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nevadamedic
05-22-2007, 04:54 PM
LOCKNEY, Texas (AP) -- Samuel Fischer would appear to be just what this withering Texas Panhandle town needs.

A successful cabinet maker with a thriving business in Utah, he hopes to move the operation here, bringing with it as many as 100 jobs and perhaps eventually an influx of residents.

Many here, however, say Fischer is no godsend, and the economic boost he could provide their town of about 2,000 is not worth the cost.

Fischer is a polygamist, a member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a renegade offshoot of the Mormon Church. The sect's leader, Warren Jeffs, is awaiting trial on charges he arranged marriages between men and underage girls.

In Lockney, people like shopkeeper Ginger Mathis worry that Fischer, his two wives and their 24 children will soon be joined by thousands of other sect members now living Utah and Arizona. Fischer has closed on one house in Plainview and has contracts on three others there; he is also checking out property near Lockney.

"He wouldn't be looking at houses if he didn't have some others coming," Mathis said.

Others want to give Fischer the benefit of the doubt.

"I just feel like he's one of God's creatures and if he wants to come to town, that's his business," said Kay Martin, who owns an insurance agency in Lockney and is a member of the town's economic development board. "It doesn't scare me or bother me."

Ranching and farming are the mainstays in the Lockney area, about 75 miles from Amarillo. Farmers produce cotton, wheat, pumpkins and corn. The town's population has dropped by about 200 from the 2000 census because there is no other work for young people not interested in farming or ranching.

Fischer took his case for moving to Lockney to his future neighbors at a town meeting. He requested the meeting in a letter to the local paper after it published a column about him and his association with Jeffs.

About 100 people attended. When pressed, Fischer told them that Jeffs was his spiritual leader but that the FLDS doesn't have a stake in his business.

About 150 of Jeffs' followers are already in Texas, living outside the small town of Eldorado, about 230 miles from Lockney. Among the buildings erected by the sect is an 80-foot-tall, gleaming white temple.

Those who attended the meeting in Lockney say Fischer, 53, promised he would not build a compound. He also said he didn't know who would be living in the houses he will soon own.

Fischer declined to be interviewed.

"We dealt with the people that have the need to know," he said. "And that's all I'm worried and concerned about. Those are the people who we'll be living and working with. People in New York don't need to know."

Jeffs' group -- based in the adjacent towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona -- numbers about 10,000. It is cloaked in secrecy and widely known for marrying off teenage brides and banishing men and boys who disagree with Jeffs. The Mormon Church renounced polygamy in 1890 and has disavowed any connection to the sect.

Fischer's arrival has piqued interest in Lockney, where several residents said they were reading "Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith," by Jon Krakauer, a 2003 nonfiction book that mentions the FLDS.

In his letter to the newspaper, Fischer wrote that he wants residents to get to know him and to seek jobs at his cabinet factory. He said he settled on Lockney after getting stranded by an ice storm in January in Amarillo and seeing an economy that appeared on the "upswing."

Fisher said he is leaving Hildale because Utah authorities took control of the scandal-plagued trust that controls all the property in the two neighboring towns.

"There has been plenty of negative publicity regarding my beliefs which I would hope the honest in heart can see through," Fischer wrote. "I feel that tolerance for others' way of thinking, that may differ from our own, is what constitutes a peaceful society."

Some of those who attended the meeting said Fischer was not very forthcoming.

"He didn't tell us anything," Mathis said. "He evaded some (questions) and even the ones he answered I didn't feel he was being truthful."

Others said Fisher's cabinet-making business will infuse money into the area.

"I'm not very much bothered by this," said Mayor Roger Stapp. "They have every right to be here if they're being good citizens and not breaking the law."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/22/texas.polygamy.ap/index.html

What would you do if they came to your town? Fight it or accept it? If you didn't want them there how would you keep them out? Any other idea's about this?

Doniston
05-22-2007, 08:24 PM
LOCKNEY, Texas (AP) -- Samuel Fischer would appear to be just what this withering Texas Panhandle town needs.

A successful cabinet maker with a thriving business in Utah, he hopes to move the operation here, bringing with it as many as 100 jobs and perhaps eventually an influx of residents.

Many here, however, say Fischer is no godsend, and the economic boost he could provide their town of about 2,000 is not worth the cost.

Fischer is a polygamist, a member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a renegade offshoot of the Mormon Church. The sect's leader, Warren Jeffs, is awaiting trial on charges he arranged marriages between men and underage girls.

