them?"

DONT BE SILLY,
My sheep dont speak english, they speak euro

consentual sex is not molesting.
the homo community is always ;telling us how homo sex in animals is prevelant and normal, so if dogs let other dogs pack their fudge,; why wouldnt they be willing to let their owners do it?

not to mention the burden of proof is on the accusers side, can they prove the animal DIDNT want to do it.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 02:32 PM
I believe the fundamental intimacy of marriage demands it be a bilateral relationship.

And many thought the fundementals of marriage demand it be one man and one woman. If it's changed to suit the lifestyle of homosexuals, with all of the reasoning given, I can find no reason to deny polygamists the same rights.

logroller
03-06-2012, 03:20 PM
And many thought the fundementals of marriage demand it be one man and one woman. If it's changed to suit the lifestyle of homosexuals, with all of the reasoning given, I can find no reason to deny polygamists the same rights.
Ok, fair enough; but many thought the fundamentals of marriage gave the man absolute dominion over the family; but that's not what made it marriage. What makes my marriage the same as anyone else's; what is it that We protect with marriage; why do we do it at all? There has to be some feature which is constant. I say its the simplest synergistic entity --A bilateral partnership. If one were to have three, you introduce the possibility of factionalism; which would compromise the wholesome synergy that marriage seeks to protect.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 03:26 PM
Ok, fair enough; but many thought the fundamentals of marriage gave the man absolute dominion over the family; but that's not what made it marriage. What makes my marriage the same as anyone else's; what is it that We protect with marriage; why do we do it at all? There has to be some feature which is constant. I say its the simplest synergistic entity --A bilateral partnership. If one were to have three, you introduce the possibility of factionalism; which would compromise the wholesome synergy that marriage seeks to protect.

You obviously know what I'm getting at, which is that marriage should have remained what it has been since forever. Once you start making changes, the changes continue. They should let religion determine "marriages" and let homos have civil unions with their "rights". But I'd like to see an argument when the polygamists step forward with the EXACT same arguments as the queers, telling them that those very arguments can't apply to them, as they are inferior to the gays.

LiberalNation
03-06-2012, 03:40 PM
marriage should have remained what it has been since forever
Marriage in most of the old testament was pologymist. Abraham had 4 wives, ect. The bible doesn't say anything against multi person unions.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 03:49 PM
Marriage in most of the old testament was pologymist. Abraham had 4 wives, ect. The bible doesn't say anything against multi person unions.

I'm not too awfully concerned what the bible states. I was more referring to the practice, which very well may have included polygamy in some places a long time ago, but by far and large it has been an institution between a man and a woman. But I'm also stating, that if you open the books to "redefine" marriage, the reasons given that allowed that change, should apply to others wishing to be "included".

ConHog
03-06-2012, 03:52 PM
I'm not too awfully concerned what the bible states. I was more referring to the practice, which very well may have included polygamy in some places a long time ago, but by far and large it has been an institution between a man and a woman. But I'm also stating, that if you open the books to "redefine" marriage, the reasons given that allowed that change, should apply to others wishing to be "included".

As long as every party willingly says " I do" let them have at.



Sorry LUV, that leaves your sheep out.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 03:57 PM
As long as every party willingly says " I do" let them have at.



Sorry LUV, that leaves your sheep out.

As I said earlier, give them civil unions, contracts or whatever the hell it is they think they need from the government for "equality". Leave it up to religions as to whether or not they choose to marry anyone. Like Wind Song rants on about, some 1000+ federal rights supposedly - good, let them have them, and call it whatever they want, but leave "marriage" within religion.

logroller
03-06-2012, 04:18 PM
You obviously know what I'm getting at, which is that marriage should have remained what it has been since forever. Once you start making changes, the changes continue. They should let religion determine "marriages" and let homos have civil unions with their "rights". But I'd like to see an argument when the polygamists step forward with the EXACT same arguments as the queers, telling them that those very arguments can't apply to them, as they are inferior to the gays.

Hey look, I'm fine with that-- but then the state can't issue "marriage" licenses then; lest it would be an establishment.

logroller
03-06-2012, 04:23 PM
Marriage in most of the old testament was pologymist. Abraham had 4 wives, ect. The bible doesn't say anything against multi person unions.
and it talked a lot about slavery too; but I don't suppose that means we should make slavery legal
...and I'm not quite sure why one would use the Bible to defend a US policy, which should be sectarian in application; More often than not, it runs afoul of the anti-establishment clause.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 04:27 PM
Hey look, I'm fine with that-- but then the state can't issue "marriage" licenses then; lest it would be an establishment.

