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Kathianne
04-02-2012, 04:40 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/president-obamacare-191235956.html


President Obama on Monday issued stern language to the Supreme Court of the United States regarding his health care law, expressing confidence "Obamacare" will not be overturned by the nation's highest court.


"I'm confident this will be upheld because it should be upheld," the president said Monday afternoon at a White House press conference that included ‪Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who are attending the North American Leaders' Summit. The president said overturning the law would be "an unprecedented and extraordinary step" and compared the court's rejection of the law to "judicial activism."...

jimnyc
04-02-2012, 04:51 PM
Damn, he thinks THAT'S activism? Where was he speaking out on such matters in Cali and elsewhere, where the will of the people was overturned by courts. Anyhoo, he's a damn idiot for stating they would be doing such, simply because they would be sticking to what the Constitution allows for. I think the SC knows better than to listen to this administrations garbage tactics.

Kathianne
04-02-2012, 05:11 PM
Damn, he thinks THAT'S activism? Where was he speaking out on such matters in Cali and elsewhere, where the will of the people was overturned by courts. Anyhoo, he's a damn idiot for stating they would be doing such, simply because they would be sticking to what the Constitution allows for. I think the SC knows better than to listen to this administrations garbage tactics.

One would hope they learned their lesson early on:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k92SerxLWtc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k92SerxLWtc)

Thunderknuckles
04-02-2012, 07:39 PM
Not intimidation as I see it. At least not yet.
The Obama Administration has played it fast and loose in their interpretation of what they believe is constitutional.
Now, while judges may be appointed for life, they may do so only while adhering to Article III, Section 1 of the Constitution which states judges " hold their offices during good behaviour"
If the SCOTUS strikes down ObamaCare in any form and Obama starts talking about the behaviour of the SCOTUS, it's time to worry.

ConHog
04-02-2012, 08:47 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/president-obamacare-191235956.html

Anyone who breaks out the "judicial activism" claims should be laughed at.

LuvRPgrl
04-03-2012, 12:08 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/president-obamacare-191235956.html

typical obama mis information to deceive the people.
What most people disdain is when the high court commits judicial activism pertaining to laws that were passed by proposistions, because that is a direct will of the people

Aeryn Sun
04-03-2012, 02:32 PM
SCOTUS already made their decision last Friday.

Obama's words won't change what is.

Gator Monroe
04-03-2012, 03:07 PM
Zero & Big Sis HAVE Amnesty almost foisted on America !

Kathianne
04-04-2012, 05:29 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504564_162-57408827-504564/appeals-court-fires-back-at-obamas-comments-on-health-care-case/


April 3, 2012 3:42 PM
Appeals court fires back at Obama's comments on health care case <dl class="storyBlogByline"><dt class="storyBlogBy">By </dt><dd> Jan Crawford (http://www.cbsnews.com/2102-504564_162-57408827.html?contributor=46834) </dd></dl> http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/04/02/Obama040212_244x183.jpg (Credit: AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
Updated 6:55 p.m. ET

(CBS News) In the escalating battle between the administration and the judiciary, a federal appeals court apparently is calling the president's bluff -- ordering the Justice Department to answer by Thursday whether the Obama Administration believes that the courts have the right to strike down a federal law, according to a lawyer who was in the courtroom.


The order, by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, appears to be in direct response to the president's comments yesterday about the Supreme Court's review of the health care law (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57408181-503544/obama-supreme-court-overturning-health-care-would-be-unprecedented/). Mr. Obama all but threw down the gauntlet with the justices, saying he was "confident" the Court would not "take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress."


Overturning a law of course would not be unprecedented -- since the Supreme Court since 1803 has asserted the power to strike down laws it interprets as unconstitutional. The three-judge appellate court appears to be asking the administration to admit that basic premise -- despite the president's remarks that implied the contrary. The panel ordered the Justice Department to submit a three-page, single-spaced letter by noon Thursday addressing whether the Executive Branch believes courts have such power, the lawyer said.


The panel is hearing a separate challenge to the health care law by physician-owned hospitals. The issue arose when a lawyer for the Justice Department began arguing before the judges. Appeals Court Judge Jerry Smith immediately interrupted, asking if DOJ agreed that the judiciary could strike down an unconstitutional law.


The DOJ lawyer, Dana Lydia Kaersvang, answered yes -- and mentioned Marbury v. Madison, the landmark case that firmly established the principle of judicial review more than 200 years ago, according to the lawyer in the courtroom.


Smith then became "very stern," the source said, suggesting it wasn't clear whether the president believes such a right exists. The other two judges on the panel, Emilio Garza and Leslie Southwick--both Republican appointees--remained silent, the source said...



Seems some justices are not so happy with attempt to intimidate...

Gaffer
04-04-2012, 09:07 AM
He's going up against the supremes and the other federal judges. He's showed his contempt for them repeatedly. The checks and balances will take him down given time.

I just don't expect him to sit quietly and let the courts do their job. It's almost time to release van jones and the maniacs.

Kathianne
04-05-2012, 12:35 PM
Holder's response:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/117982422/DOJ-Letter-to-5th-Circuit-re-Judicial-Authority

While the pages pretty well reflect Judicial Review, the last line puts 'lie' to the whole thing.