In Lockney, people like shopkeeper Ginger Mathis worry that Fischer, his two wives and their 24 children will soon be joined by thousands of other sect members now living Utah and Arizona. Fischer has closed on one house in Plainview and has contracts on three others there; he is also checking out property near Lockney.

"He wouldn't be looking at houses if he didn't have some others coming," Mathis said.

Others want to give Fischer the benefit of the doubt.

"I just feel like he's one of God's creatures and if he wants to come to town, that's his business," said Kay Martin, who owns an insurance agency in Lockney and is a member of the town's economic development board. "It doesn't scare me or bother me."

Ranching and farming are the mainstays in the Lockney area, about 75 miles from Amarillo. Farmers produce cotton, wheat, pumpkins and corn. The town's population has dropped by about 200 from the 2000 census because there is no other work for young people not interested in farming or ranching.

Fischer took his case for moving to Lockney to his future neighbors at a town meeting. He requested the meeting in a letter to the local paper after it published a column about him and his association with Jeffs.

About 100 people attended. When pressed, Fischer told them that Jeffs was his spiritual leader but that the FLDS doesn't have a stake in his business.

About 150 of Jeffs' followers are already in Texas, living outside the small town of Eldorado, about 230 miles from Lockney. Among the buildings erected by the sect is an 80-foot-tall, gleaming white temple.

Those who attended the meeting in Lockney say Fischer, 53, promised he would not build a compound. He also said he didn't know who would be living in the houses he will soon own.

Fischer declined to be interviewed.

"We dealt with the people that have the need to know," he said. "And that's all I'm worried and concerned about. Those are the people who we'll be living and working with. People in New York don't need to know."

Jeffs' group -- based in the adjacent towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona -- numbers about 10,000. It is cloaked in secrecy and widely known for marrying off teenage brides and banishing men and boys who disagree with Jeffs. The Mormon Church renounced polygamy in 1890 and has disavowed any connection to the sect.

Fischer's arrival has piqued interest in Lockney, where several residents said they were reading "Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith," by Jon Krakauer, a 2003 nonfiction book that mentions the FLDS.

In his letter to the newspaper, Fischer wrote that he wants residents to get to know him and to seek jobs at his cabinet factory. He said he settled on Lockney after getting stranded by an ice storm in January in Amarillo and seeing an economy that appeared on the "upswing."

Fisher said he is leaving Hildale because Utah authorities took control of the scandal-plagued trust that controls all the property in the two neighboring towns.

"There has been plenty of negative publicity regarding my beliefs which I would hope the honest in heart can see through," Fischer wrote. "I feel that tolerance for others' way of thinking, that may differ from our own, is what constitutes a peaceful society."

Some of those who attended the meeting said Fischer was not very forthcoming.

"He didn't tell us anything," Mathis said. "He evaded some (questions) and even the ones he answered I didn't feel he was being truthful."

Others said Fisher's cabinet-making business will infuse money into the area.

"I'm not very much bothered by this," said Mayor Roger Stapp. "They have every right to be here if they're being good citizens and not breaking the law."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/22/texas.polygamy.ap/index.html

What would you do if they came to your town? Fight it or accept it? If you didn't want them there how would you keep them out? Any other idea's about this?If their only crime is marrying to many people, I would do absolute ly nothing except welcome them.

nevadamedic
05-22-2007, 09:59 PM
If their only crime is marrying to many people, I would do absolute ly nothing except welcome them.

That is a crime, a Felony to be exact.

avatar4321
05-22-2007, 10:57 PM
Warren Jeffs is a control freak. I heard his group was heading down to Texas a while ago. I dont expect it to last very long once he is convicted. especially since he has already denied his "prophetic" role in the community. Even if he was released the community couldnt continue as it was because of his confession.

If i were the neighbors id just be concerned about helping some of those families out. cause they are going to be let down big time in the near future.

nevadamedic
05-22-2007, 11:12 PM
Warren Jeffs is a control freak. I heard his group was heading down to Texas a while ago. I dont expect it to last very long once he is convicted. especially since he has already denied his "prophetic" role in the community. Even if he was released the community couldnt continue as it was because of his confession.

If i were the neighbors id just be concerned about helping some of those families out. cause they are going to be let down big time in the near future.