Then take marriage completely away from the government, as it should be anyway, and allow the respective religions determine how they want to handle "marriage".

logroller
03-06-2012, 04:32 PM
Then take marriage completely away from the government, as it should be anyway, and allow the respective religions determine how they want to handle "marriage".

If Prop8 said that I would have voted for it!
But show me a petition, and I shall sign it.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 04:38 PM
If Prop8 said that I would have voted for it!
But show me a petition, and I shall sign it.

Prop 8 said otherwise as homos didn't want civil unions, they want to be "identical" to man/women marriages. And if what we are now discussing comes to fruition, they'll get the same "benefits" from the government, but will be categorized differently than "traditional" married couples. Sounds like they are going full circle. That's because in reality they really want acceptance and for others to see them as normal. Problem is, you can't force people to do so.

logroller
03-06-2012, 04:48 PM
Prop 8 said otherwise as homos didn't want civil unions, they want to be "identical" to man/women marriages. And if what we are now discussing comes to fruition, they'll get the same "benefits" from the government, but will be categorized differently than "traditional" married couples. Sounds like they are going full circle. That's because in reality they really want acceptance and for others to see them as normal. Problem is, you can't force people to do so.
No you can't; but govt isn't supposed to be enforcing 'normal', but rather, enforce equally. I happen to like it that way.

ConHog
03-06-2012, 04:52 PM
As I said earlier, give them civil unions, contracts or whatever the hell it is they think they need from the government for "equality". Leave it up to religions as to whether or not they choose to marry anyone. Like Wind Song rants on about, some 1000+ federal rights supposedly - good, let them have them, and call it whatever they want, but leave "marriage" within religion.

100% agreed. The problem is you only want to use YOUR religion's definition (unless I'm just reading you wrong?) I say government out, let each church marry anyone they want and let the rest of us make fun of marriages that we don't consider to be marriages. It's the only fair thing. :laugh2:

logroller
03-06-2012, 05:03 PM
Hey what's the difference between a man and woman getting married and a man and woman getting a civil union?

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 05:14 PM
100% agreed. The problem is you only want to use YOUR religion's definition (unless I'm just reading you wrong?) I say government out, let each church marry anyone they want and let the rest of us make fun of marriages that we don't consider to be marriages. It's the only fair thing. :laugh2:

You're reading wrong. I said get the government out of the marriage business. Then let each religion decide if they want to "marry" people or not.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 05:17 PM
Hey what's the difference between a man and woman getting married and a man and woman getting a civil union?

Being grouped into the same bunch. While I know marriage has it's share of faults, I'd really rather not be lumped into the same group as a bunch of queers.

logroller
03-06-2012, 05:20 PM
You're reading wrong. I said get the government out of the marriage business. Then let each religion decide if they want to "marry" people or not.

I'm assuming the engaged parties have a say in the matter; shouldn't they get to decide? Or does religion have a proprietary interest in marriage? :poke:;)

logroller
03-06-2012, 05:24 PM
Being grouped into the same bunch. While I know marriage has it's share of faults, I'd really rather not be lumped into the same group as a bunch of queers.

Certainly there are Americans who don't represent your values...should I assume you'd rather not be lumped into that group either?

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 05:24 PM
I'm assuming the engaged parties have a say in the matter; shouldn't they get to decide? Or does religion have a proprietary interest in marriage? :poke:;)

If you're Catholic, and a queer, and the church doesn't want to marry you, that's their choice. Others are free to do the opposite I suppose.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 05:27 PM
Certainly there are Americans who don't represent your values...should I assume you'd rather not be lumped into that group either?

That's correct. I don't want to be the same as queers, and I don't want to be labeled as a queer supporter.

ConHog
03-06-2012, 05:28 PM
You're reading wrong. I said get the government out of the marriage business. Then let each religion decide if they want to "marry" people or not.

Glad to hear it, we agree.

ConHog
03-06-2012, 05:31 PM
If you're Catholic, and a queer, and the church doesn't want to marry you, that's their choice. Others are free to do the opposite I suppose.

Once again agree, and I really think that is the fatal flaw in what we would be okay with. There are MANY militants who are not going to be okay with simply being able to get married at THEIR church they will want to force OUR church to marry them to.

It's a mess that's for sure.

logroller
03-06-2012, 05:40 PM
That's correct. I don't want to be the same as queers, and I don't want to be labeled as a queer supporter.
Even if that means you're labelled as unAmerican? Ironically, thanks to American laws, that's a stance you're free to take in America. Regardless of marriage laws, I can still label you a queer supporter.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 05:57 PM
Even if that means you're labelled as unAmerican? Ironically, thanks to American laws, that's a stance you're free to take in America. Regardless of marriage laws, I can still label you a queer supporter.

