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red states rule
07-13-2012, 02:43 AM
So let me get this straight. The President who has had more interviews, more magazine covers, a slobbering love affair with the liberal media, total and unwavering support from most "journalists" covering his administration is whining about NOT getting his message out?

And he makes that comment during a softball interview on CBS





President Obama's biggest mistake during his first term, he told CBS News in an exclusive interview, has been putting policy over storytelling. Mr. Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama sat down Thursday with "CBS This Morning" anchor Charlie Rose in the White House Blue Room, where they discussed the failures and successes of his administration as he heads into another election, among other things.

"When I think about what we've done well and what we haven't done well," the president said, "the mistake of my first term - couple of years - was thinking that this job was just about getting the policy right. And that's important. But the nature of this office is also to tell a story to the American people that gives them a sense of unity and purpose and optimism, especially during tough times."
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Mr. Obama acknowledged the dissonance between others' perception of his strength as an expert orator, and his own.
"It's funny - when I ran, everybody said, well he can give a good speech but can he actually manage the job?" he said. "And in my first two years, I think the notion was, 'Well, he's been juggling and managing a lot of stuff, but where's the story that tells us where he's going?' And I think that was a legitimate criticism."
Pressed by Rose about what he felt he needed to explain better to the American people, the president corrected that he wanted to do more "explaining, but also inspiring."
"Because hope is still there," Mrs. Obama added.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57471351-503544/obama-reflects-on-his-biggest-mistake-as-president/

CSM
07-13-2012, 06:36 AM
So let me get this straight. The President who has had more interviews, more magazine covers, a slobbering love affair with the liberal media, total and unwavering support from most "journalists" covering his administration is whining about NOT getting his message out?

And he makes that comment during a softball interview on CBS

His problem isn't poor messaging. He isn't a poor messenger either. His problem is that many in this country don't like the message.

Anton Chigurh
07-13-2012, 09:54 AM
That's one of the standard excuses in advance for losing. This one, translated, goes, "It's not the policies, it's not the over intrusive reach, it's not the economy or the jobs picture - it's the stupid people not understanding our message."

Thunderknuckles
07-13-2012, 10:01 AM
The silver lining in this may be if he is elected to a second term, he will do more talking and less acting :p

Abbey Marie
07-13-2012, 10:09 AM
...But the nature of this office is also to tell a story to the American people that gives them a sense of unity and purpose and optimism, especially during tough times."
...


He's right. We all like a good fictional story now and then.

mundame
07-13-2012, 10:57 AM
His problem isn't poor messaging. He isn't a poor messenger either. His problem is that many in this country don't like the message.

Amen.

Reminds me a lot of a black woman who was above me at work, she thought, and while she was having a nervous breakdown started yelling, "You don't listen to me! You don't listen to me!!"

I said, "I listen to you, I just don't agree with you."

After that she took weeks of time off............................

Anton Chigurh
07-13-2012, 11:58 AM
His problem isn't poor messaging. He isn't a poor messenger either. His problem is that many in this country don't like the message.Not even Billy Mays could sell a shit sammich. Even with whipped cream on top. It's kinda like the old "lipstick on a pig" think.

red states rule
07-13-2012, 04:22 PM
That's one of the standard excuses in advance for losing. This one, translated, goes, "It's not the policies, it's not the over intrusive reach, it's not the economy or the jobs picture - it's the stupid people not understanding our message."

I believe it was Harry Reid, on the Senate floor, blamed Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, for their loss in 2004. He whined their message was drowned out the right wing

red states rule
07-13-2012, 04:23 PM
Not even Billy Mays could sell a shit sammich. Even with whipped cream on top. It's kinda like the old "lipstick on a pig" think.