Did you watch the story on Jeff's on America's Most Wanted? The guy was a sicko, pre arranging marriages for under age girls. But I also think anyone practicing this lifestyle is a sicko, I mean if you think about it, it is not really different then a swingers lifestyle.

nevadamedic
05-22-2007, 11:13 PM
Also the Mormon Church is strongly against having multiple wives, they excommunicate you for it.

Trigg
05-23-2007, 12:41 PM
LOCKNEY, Texas (AP) -- Samuel Fischer would appear to be just what this withering Texas Panhandle town needs.

A successful cabinet maker with a thriving business in Utah, he hopes to move the operation here, bringing with it as many as 100 jobs and perhaps eventually an influx of residents.

Many here, however, say Fischer is no godsend, and the economic boost he could provide their town of about 2,000 is not worth the cost.

Fischer is a polygamist, a member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a renegade offshoot of the Mormon Church. The sect's leader, Warren Jeffs, is awaiting trial on charges he arranged marriages between men and underage girls.

In Lockney, people like shopkeeper Ginger Mathis worry that Fischer, his two wives and their 24 children will soon be joined by thousands of other sect members now living Utah and Arizona. Fischer has closed on one house in Plainview and has contracts on three others there; he is also checking out property near Lockney.

"He wouldn't be looking at houses if he didn't have some others coming," Mathis said.

Others want to give Fischer the benefit of the doubt.

"I just feel like he's one of God's creatures and if he wants to come to town, that's his business," said Kay Martin, who owns an insurance agency in Lockney and is a member of the town's economic development board. "It doesn't scare me or bother me."

Ranching and farming are the mainstays in the Lockney area, about 75 miles from Amarillo. Farmers produce cotton, wheat, pumpkins and corn. The town's population has dropped by about 200 from the 2000 census because there is no other work for young people not interested in farming or ranching.

Fischer took his case for moving to Lockney to his future neighbors at a town meeting. He requested the meeting in a letter to the local paper after it published a column about him and his association with Jeffs.

About 100 people attended. When pressed, Fischer told them that Jeffs was his spiritual leader but that the FLDS doesn't have a stake in his business.

About 150 of Jeffs' followers are already in Texas, living outside the small town of Eldorado, about 230 miles from Lockney. Among the buildings erected by the sect is an 80-foot-tall, gleaming white temple.

Those who attended the meeting in Lockney say Fischer, 53, promised he would not build a compound. He also said he didn't know who would be living in the houses he will soon own.

Fischer declined to be interviewed.

"We dealt with the people that have the need to know," he said. "And that's all I'm worried and concerned about. Those are the people who we'll be living and working with. People in New York don't need to know."

Jeffs' group -- based in the adjacent towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona -- numbers about 10,000. It is cloaked in secrecy and widely known for marrying off teenage brides and banishing men and boys who disagree with Jeffs. The Mormon Church renounced polygamy in 1890 and has disavowed any connection to the sect.

Fischer's arrival has piqued interest in Lockney, where several residents said they were reading "Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith," by Jon Krakauer, a 2003 nonfiction book that mentions the FLDS.

In his letter to the newspaper, Fischer wrote that he wants residents to get to know him and to seek jobs at his cabinet factory. He said he settled on Lockney after getting stranded by an ice storm in January in Amarillo and seeing an economy that appeared on the "upswing."

Fisher said he is leaving Hildale because Utah authorities took control of the scandal-plagued trust that controls all the property in the two neighboring towns.

"There has been plenty of negative publicity regarding my beliefs which I would hope the honest in heart can see through," Fischer wrote. "I feel that tolerance for others' way of thinking, that may differ from our own, is what constitutes a peaceful society."

Some of those who attended the meeting said Fischer was not very forthcoming.

"He didn't tell us anything," Mathis said. "He evaded some (questions) and even the ones he answered I didn't feel he was being truthful."

Others said Fisher's cabinet-making business will infuse money into the area.

"I'm not very much bothered by this," said Mayor Roger Stapp. "They have every right to be here if they're being good citizens and not breaking the law."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/22/texas.polygamy.ap/index.html

What would you do if they came to your town? Fight it or accept it? If you didn't want them there how would you keep them out? Any other idea's about this?

Everything I've heard about Jeffs shows him to be a child abuser.

As far as other polygamists, ones with 2 wives. I really don't see why the town would have a problem with them moving in.

If they're good people and can support themselves, what's the problem? Also what's the difference between what they do and men/women who have someone on the side???