It hardly makes me unAmerican to not want to be equated with queers, or to be labeled as supporting them. I've never stated that you couldn't still call me so, but the facts would go against what you're saying. And of course, yes, people still CAN label me as unAmerican for not wanting to be labeled as such. If that be the case, I'm in very good company, and content with myself and my stance.

LuvRPgrl
03-06-2012, 06:16 PM
As long as every party willingly says " I do" let them have at.



Sorry LUV, that leaves your sheep out.

No it doesnt. R U saying that mutes cant get married?

LuvRPgrl
03-06-2012, 06:27 PM
Ok, fair enough; but many thought the fundamentals of marriage gave the man absolute dominion over the family; but that's not what made it marriage. What makes my marriage the same as anyone else's; what is it that We protect with marriage; why do we do it at all? There has to be some feature which is constant. I say its the simplest synergistic entity --A bilateral partnership. If one were to have three, you introduce the possibility of factionalism; which would compromise the wholesome synergy that marriage seeks to protect.W

absolutely good question.
it leads to the final question,
Why do we care if people are married or not?

ConHog
03-06-2012, 06:40 PM
No it doesnt. R U saying that mutes cant get married?

Mutes can "say " "I do" via sign language.

You're a joke old man.

logroller
03-06-2012, 07:08 PM
It hardly makes me unAmerican to not want to be equated with queers, or to be labeled as supporting them. I've never stated that you couldn't still call me so, but the facts would go against what you're saying. And of course, yes, people still CAN label me as unAmerican for not wanting to be labeled as such. If that be the case, I'm in very good company, and content with myself and my stance.

I meant non-American; not unAmerican. You're logic is all out of whack -- you being married whilst gays are married doesn't mean you're gay, your marriage is gay or that you support either. That's why I used the American label; because you are American, and so are some gays-- so based on your logic, you shouldn't like being labelled as American-- and you agreed. Regardless, how something is labelled doesn't make it fact.

LuvRPgrl
03-06-2012, 07:23 PM
Mutes can "say " "I do" via sign language.

You're a joke old man.


so animals cant communicate thru non verbal means?

ConHog
03-06-2012, 07:34 PM
so animals cant communicate thru non verbal means?


Just shut up

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 07:38 PM
I meant non-American; not unAmerican. You're logic is all out of whack -- you being married whilst gays are married doesn't mean you're gay, your marriage is gay or that you support either. That's why I used the American label; because you are American, and so are some gays-- so based on your logic, you shouldn't like being labelled as American-- and you agreed. Regardless, how something is labelled doesn't make it fact.

Call it out of whack, call it whatever you want, I simply don't want to be associated with queers. Some things I can control and fight for, others I can't. If I had a privately owned baseball team, for example, I would eliminate queers in anyway possible. It's not that letting one or two play would make the team queer, but I just don't want to be on the same team, or be associated as the same "group" as them.

LuvRPgrl
03-06-2012, 07:39 PM
Just shut up

wow, how surprising, you're online.!

blacks ;use to be considered sub human, they used the same arguement you just laid out, congrat;ulations, you would have supported slavery

logroller
03-06-2012, 08:23 PM
Call it out of whack, call it whatever you want, I simply don't want to be associated with queers. Some things I can control and fight for, others I can't. If I had a privately owned baseball team, for example, I would eliminate queers in anyway possible. It's not that letting one or two play would make the team queer, but I just don't want to be on the same team, or be associated as the same "group" as them.

I still don't see how gays getting married associates you with them. I've met several people with my same name-- but that doesn't make us kin.

jimnyc
03-06-2012, 08:59 PM
I still don't see how gays getting married associates you with them. I've met several people with my same name-- but that doesn't make us kin.

I guess you just don't feel as strongly about the issue as I do. I don't want to be considered on the same playing field as queers. Although Christian in background, I still see marriage as "Holy Matrimony", and queerness flies in the face of the marriage I yearned for my whole life until my wife and I traded vows.

logroller
03-06-2012, 09:35 PM
I guess you just don't feel as strongly about the issue as I do. I don't want to be considered on the same playing field as queers. Although Christian in background, I still see marriage as "Holy Matrimony", and queerness flies in the face of the marriage I yearned for my whole life until my wife and I traded vows.

Analogy-wise...I had assumed you don't play the field with queers. :thumb:

and FWIW, I'm pretty strongly against playing the field when you're married.

You're probably right, I don't think I feel as strongly against gayness as you do; but that doesn't mean I'm for it. I feel the same way about gayness as I do idiocy-- I'd try to talk them out of it, but if straight porn and reason don't do the trick, I accept it as something I cannot change and move on. Do I like that people don't live their lives in the healthiest way possible, as our bodies were intended? Of course I don't, but would Jesus instruct us to cast legislative 'stones'?

