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Little-Acorn
04-07-2012, 11:01 AM
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/erikajohnsen/2012/04/07/obama_admin_tax_cuts_work_in_china_just_not_in_the _us

Obama Admin: Tax Cuts Work in China, Just Not in the U.S.

by Erika Johnsen
Apr 07, 2012 08:53 AM EST

While speaking recently about the communist government in China, Undersecretary of State Robert Hormats -- an Obama appointee -- praised China's decision to spur economic growth by lowering taxes. So, at least somebody in the Obama administration definitely understands and embraces the basic lower-taxes-equals-higher-productivity principle of free-market economics, while President Obama himself chooses to neglect that certain principle. I award the administration zero points for consistency on this one:


“China lowered taxes very recently, which will help increase demand, but it’s also good to boost consumption in China,” said Hormats. “So I think what’s interesting is that—sure, there are issues with China that I’ve mentioned--but I think a lot of the reform procedures that are going on in China are consistent with the kind of things that we think will be good for China and for the global system.”

Meanwhile, in a speech in Vermont on Friday, President Barack Obama argued that it was "basic math" that taxes needed to be increased on wealthy Americans so the government could provide more to the poor.

“But if you’re making more than $1 million a year, you can do a little more,” Obama said. “This is not class envy. This is not class warfare. This is basic math--that’s what this is.

“Look, if somebody like me gets a tax break that they don’t need and that the country can’t afford, then one of two things are going to happen--either it adds to our deficit, or we’re taking something away from somebody else,” said Obama.

“Look, there’s no way of getting around that,” said Obama. “Either folks like me are doing more, or somebody who can’t afford it is getting less. And that’s not right.”

Wow. Those are among the most distasteful comments I've ever known President Obama to utter -- and that's saying something. He keeps trying to disclaim his basic point -- "this is not class warfare" -- but that's exactly what this is. The lecturer-in-chief is trying to make the case that if you sit above a certain arbitrary income level (apparently, $1 million a year is the magic number), you are actually depriving somebody else of that income. As if there is a finite supply of prosperity to be had, and there's only a certain amount available to go around. As if people don't create wealth, but rather just hoard money.

Honestly, what does he think "the rich" do with their income above a million dollars? Eat it? As if privately held money isn't put to a productive, well-allocated use that contributes to economic growth, which helps everybody. I don't think President Obama really understands the basic term "opportunity cost" -- and it's either straight-up economic malpractice, or something worse.

Republicans and Democrats -- in fact, particularly Democrats -- all agree that a government can (read: can, not should) use taxes to discourage certain behaviors. Why does President Obama want to discourage people from being rich? From working hard, being highly productive, diversifying the economy, and providing a product or service that a lot of people want to buy? Anyone who calls President Obama a practical socialist is often deemed a crazy right-wing extremist, but, sorry folks -- this Robin-Hood mentality is pretty darn socialist, and it's an embarrassment to our country.

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The author mis-calls the "Robin Hood mentality". By the Robin Hood legends, he took money from Government tax collector and treasury agents; and gave it back to the people who had actually earned it - farmers, cobblers, housewives etc. Robin Hood was a conservative! This is not at all what the Obamanites are doing, obviously.

Note, too, that Obama describes tax CUTS for China - long-term laws the people can count on year after year, and plan on. But for the U.S., he describes only tax BREAKS - one-time cuts that will be gone next year, and are worthless for planning purposes and cannot "stimulate" any long-term economic plans... such as hiring new employees, making capital purchases (new machinery, buildings etc.). -LA

Gator Monroe
04-07-2012, 12:23 PM
Comrade Robin Hood

Anton Chigurh
04-07-2012, 12:34 PM
Comrade Robin HoodAnd exactly like in the Robin Hood stories, you never SEE any of the poor get any help! For some reason, there's still plenty of poverty despite Robin's best intentions and efforts!

It's almost like, giving the poor other people's wealth keeps them poor... or something like that.

Wait. Not almost like. Is like. Is.

And the thing is, they know this. Keeping the poor, poor is the actual mission of the far left. "Fighting to help the poor" is merely one of the emotional hooks they use to continue to get votes. But when you take a dispassionate view of it, it's obvious they have never done anything at all for the poor, and we still have more and more poor all the time!

The plan works brilliantly!

Little-Acorn
04-08-2012, 01:37 PM
And exactly like in the Robin Hood stories, you never SEE any of the poor get any help!

Ummm, the problem is that the poor keep getting their money taken away, in this case by the Sheriff, his tax collectors etc.

If the govt would stop doing that, the "poor" would have a chance to do better, and ultimately stop being poor.

But as long as the govt keeps taking away from them, they won't.

Robin Hood returning a little bit of what was taken, doesn't really change much, so they still stay poor.

See the problem? It's not that they're "not getting any help". It's that they are constantly being robbed.

If they were just left alone, they'd be a LOT better off... and they would even be able to start prospering, since they are working pretty hard.

SassyLady
04-09-2012, 02:06 AM
I'm waiting for the day the government tells me I have to give the pot growers next door half of my garden's yield because they have no vegetables in their garden. Yet they have the same amount of property to dedicate to a garden as I do.

It's all about the government thinking they should be making choices for everyone.

Anton Chigurh
04-09-2012, 07:58 AM
Ummm, the problem is that the poor keep getting their money taken away, in this case by the Sheriff, his tax collectors etc.

If the govt would stop doing that, the "poor" would have a chance to do better, and ultimately stop being poor.

But as long as the govt keeps taking away from them, they won't.

Robin Hood returning a little bit of what was taken, doesn't really change much, so they still stay poor.

See the problem? It's not that they're "not getting any help". It's that they are constantly being robbed.

If they were just left alone, they'd be a LOT better off... and they would even be able to start prospering, since they are working pretty hard.This canard has been debunked many times. To start with, there really isn't any REAL poverty in this country, to speak of. Our "poor" here enjoy shelter, i-phones, cable TV, two cars, Read the study here: http://www.eurasiareview.com/air-conditioning-cable-tv-and-an-xbox-what-is-poverty-in-the-us-today-analysis-13082011/

Also well worth the read, global poverty: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2012/02/29/worlds-extreme-poverty-cut-in-half-since-1990/

Politicians keep changing the US definition of "poor" hoping you'll think we have Zimbabwe conditions and will vote to tax more money away from the mean old "rich."