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red states rule
07-04-2012, 07:19 AM
A great ad that has been put out by the RNC


http://youtu.be/VbJ9ICG3Z_I

arold10
07-06-2012, 08:49 AM
The Republican should not now pretend that they are concerned about the impact the debt may have on the future generation. While they were the one who doubled it during the eight years when George was president.

jimnyc
07-06-2012, 08:53 AM
The Republican should not now pretend that they are concerned about the impact the debt may have on the future generation. While they were the one who doubled it during the eight years when George was president.

I agree Republicans shouldn't brag, at least until they do something about it, which I won't hold my breath for. But at least GWB did so in 8 years, while juggling multiple wars. Obama spent that much in his first few years, and projections look even worse.

red states rule
07-06-2012, 03:51 PM
The Republican should not now pretend that they are concerned about the impact the debt may have on the future generation. While they were the one who doubled it during the eight years when George was president.

Please condier these facts

1) Democrats took over the House and Senate in Jan 2007 and that is when the spending took off under Bush

2) Also there was a guy in the US Senate named Obama who voted for (or perhaps voted "present" for all the Dem approved spending bills that went thru Congress and signed by Pres Bush. So how can he (or anyone else) whine about what he "inherited"?

3) Sen Obama was opposed to raising the debt limit under Pres Bush - yet was all for raising it when he ran out of money to spend

4) Obama has run up more debt in 3 1/2 years then Pres Bush did in 8 years - AND all the other Presidents COMBINED

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-06-2012, 04:50 PM
The Republican should not now pretend that they are concerned about the impact the debt may have on the future generation. While they were the one who doubled it during the eight years when George was president.

One thread you reply you were for Romney and the Republican party , here you are apparently against the Republican party. You remind me of another poster that was here recently. Your views so please shoot 'em out how you see fit. Myself, I'm wary of people that jump back and forth over the fence. Just sayin'...-Tyr

red states rule
07-06-2012, 04:53 PM
One thread you reply you were for Romney and the Republican party , here you are apparently against the Republican party. You remind me of another poster that was here recently. Your views so please shoot 'em out how you see fit. Myself, I'm wary of people that jump back and forth over the fence. Just sayin'...-Tyr

It is amazing how some people tend to "forget" Dems took over the House and Senate in Jan 2007 and how Obama had total and complete control of Capital Hill for his first 2 years

Instead everything Obama has screwed up is Bush's fault. or the Republican's fault. Or the weather's fault. The fault of ATM's. The fault of the Arab Spring

Anyone's fault except Obama's

aboutime
07-06-2012, 07:40 PM
One thread you reply you were for Romney and the Republican party , here you are apparently against the Republican party. You remind me of another poster that was here recently. Your views so please shoot 'em out how you see fit. Myself, I'm wary of people that jump back and forth over the fence. Just sayin'...-Tyr



Tyr. I think that action you are speaking about above, is called appeasement, or just saying, or doing what you think is most appropriate for the Moment.

Someday. I hope soon. People from all walks of life will learn that life isn't one, continuous popularity contest where it's always easy to make new friends as long as you always agree with what they say...and never use your own mind for thinking, and forming personal opinions.
That seems to be a widespread problem in all of American life today. As long as people know...they aren't up to date, or wise, or smart enough about certain topics. They feel locked in, and unable to offer their honest feelings...because they fear, someone might not like what they say, or think.
Which brings me to my One Principle in life I have learned to enjoy, and use. No matter what others may think, or say about me.

WHICH IS: "I only care what others think, or say. And I only will do, and believe everything they say, or demand. AS LONG AS...they PAY MY BILLS, and REMOVE all debt I may have until I die. Those are the kinds of people I PAY ATTENTION TO THE MOST.
Sadly. I haven't met ONE of them yet.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-06-2012, 08:53 PM
Tyr. I think that action you are speaking about above, is called appeasement, or just saying, or doing what you think is most appropriate for the Moment.

Someday. I hope soon. People from all walks of life will learn that life isn't one, continuous popularity contest where it's always easy to make new friends as long as you always agree with what they say...and never use your own mind for thinking, and forming personal opinions.
That seems to be a widespread problem in all of American life today. As long as people know...they aren't up to date, or wise, or smart enough about certain topics. They feel locked in, and unable to offer their honest feelings...because they fear, someone might not like what they say, or think.
Which brings me to my One Principle in life I have learned to enjoy, and use. No matter what others may think, or say about me.

WHICH IS: "I only care what others think, or say. And I only will do, and believe everything they say, or demand. AS LONG AS...they PAY MY BILLS, and REMOVE all debt I may have until I die. Those are the kinds of people I PAY ATTENTION TO THE MOST.
Sadly. I haven't met ONE of them yet.


What? You didnt get your obama cash? Man , he has plenty in his stash. Just send him a letter and say you will vote for him until the oceans dry up! He'll pay your bills with other people's hard earned money! Got to get on some of those Dem give away social programs to qualify! ahhh, the sweet life of sleeping to noon , eating free food, shooting hoops, knocking up easy gals and drinking 40's til 3am. Crash and repeat everyday of the week! -:laugh2:

aboutime
07-06-2012, 09:49 PM
What? You didnt get your obama cash? Man , he has plenty in his stash. Just send him a letter and say you will vote for him until the oceans dry up! He'll pay your bills with other people's hard earned money! Got to get on some of those Dem give away social programs to qualify! ahhh, the sweet life of sleeping to noon , eating free food, shooting hoops, knocking up easy gals and drinking 40's til 3am. Crash and repeat everyday of the week! -:laugh2:

Doggone man. I tried that many times, and every time. They told me I didn't qualify unless I promised to vote for Obama, and gave my soul to the DNC, with my house, my wife, and my old Monopoly game money.

All was well until I told them I had been in the military. That's when they declared me a Terrorist who had bad intentions against the Obama gang. Until the Black dudes with the night sticks showed up at my front door. Telling me to PAY UP, or Leave town.

gabosaurus
07-06-2012, 11:03 PM
I agree Republicans shouldn't brag, at least until they do something about it, which I won't hold my breath for. But at least GWB did so in 8 years, while juggling multiple wars.

All of which he started. And used as an excuse to neglect domestic problems. Which proceeded to spiral out of hand. If you are increasing spending while cutting the tax base, it produces a ton of unpaid debt and decaying infrastructure.
So when the next president tries to rectify this, he gets hit with charges of increased spending. And when you attempt to disengage the country from illegal and immoral foreign conflicts, that leads to decreased employment in certain sectors.
If someone plants a large number of bombs that end up exploding after he has left, who gets the blame? It's usually not the person who left them there.

red states rule
07-07-2012, 05:19 AM
All of which he started. And used as an excuse to neglect domestic problems. Which proceeded to spiral out of hand. If you are increasing spending while cutting the tax base, it produces a ton of unpaid debt and decaying infrastructure.
So when the next president tries to rectify this, he gets hit with charges of increased spending. And when you attempt to disengage the country from illegal and immoral foreign conflicts, that leads to decreased employment in certain sectors.
If someone plants a large number of bombs that end up exploding after he has left, who gets the blame? It's usually not the person who left them there.

and Dems voted for them Gabby

I rememebr well how you bellowed how Bush lied - well using your logic - so did Dems

Here all a few examples of what Dems had to say (not that you care Gabby)





"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

http://www.rightwingnews.com/quotes/demsonwmds.php