ConHog
03-07-2012, 09:33 AM
wow, how surprising, you're online.!

blacks ;use to be considered sub human, they used the same arguement you just laid out, congrat;ulations, you would have supported slavery

You get a little more childish everyday. I suggest a CAT scan.

Abbey Marie
03-07-2012, 10:14 AM
I meant non-American; not unAmerican. You're logic is all out of whack -- you being married whilst gays are married doesn't mean you're gay, your marriage is gay or that you support either. That's why I used the American label; because you are American, and so are some gays-- so based on your logic, you shouldn't like being labelled as American-- and you agreed. Regardless, how something is labelled doesn't make it fact.

Actually, being "American" wasn't voluntary on Jim's part, and he would have to go through steps to undo that status. Marriage however, was voluntary for him. so one could argue that he chooses to enter into an act that is tied to gays, and therefore shows support for them via support for the institution.

It's not a very particularly strong argument, but certainly much stronger than your American analogy.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 10:42 AM
If a hetersexual couple was caught on camera embracing in this manner it wouldn't even be news, uniform or not.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 10:45 AM
If a hetersexual couple was caught on camera embracing in this manner it wouldn't even be news, uniform or not.

If it was caught on camera, and placed on the news/media, I would still say it's disgusting. And it would still be against regulations. So stop your bellyaching. Your fellow queers made you all look bad, you'll get over it.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 10:46 AM
If it was caught on camera, and placed on the news/media, I would still say it's disgusting. And it would still be against regulations. So stop your bellyaching. Your fellow queers made you all look bad, you'll get over it.

This man's action is NO reflection on me. I'm not in the military, or a gay man.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 10:49 AM
This man's action is NO reflection on me. I'm not in the military, or a gay man.

He is a reflection of the queer movement. That's why you're so interested in this thread.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 10:57 AM
He is a reflection of the queer movement. That's why you're so interested in this thread.

No, it isn't a reflection of the "queer movement". It's a reflection of hypocrisy. The same behavior done by a het would get a pass. The military would be far better addressing it's own sexual harassment problems before making a big deal out of a public kiss.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 10:58 AM
No, it isn't a reflection of the "queer movement". It's a reflection of hypocrisy. The same behavior done by a het would get a pass.

Only heteros have self respect, and don't act like animals, that's why you'll never find a picture of one doing the same. Remember when you said it would be "easy" to find a picture of one doing so? LOL

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:02 AM
Only heteros have self respect, and don't act like animals, that's why you'll never find a picture of one doing the same. Remember when you said it would be "easy" to find a picture of one doing so? LOL


You're telling me that I must have no self respect and must act like an animal because I'm not heterosexual. Prove it.

Famous 1945 picture of soldier kissing girlfriend in Times Square. That would also meet the definition of conduct unbecoming, yet we all love it.

You're a hypocrite.

Go into google images and you see plenty of photos of soldiers kissing.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:03 AM
You're telling me that I must have no self respect and must act like an animal because I'm not heterosexual. Prove it.

I was speaking of the animal in the picture. But it's odd that you clap and stand up for people who can't control their urges and act like animals.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:09 AM
I was speaking of the animal in the picture. But it's odd that you clap and stand up for people who can't control their urges and act like animals.


You were generalizing to ALL gay people which includes me. I salute the relief a soldier feels coming home and the free expression of affection.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:11 AM
You were generalizing to ALL gay people which includes me. I salute the relief a soldier feels coming home and the free expression of affection.

Of course, you salute people acting like filthy animals. Most soldiers disagree and know there are regulations. You will find NO picture EVER of another soldier straddling in such a manner. Only filthy animals!

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:20 AM
Of course, you salute people acting like filthy animals. Most soldiers disagree and know there are regulations. You will find NO picture EVER of another soldier straddling in such a manner. Only filthy animals!


It's only "filthy" because you hate gay men. I've seen tons of photos of soldiers folding their GF over backwards, over cars, etc. but that gets a pass from you, hypocrite.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:23 AM
It's only "filthy" because you hate gay men. I've seen tons of photos of soldiers folding their GF over backwards, over cars, etc. but that gets a pass from you, hypocrite.

Because they aren't straddling one another, they are being respectful of others, and showing a little self respect.

YOU are the lying, hypocrite, Dorothy! Click your heels together and come back from Oz.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:28 AM
Because they aren't straddling one another, they are being respectful of others, and showing a little self respect.

YOU are the lying, hypocrite, Dorothy! Click your heels together and come back from Oz.