Here is Billy selling "Stimulus II"


http://youtu.be/m-fo2s1wedU

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-13-2012, 04:46 PM
His problem is THAT he has a record now and he is a lying SOB !
ALSO HE HAS BEEN VETTED SINCE BEING ELECTED IN 2008.
IN ADDITION THE MASSIVE MISERY HE HAS CAUSED WOKE MILLIONS UP AND THEY STARTED TO LOOK FOR ANSWERS. THOSE ANSWERS REVEALED THAT HE WAS A GD LYING FRAUD!-Tyr

Drummond
07-13-2012, 05:13 PM
I think the point is that Obama worries that he hasn't sufficiently refined his propaganda offensive (emphasis on the word 'offensive') so as to make sure it properly obscures his appalling record by the time he really needs his votes.

From the words ...


But the nature of this office is also to tell a story to the American people that gives them a sense of unity and purpose and optimism, especially during tough times."

... we get a clear message. Filter my messages through the frame of mind I insist you must have.

Obama got elected last time around, so far as I can tell, by selling the mantra of 'change'. But, did he ever spell out in detail exactly what he meant ?

Now, he wants to play mind games again, to hypnotise the American public all over again, only this time, he's got his record in Office to overcome .. so, he'll concentrate not on content and objectivity, but instead, MOOD.

It was said that Hitler whipped his target audiences up into a frenzy of leadership adoration as part of his public speaking methodology. Obama's trying for a variation of the same thing.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-13-2012, 05:41 PM
I think the point is that Obama worries that he hasn't sufficiently refined his propaganda offensive (emphasis on the word 'offensive') so as to make sure it properly obscures his appalling record by the time he really needs his votes.

From the words ...



... we get a clear message. Filter my messages through the frame of mind I insist you must have.

Obama got elected last time around, so far as I can tell, by selling the mantra of 'change'. But, did he ever spell out in detail exactly what he meant ?

Now, he wants to play mind games again, to hypnotise the American public all over again, only this time, he's got his record in Office to overcome .. so, he'll concentrate not on content and objectivity, but instead, MOOD.

It was said that Hitler whipped his target audiences up into a frenzy of leadership adoration as part of his public speaking methodology. Obama's trying for a variation of the same thing.

Guy goes to a different state different town and meets a beautiful and very sexy gal near the beautiful city park. They hit it off and have a sex filled weekend at the local cabin retreat where he had booked a stay. The guy is amazed at the great thing he has found and wonders why the hell she was not already taken. Stops next morning on the way back into town with her in his car to get gas. Pumps the gas and floats in on cloud nine to pay for the gas with his credit card in hand and a beaming big satisfied smile on his face! As he is paying at the counter the clerk looks out at his car and asks , "Say, isnt that Nelly's girl"? Guy replies, dont know any Nelly but that is Lucy Bell aint she wonderful"? Clerk hesitates and then replies, "'YES, Lucy Bell, she works at Nelly's joint" Guy wonders what's this? So he asks, "What is this Nelly's joint "? The clerk says, "Hell, everybody here knows the answer to that, its the local brothel. And she is Nelly's top money maker!"
Guy is crushed and declares, " but she didnt charge me a dime"! The clerk asks, "Have you checked your wallet this morning"? Guy checks and sure enough he is missing 9 crisp new hundred dollar bills from his wallet!
Clerk says, "Yep thats our Lucy, she always gets hers and the customer usually finds out after its too damn late"!
Obama is Lucy Bell and the citizens have stopped for gas AND TALKED TO THE FRIENDLY INFORMATIVE CLERK TOO!
that old dog dont hunt anymore'..... that's his freaking problem and he knows it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-----------Tyr

Anton Chigurh
07-13-2012, 05:58 PM
Here is Billy selling "Stimulus II"


http://youtu.be/m-fo2s1wedUHa! Yeah I remember that.... Billy tryna sell a shit sammich, as a joke.

red states rule
07-14-2012, 05:48 AM
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gmc10099320120713120100.jpg