Nope. It doesn't bother me when a straight soldier tips his GF back over a car and straddles her and this gay couple doesn't bother me either.

You're the hypocrite because you think gays should play to a higher standard than straights. BS.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:30 AM
Nope. It doesn't bother me when a straight soldier tips his GF back over a car and straddles her and this gay couple doesn't bother me either.

You're the hypocrite because you think gays should play to a higher standard than straights. BS.

Show me the picture you speak of, of a straight soldier straddling...

And no, dumb dyke, I expect the animals to act just like the straight soldiers, within regulations.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:35 AM
Show me the picture you speak of, of a straight soldier straddling...

And no, dumb dyke, I expect the animals to act just like the straight soldiers, within regulations.


Find it yourself. Google Images of soldiers kissing.

Nice use of bigoted slurs and personal attack, moderator. Put yourself in a three day ban for that.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:36 AM
Find it yourself. Google Images of soldiers kissing.

Nice use of bigoted slurs, moderator. Put yourself in a three day ban for that.

YOU made the claim, so YOU back it up. Or are you too stupid to link to an image?

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:37 AM
YOU made the claim, so YOU back it up. Or are you too stupid to link to an image?


Use of slurs and personal attack. Three day ban.

I've told you where you can find the photos.

Jess
03-07-2012, 11:37 AM
You were generalizing to ALL gay people which includes me. I salute the relief a soldier feels coming home and the free expression of affection.

The soldier's homecoming can be celebrated and saluted all you want. But the regulation is that there is no PDA in public. A hug is about the limit for a soldier coming home to his (or her) family. There is no "free expression of affection". That is for once they get home.

If a gay man or woman wants to jump their partner's bones, they have to wait until they are in a private place, just like everyone else.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:39 AM
Use of slurs and personal attack. Three day ban.

You call me a hypocrite for taking a different stance on images, but refuse to post the image? Maybe because the image doesn't exist, liar?

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:40 AM
The soldier's homecoming can be celebrated and saluted all you want. But the regulation is that there is no PDA in public. A hug is about the limit for a soldier coming home to his (or her) family. There is no "free expression of affection". That is for once they get home.

If a gay man or woman wants to jump their partner's bones, they have to wait until they are in a private place, just like everyone else.


Here's how I see it. I'm not military. I could care less if a straight soldier bends his GF back over a car and straddles her or if a gay man jumps in his partners arms.

I understand there are regulations, but I have seen straights break those regulations without the ridiculous outrage of this event.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:41 AM
Here's how I see it. I'm not military. I could care less if a straight soldier bends his GF back over a car and straddles her or if a gay man jumps in his partners arms.

I understand there are regulations, but I have seen straights break those regulations without the ridiculous outrage of this event.

Only you just make up your own versions to say heteros do it to, but outright refuse to backup what you say. Post the picture and let's see if people are hypocritical or not.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:42 AM
You call me a hypocrite for taking a different stance on images, but refuse to post the image? Maybe because the image doesn't exist, liar?

Listen Mr Moderator.

You use bigoted slurs and get away with it. That is total bullshit. Don't refer to me by a bigoted slur again.

I don't know how to post photos. That doesn't make me stupid, just inexperienced. If you really want to see those photos go find them yourself.

You're acting very ugly today.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:44 AM
Listen Mr Moderator.

You use bigoted slurs and get away with it. That is total bullshit. Don't refer to me by a bigoted slur again.

I don't know how to post photos. That doesn't make me stupid, just inexperienced. If you really want to see those photos go find them yourself.

You're acting very ugly today.

Fuck you, animal. I'll do as I please. I'm not the one who moderated you, so kindly go fuck yourself.

Now are you going to continue lying, or post the picture, slimy dyke dorothy?

Jess
03-07-2012, 11:44 AM
Here's how I see it. I'm not military. I could care less if a straight soldier bends his GF back over a car and straddles her or if a gay man jumps in his partners arms.

I understand there are regulations, but I have seen straights break those regulations without the ridiculous outrage of this event.

Ok. Where have you seen it? A picture of the soldier (male or female, gay or straight) that is hanging on their partner like this one? That's where the "ridiculous outrage" comes from. Heck, I wouldn't even wrap my legs around my man who was coming home in public. There should be some amount of decorum along with the happiness at being back together again, don't you think?

For the record, I don't care if they're gay or straight either. But I have never seen a picture where the homecoming soldier was latched onto his mate like a tick.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:45 AM
Ok. Where have you seen it? A picture of the soldier (male or female, gay or straight) that is hanging on their partner like this one? That's where the "ridiculous outrage" comes from. Heck, I wouldn't even wrap my legs around my man who was coming home in public. There should be some amount of decorum along with the happiness at being back together again, don't you think?

For the record, I don't care if they're gay or straight either. But I have never seen a picture where the homecoming soldier was latched onto his mate like a tick.

She's already a known liar, Jess, If she had a chance to place a hetero in the same position, she would do it. The dirty dyke is just making shit up.

Jess
03-07-2012, 11:45 AM
Listen Mr Moderator.

You use bigoted slurs and get away with it. That is total bullshit. Don't refer to me by a bigoted slur again.

I don't know how to post photos. That doesn't make me stupid, just inexperienced. If you really want to see those photos go find them yourself.

You're acting very ugly today.

I could walk you through the photo-posting process, if you like. I've done that for others and would be happy to do so for you too.

Or, if it's easier for you, post the link and someone here can post the actual picture.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:45 AM
Ok. Where have you seen it? A picture of the soldier (male or female, gay or straight) that is hanging on their partner like this one? That's where the "ridiculous outrage" comes from. Heck, I wouldn't even wrap my legs around my man who was coming home in public. There should be some amount of decorum along with the happiness at being back together again, don't you think?

For the record, I don't care if they're gay or straight either. But I have never seen a picture where the homecoming soldier was latched onto his mate like a tick.


If you check google images under the "soldier kissing" you will see a number of images including one of a soldier who has his GF backward over a car and he is straddling her.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 11:47 AM
She's already a known liar, Jess, If she had a chance to place a hetero in the same position, she would do it. The dirty dyke is just making shit up.


That's it. I'm not going to allow you to refer to me by a bigoted slur. Bye.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:47 AM
If you check google images under the "soldier kissing" you will see a number of images including one of a soldier who has his GF backward over a car and he is straddling her.

I typed that in and am up to page 18, no picture that you describe is there. Click on the image, then copy/past the URL at the top, we'll happily go to the page you link to in order to see the picture you describe. If you're going to continually refuse, then I see no point in you bringing it up.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:49 AM
That's it. I'm not going to allow you to refer to me by a bigoted slur. Bye.

Adios! You claim to hate name calling, then admit you like it when it's a liberal pundit, then you go non-stop name calling yourself against others, and now back to claiming it's an issue. Fuck off, hypocritical dyke Dorothy.

WE KNOW YOU'RE ONLY BAILING BECAUSE YOU ARE BUSTED LYING AND CANNOT PRODUCE THE PICTURE YOU MADE UP IN YOUR IMAGINATION.

Nice try, Dorothy! :coffee: :laugh2:

Abbey Marie
03-07-2012, 11:54 AM
You were generalizing to ALL gay people which includes me. I salute the relief a soldier feels coming home and the free expression of affection.

If you think straddling your lover genitals-to-genitals is just an "expression of affection" we are not dealing from the same deck. Public expressions of affection are usually sweet, not sexual, in nature. Like my granny giving me a hug or a kiss, or my husband holding my hand, or giving me a short kiss.

Once there is straddling between two adults, a line has been crossed.

Jess
03-07-2012, 11:55 AM
If you check google images under the "soldier kissing" you will see a number of images including one of a soldier who has his GF backward over a car and he is straddling her.

I did as you suggested and found many pictures of people hugging, perhaps even kissing but not a single soldier, save this one, was hanging onto/being held up off the ground with legs wrapped around their partner as this one is.

ConHog
03-07-2012, 11:56 AM
That's it. I'm not going to allow you to refer to me by a bigoted slur. Bye.

Why do you care if Jim is bigoted towards you? It doesn't affect your life in anyway. That's been my point since the first time I seen you post SKy. Why are you hell bent on other people treating gay as equal? WHO CARES

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:57 AM
I did as you suggested and found many pictures of people hugging, perhaps even kissing but not a single soldier, save this one, was hanging onto/being held up off the ground with legs wrapped around their partner as this one is.

Same here. She simply made it up assuming we would believe her. She got called on it and is now making excuses to leave rather than admit she's wrong or post the picture. Her claim is that she's mad at name calling, the very name calling she's engaged in within the past week. The name calling she said in the beginning that she didn't like. That was before it was a liberal pundit. And before someone here rubbed her the wrong way.

She's a very confused individual, which of course explains a LOT. :laugh: :laugh2:

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 11:58 AM
Why do you care if Jim is bigoted towards you? It doesn't affect your life in anyway. That's been my point since the first time I seen you post SKy. Why are you hell bent on other people treating gay as equal? WHO CARES

She's got emotional issues. I said this a long time ago. Picture one of those clocks, you know, the old ones, where a little birdie comes out and goes "cuckoo, cuckoo".

LuvRPgrl
03-07-2012, 12:39 PM
You get a little more childish everyday. I suggest a CAT scan.