Drummond
07-14-2012, 07:26 PM
Guy goes to a different state different town and meets a beautiful and very sexy gal near the beautiful city park. They hit it off and have a sex filled weekend at the local cabin retreat where he had booked a stay. The guy is amazed at the great thing he has found and wonders why the hell she was not already taken. Stops next morning on the way back into town with her in his car to get gas. Pumps the gas and floats in on cloud nine to pay for the gas with his credit card in hand and a beaming big satisfied smile on his face! As he is paying at the counter the clerk looks out at his car and asks , "Say, isnt that Nelly's girl"? Guy replies, dont know any Nelly but that is Lucy Bell aint she wonderful"? Clerk hesitates and then replies, "'YES, Lucy Bell, she works at Nelly's joint" Guy wonders what's this? So he asks, "What is this Nelly's joint "? The clerk says, "Hell, everybody here knows the answer to that, its the local brothel. And she is Nelly's top money maker!"
Guy is crushed and declares, " but she didnt charge me a dime"! The clerk asks, "Have you checked your wallet this morning"? Guy checks and sure enough he is missing 9 crisp new hundred dollar bills from his wallet!
Clerk says, "Yep thats our Lucy, she always gets hers and the customer usually finds out after its too damn late"!
Obama is Lucy Bell and the citizens have stopped for gas AND TALKED TO THE FRIENDLY INFORMATIVE CLERK TOO!
that old dog dont hunt anymore'..... that's his freaking problem and he knows it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-----------Tyr

Ah, but Tyr, though I like the parallel, I don't think it quite works. With 'Lucy Bell' .. at least the one taken 'for a ride' would get to enjoy it .. for a while, anyway.

Is that true for Obama ? Does America enjoy his mismanagement of the economy, or his penchant for grabbing power for himself whilst dictating to others ?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-14-2012, 08:29 PM
Ah, but Tyr, though I like the parallel, I don't think it quite works. With 'Lucy Bell' .. at least the one taken 'for a ride' would get to enjoy it .. for a while, anyway.

Is that true for Obama ? Does America enjoy his mismanagement of the economy, or his penchant for grabbing power for himself whilst dictating to others ?

What did the guy see in Lucy Bell before the clerk filled him in on the awful truth?
Well , obama has had the same affect on millions. To further illustrate that point just consider even with all that has now came out about his true nature, true history, his lies and evil intentions he will still get tens of millions of votes! Do you think all those that will vote that way will be absolutely unaware of the many revelations coming out about the fraud?
No sir, even those that hear the clerk will choose to ignore it in favor of the fantasy! Remember , the socialists here see no wrong in his agenda, the leeches(tit suckers) dont give a damn about any wrongs and the smug elitists think he is a demi-god punishing we sweaty , common working people that are ignorant enough to be conservatives!
I'd say the orgasms he has given and the ones he still gives have him right on par with Lucy Bell.
How'd you like my story about Lucy Bell? Made it up on a whim here... decided not to name the whorehouse madame because decent people cringe when they read Pelosi Ann's name.;)--Tyr

Anton Chigurh
07-14-2012, 10:42 PM
his... evil intentionsDon't make that mistake. Obama and his ilk do not have evil intentions. They actually believe that the Marxist model is the good, and the capitalist one is the evil.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. A anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."

Forgive them, for they know not what they do.

Abbey Marie
07-16-2012, 02:54 PM
I agree, Anton. I think Obama is a true believer.

red state
07-16-2012, 03:26 PM
Hitler was also a "true believer" but he was also extremely unequivocally EVIL!

Now, to my next address to the conversation earlier between TYR & DRUM:
I believe both are correct (depending on the side of glass you are looking on. Tyr is correct when considering the ignorance and level of evil from some but to view America as a whole and how WE THE PEOPLE LOOK AT IT, B.O. is both the whore and the pimp in that he got our money and has sold us, defiled us and we got NOTHING in return...only B.O. and our enemies profited.


Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
Guy goes to a different state different town and meets a beautiful and very sexy gal near the beautiful city park. They hit it off and have a sex filled weekend at the local cabin retreat where he had booked a stay. The guy is amazed at the great thing he has found and wonders why the hell she was not already taken. Stops next morning on the way back into town with her in his car to get gas. Pumps the gas and floats in on cloud nine to pay for the gas with his credit card in hand and a beaming big satisfied smile on his face! As he is paying at the counter the clerk looks out at his car and asks , "Say, isnt that Nelly's girl"? Guy replies, dont know any Nelly but that is Lucy Bell aint she wonderful"? Clerk hesitates and then replies, "'YES, Lucy Bell, she works at Nelly's joint" Guy wonders what's this? So he asks, "What is this Nelly's joint "? The clerk says, "Hell, everybody here knows the answer to that, its the local brothel. And she is Nelly's top money maker!"
Guy is crushed and declares, " but she didnt charge me a dime"! The clerk asks, "Have you checked your wallet this morning"? Guy checks and sure enough he is missing 9 crisp new hundred dollar bills from his wallet!
Clerk says, "Yep thats our Lucy, she always gets hers and the customer usually finds out after its too damn late"!
Obama is Lucy Bell and the citizens have stopped for gas AND TALKED TO THE FRIENDLY INFORMATIVE CLERK TOO!
that old dog dont hunt anymore'..... that's his freaking problem and he knows it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-----------Tyr
Ah, but Tyr, though I like the parallel, I don't think it quite works. With 'Lucy Bell' .. at least the one taken 'for a ride' would get to enjoy it .. for a while, anyway.

Is that true for Obama ? Does America enjoy his mismanagement of the economy, or his penchant for grabbing power for himself whilst dictating to others ?

Anton Chigurh
07-16-2012, 05:13 PM
Hitler was also a "true believer" but he was also extremely unequivocally EVIL!By some standards.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-16-2012, 06:29 PM
Hitler was also a "true believer" but he was also extremely unequivocally EVIL!

Now, to my next address to the conversation earlier between TYR & DRUM:
I believe both are correct (depending on the side of glass you are looking on. Tyr is correct when considering the ignorance and level of evil from some but to view America as a whole and how WE THE PEOPLE LOOK AT IT, B.O. is both the whore and the pimp in that he got our money and has sold us, defiled us and we got NOTHING in return...only B.O. and our enemies profited.


Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
Guy goes to a different state different town and meets a beautiful and very sexy gal near the beautiful city park. They hit it off and have a sex filled weekend at the local cabin retreat where he had booked a stay. The guy is amazed at the great thing he has found and wonders why the hell she was not already taken. Stops next morning on the way back into town with her in his car to get gas. Pumps the gas and floats in on cloud nine to pay for the gas with his credit card in hand and a beaming big satisfied smile on his face! As he is paying at the counter the clerk looks out at his car and asks , "Say, isnt that Nelly's girl"? Guy replies, dont know any Nelly but that is Lucy Bell aint she wonderful"? Clerk hesitates and then replies, "'YES, Lucy Bell, she works at Nelly's joint" Guy wonders what's this? So he asks, "What is this Nelly's joint "? The clerk says, "Hell, everybody here knows the answer to that, its the local brothel. And she is Nelly's top money maker!"
Guy is crushed and declares, " but she didnt charge me a dime"! The clerk asks, "Have you checked your wallet this morning"? Guy checks and sure enough he is missing 9 crisp new hundred dollar bills from his wallet!
Clerk says, "Yep thats our Lucy, she always gets hers and the customer usually finds out after its too damn late"!
Obama is Lucy Bell and the citizens have stopped for gas AND TALKED TO THE FRIENDLY INFORMATIVE CLERK TOO!
that old dog dont hunt anymore'..... that's his freaking problem and he knows it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-----------Tyr
Ah, but Tyr, though I like the parallel, I don't think it quite works. With 'Lucy Bell' .. at least the one taken 'for a ride' would get to enjoy it .. for a while, anyway.