I believe it was/is ;your arguement that animals cant consent?
If so, then you brought it up.

LuvRPgrl
03-07-2012, 12:55 PM
Use of slurs and personal attack. Three day ban.

I've told you where you can find the photos.

Where's the beef, errr, pic?
I looked and couldnt find it
you expect us to prove it doesnt exist?

Ok then, I saw a video of gay leaders saying they admit they've been wrong all along and fudge packing is indeed abnormal, sick and disgusting.

LiberalNation
03-07-2012, 04:54 PM
Considering how many straight couples do anal, I wouldn't say most consider it disgusting.

I'm a lesbian and certainly don't mind a lil anal play from my gf from time to time, intensifies the experience in all that.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 04:59 PM
Considering how many straight couples do anal, I wouldn't say most consider it disgusting.

I'm a lesbian and certainly don't mind a lil anal play from my gf from time to time, intensifies the experience in all that.

I admire your honesty, I really do, but some information is too much sometimes! :laugh2:

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 05:00 PM
Considering how many straight couples do anal, I wouldn't say most consider it disgusting.

I'm a lesbian and certainly don't mind a lil anal play from my gf from time to time, intensifies the experience in all that.

What does this have to do with the OP?

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 05:01 PM
What does this have to do with the OP?

If you can post about your queerness, so can the baby dyke! :lol:

LiberalNation
03-07-2012, 05:02 PM
What does this have to do with the OP?

fudge packing is indeed abnormal, sick and disgusting

response to a post, whole point of a masg board.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 05:03 PM
If you can post about your queerness, so can the baby dyke! :lol:
Just because you fancy her is no reason to pretend the post is on topic.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 05:04 PM
Just because you fancy her is no reason to pretend the post is on topic.

I fancy her? LOL Even she'll tell you otherwise. But I do applaud her for her thick skin, her ability to speak freely and ability to stand her ground - without turning into a little ninny.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 05:05 PM
I fancy her? LOL Even she'll tell you otherwise. But I do applaud her for her thick skin, her ability to speak freely and ability to stand her ground - without turning into a little ninny.

I speak freely and stand my ground and you can't stand it. What I don't do, is suffer fools gladly.

ConHog
03-07-2012, 06:03 PM
I admire your honesty, I really do, but some information is too much sometimes! :laugh2:


Damn straight.

I could have went my entire life without knowing of anyone on here's anal likes or dislikes. gag

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 06:09 PM
Damn straight.

I could have went my entire life without knowing of anyone on here's anal likes or dislikes. gag

I'm gonna get in trouble for this, I know that, but I thought it was kinda cute coming from LN aka baby dyke. Probably better off whispering it in her girlfriends ear than announcing it to the public though!

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 06:17 PM
I'm gonna get in trouble for this, I know that, but I thought it was kinda cute coming from LN aka baby dyke. Probably better off whispering it in her girlfriends ear than announcing it to the public though!

You got off on it, did you?

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 06:21 PM
You got off on it, did you?

Thinking it was funny because I know LN, and "getting off on it", are 2 very different things.

ConHog
03-07-2012, 06:23 PM
Thinking it was funny because I know LN, and "getting off on it", are 2 very different things.

Windy was just confused b/c she's never had any man get off b/c of her.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 06:27 PM
Windy was just confused b/c she's never had any man get off b/c of her.
I've had more than enough offers. No, means no, Connie.

ConHog
03-07-2012, 06:34 PM
I've had more than enough offers. No, means no, Connie.

Does an offer mean any guy has got off b/c of you? No? Then what I said was entirely true.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 06:39 PM
Does an offer mean any guy has got off b/c of you? No? Then what I said was entirely true.

It's none of your business.

logroller
03-07-2012, 06:51 PM
It's none of your business.
Funny, (read: [hypocritically]) you seemed perfectly content speaking to Jim's business of getting off of LN's anal experimentation...

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 06:56 PM
Funny, (read: [hypocritically]) you seemed perfectly content speaking to Jim's business of getting off of LN's anal experimentation...

Hey you bastards! I'll let you know when I'm getting off, and this ain't one of them times! LOL

logroller
03-07-2012, 07:06 PM
Hey you bastards! I'll let you know when I'm getting off, and this ain't one of them times! LOL
bastard please...we're all in like company here, no need to be bashful-- if you didn't get off on argument you'd be on a social networking site.:beer:

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Funny, (read: [hypocritically]) you seemed perfectly content speaking to Jim's business of getting off of LN's anal experimentation...