Is that true for Obama ? Does America enjoy his mismanagement of the economy, or his penchant for grabbing power for himself whilst dictating to others ?

Only a true "messiah" can be the whore, the pimp and the authorities too! Atriple and all for the same small price to pay= our freedom and independence.
Who ever said obama isnt a damn fine snake oil salesman?;) For he is that and a evil SOB TOO!--Tyr

Gaffer
07-16-2012, 07:32 PM
Only a true "messiah" can be the whore, the pimp and the authorities too! Atriple and all for the same small price to pay= our freedom and independence.
Who ever said obama isnt a damn fine snake oil salesman?;) For he is that and a evil SOB TOO!--Tyr

I don't call him the dark lord for his skin color.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-16-2012, 07:49 PM
I don't call him the dark lord for his skin color.

Exactly my friend. The dark lord sits his throne and seeks his pleasure. Too bad that his pleasure is our misery and demise as a capitalist and freedom loving nation! The road to hell is paved with good intentions that are based upon lies.
Obama lies as effortlessly as he breathes. Such a person is truly insane IMHO.-Tyr

Anton Chigurh
07-17-2012, 09:17 AM
Obama: You know what my problem is? Poor messagingYeah, Bozo.... You really improved on that recently with your "you didn't build that" crap...

aboutime
07-17-2012, 03:35 PM
Seeing this thread only served to remind me how...as a 30 year Navy Veteran, and natural citizen of this nation.
The man who calls himself MY president has considered me to be an Inbred Terrorist against the United States. Not to mention. How that same person who calls himself MY president also considers me a RACIST. Not because I disagree with almost everything his policies are doing to this nation, but...because the man who calls himself MY President really thinks, and declared that I am a RACIST.

Guess that means. As a Terrorist Racist. I am doing something right. Otherwise. I would have voted for him, and he would have a free ticket to destroy the nation WE ALL LOVE.

Little-Acorn
07-17-2012, 03:53 PM
His problem isn't poor messaging. He isn't a poor messenger either. His problem is that many in this country don't like the message.

Keep in mind that Democrats like Obama, have a different definition of "getting the message out" from normal people.

Most people mean "making sure others know the truth".

Democrats mean "making sure people believe our falsehoods".

When people don't believe them, Democrats say they "aren't getting the message out". Most other people would have said, "They caught us."

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-17-2012, 06:54 PM
Keep in mind that Democrats like Obama, have a different definition of "getting the message out" from normal people.

Most people mean "making sure others know the truth".

Democrats mean "making sure people believe our falsehoods".

When people don't believe them, Democrats say they "aren't getting the message out". Most other people would have said, "They caught us."

The Dems have joined the muslims in lying like dogs(like two peas in a pod)! They elected their King Liar and placed him upon a throne and a "messiah" pedestal too. Now the TRUTH is starting to come out about the freaking scum and they have put their lie machine into overdrive! For they have exactly ZERO HONOR!-Tyr

Little-Acorn
07-19-2012, 11:40 AM
The Dems have joined the muslims in lying like dogs(like two peas in a pod)! They elected their King Liar and placed him upon a throne and a "messiah" pedestal too. Now the TRUTH is starting to come out about the freaking scum and they have put their lie machine into overdrive! For they have exactly ZERO HONOR!-Tyr

You write as though there is something new about this in the Democrat playbook. But in fact it's nothing new.

They're just getting caught more often, as more and more people realize what they are doing.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-19-2012, 06:11 PM
You write as though there is something new about this in the Democrat playbook. But in fact it's nothing new.

They're just getting caught more often, as more and more people realize what they are doing.

Actually I am well aware that its not a new tactic. That they have been lying like hell for well over 50 years and even before that but to a lesser degree. Before the 60's the Dem party was not an entirely sold out entity. By the mid 70's it was sold out and by the early 80's the job was complete.. Leftists/socialists run the show while declaring (renaming) themselves "progressives".-Tyr