Jim outed himself. He thinks her anal sex thang is cute.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 07:36 PM
bastard please...we're all in like company here, no need to be bashful-- if you didn't get off on argument you'd be on a social networking site.:beer:

Ok, ok, you got me. I do get a special joy out of arguing/debating. I just don't come to a political site to get my fill of anal/lesbian talk!! :laugh2:


Jim outed himself. He thinks her anal sex thang is cute.

I think it was cute coming from baby dyke. You're just jealous that she's a lesbo and gets respect here.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 07:38 PM
Ok, ok, you got me. I do get a special joy out of arguing/debating. I just don't come to a political site to get my fill of anal/lesbian talk!! :laugh2:



I think it was cute coming from baby dyke. You're just jealous that she's a lesbo and gets respect here.

I'm not jealous at all. I'm sure she earned it. She's put up with you for one thing.

Funny, we were having a great time the other day. What happened? I enjoyed you until you started using those slurs.

logroller
03-07-2012, 07:40 PM
Jim outed himself. He thinks her anal sex thang is cute.

You're such a girl... No guy would ever use anal sex and cute in the same sentence.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 07:45 PM
You're such a girl... No guy would ever use anal sex and cute in the same sentence.

I remind you that Jim did just that. He's such a girl!

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 07:45 PM
I'm not jealous at all. I'm sure she earned it. She's put up with you for one thing.

Funny, we were having a great time the other day. What happened? I enjoyed you until you started using those slurs.

Oh please, grow thicker skin. If you can't handle the term "dyke", then you shouldn't be running around the internet telling everyone you're a lesbian. I get called 3x worse from my friends and 5x worse from family. You're a bit emotional at times and play the victim too much. Everyone are adults here, some walk on egg shells while others just blurt it out. I just blurt it out. Don't act like I'm committing a crime for speaking my beliefs as loud as I can.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 07:47 PM
I remind you that Jim did just that. He's such a girl!

I have no problem admitting I'm in touch with my "feminine side". To this day, I still cry when Frosty melts, and when Rudolph runs away.

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 07:49 PM
Oh please, grow thicker skin. If you can't handle the term "dyke", then you shouldn't be running around the internet telling everyone you're a lesbian. I get called 3x worse from my friends and 5x worse from family. You're a bit emotional at times and play the victim too much. Everyone are adults here, some walk on egg shells while others just blurt it out. I just blurt it out. Don't act like I'm committing a crime for speaking my beliefs as loud as I can.


I will always speak out against the use of racial slurs, and all other. That's my responsibility. To educate about hate speech.

logroller
03-07-2012, 07:53 PM
Jim outed himself. He thinks her anal sex thang is cute.

He said he thought her mentioning it was cute; not that anal sex was. Kinda like when your grandma mentions something kinda risque; its cute that she brought it up-- but ugh!

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 07:56 PM
I will always speak out against the use of racial slurs, and all other. That's my responsibility. To educate about hate speech.

It might be a habit of yours, but it's not your responsibility, at least not on this board.

What's your thoughts on me calling Obama "McChimpy"? We dealt with 8+ years of hearing GWB compared to a chimp, pictures and all. I think Obama looks much more like a chimp than GWB does. So my nickname for him is McChimpy. But for some odd reason, those that used the very same names for GWB, are now upset with Obama being compared in the exact same manner. Odd, ain't it?

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 07:56 PM
He said he thought her mentioning it was cute; not that anal sex was. Kinda like when your grandma mentions something kinda risque; its cute that she brought it up-- but ugh!


He's into anal sex, isn't he? I thought he mentioned he was.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 07:57 PM
He said he thought her mentioning it was cute; not that anal sex was. Kinda like when your grandma mentions something kinda risque; its cute that she brought it up-- but ugh!

Thank you, someone can read. Knowing LN, I just thought the way she said it was cute. She didn't think twice about blurting it out cause I know she din't give a rats ass what others think. THAT, I like and can respect!

Wind Song
03-07-2012, 07:59 PM
It might be a habit of yours, but it's not your responsibility, at least not on this board.

What's your thoughts on me calling Obama "McChimpy"? We dealt with 8+ years of hearing GWB compared to a chimp, pictures and all. I think Obama looks much more like a chimp than GWB does. So my nickname for him is McChimpy. But for some odd reason, those that used the very same names for GWB, are now upset with Obama being compared in the exact same manner. Odd, ain't it?

It is my responsibility as a human being to speak out against hate speech.

jimnyc
03-07-2012, 08:00 PM
He's into anal sex, isn't he? I thought he mentioned he was.

Uhhhh, no. Never did so with a woman, and sure as fuck never happened with another man. But I have enjoyed watching a few pornos where it took place. I also enjoy horror movies where people get their heads sawed off too, so I don't think my playlist means much.