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-Cp
05-23-2007, 08:39 PM
Poll: 1 in 4 younger U.S. Muslims support suicide bombings
AP

(New York - AP, May 23, 2007) - One in four younger U.S. Muslims said in a poll that suicide bombings to defend their religion are acceptable at least in some circumstances, though most Muslim Americans overwhelmingly reject the tactic and are critical of Islamic extremism and al-Qaida.
The survey by the Pew Research Center, one of the most exhaustive ever of the country's Muslims, revealed a community that in many ways blends comfortably into society. Its largely mainstream members express nearly as much happiness with their lives and communities as the general public does, show a broad willingness to adopt American customs, and have income and education levels similar to others in the U.S.

Even so, the survey revealed noteworthy pockets of discontent.

While nearly 80 percent of U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings of civilians to defend Islam can not be justified, 13 percent say they can be, at least rarely.

That sentiment is strongest among those younger than 30. Two percent of them say it can often be justified, 13 percent say sometimes and 11 percent say rarely.

"It is a hair-raising number," said Radwan Masmoudi, president of the Washington-based Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, which promotes the compatibility of Islam with democracy.

He said most supporters of the attacks likely assumed the context was a fight against occupation - a term Muslims often use to describe the conflict with Israel.

U.S. Muslims have growing Internet and television access to extreme ideologies, he said, adding: "People, especially younger people, are susceptible to these ideas."

Federal officials have warned the U.S. must guard against homegrown terrorism, as the British suffered with the London transit bombings of 2005.

Even so, U.S. Muslims are far less accepting of suicide attacks than Muslims in many other nations. In Pew surveys last year, support in some Muslim countries exceeded 50 percent, while it was considered justifiable by about one in four Muslims in Britain and Spain, and one in three in France.

"We have crazies just like other faiths have them," said Eide Alawan, who directs interfaith outreach at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Mich., one of the nation's largest mosques. He said killing innocent people contradicts Islam.

Andrew Kohut, Pew director, said in an interview that support for the attacks represented "one of the few trouble spots" in the survey.

The poll briefly describes the rationales for and against "suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilian targets" and then asks, "Do you personally feel that this kind of violence is often justified to defend Islam, sometimes justified, rarely justified, or never justified?"

The question did not specify where a suicide attack might occur, who might carry it out or what was meant by using a bombing to "defend Islam."

Those of all ages backing at least some suicide attacks were about evenly divided between men and women, with support stronger from those who were U.S.-born and less educated, and those who attend mosques at least weekly.

In other findings:
# Only 5 percent of U.S. Muslims expressed favorable views of the terrorist group al-Qaida, though about a fourth did not express an opinion.

# Most said they are concerned about a rise in Islamic extremism in the U.S. and around the world.

# Only 40 percent said they believe Arab men carried out the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

# By six to one, they say the U.S. was wrong to invade Iraq, while a third say the same about Afghanistan - far deeper than the opposition expressed by the general U.S. public.

# Just over half said it has been harder being a U.S. Muslim since the 9/11 attacks. Nearly a third of those who flew in the past year say they underwent extra screening because they are Muslim.

# Forty-seven percent said they consider themselves Muslim first, rather than American. Forty-two percent of Christians and 62 percent of white evangelical Protestants identified themselves primarily by their religion in earlier surveys.

# By six-to-one, they favor the Democratic Party over the Republican Party, and by five-to-one say they voted for Democratic Sen. John Kerry over President Bush in 2004.

The survey estimates there are roughly 2.35 million Muslim Americans. Among adults, two-thirds are from abroad while a fifth are U.S.-born blacks.

By law, the Census Bureau does not ask about people's religions.

Telephone interviews were conducted with 1,050 Muslim adults from January through April, including in Arabic, Urdu and Farsi. Subjects were chosen at random, from a separate list of households including some with Muslim-sounding names, and from Muslim households that had answered previous surveys.

The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 5 percentage points.


http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=nation_world&id=5331418

Gaffer
05-23-2007, 09:01 PM
There are 2 million muslims in the US. 25% of 2 million is 500,000. Anyone think there's not a threat here?

Gunny
05-23-2007, 09:11 PM
There are 2 million muslims in the US. 25% of 2 million is 500,000. Anyone think there's not a threat here?

You mean you aren't waiting with baited breath for the "Why not's" to come along and call you a racist?

Of course it's a threat. A serious one. I may need to go buy a a new gun ....(like I need an excuse.:laugh2: ).

Gaffer
05-23-2007, 09:32 PM
You mean you aren't waiting with baited breath for the "Why not's" to come along and call you a racist?

Of course it's a threat. A serious one. I may need to go buy a a new gun ....(like I need an excuse.:laugh2: ).

They can call me a racist all day, I am when it comes to muslims. Though technically its not racist as I don't care what color they are. I want to look into a 12 gauge pump action myself.

Abbey Marie
05-23-2007, 09:57 PM
WASHINGTON - One in four younger U.S. Muslims said in a poll that suicide bombings to defend their religion are acceptable at least in some circumstances, though most Muslim Americans overwhelmingly reject the tactic and are critical of Islamic extremism and al-Qaida.

The survey by the Pew Research Center, one of the most exhaustive ever of the country's Muslims, revealed a community that in many ways blends comfortably into society. Its largely mainstream members express nearly as much happiness with their lives and communities as the general public does, show a broad willingness to adopt American customs, and have income and education levels similar to others in the U.S.

Even so, the survey revealed noteworthy pockets of discontent.

While nearly 80 percent of U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings of civilians to defend Islam can not be justified, 13 percent say they can be, at least rarely.

That sentiment is strongest among those younger than 30. Two percent of them say it can often be justified, 13 percent say sometimes and 11 percent say rarely.

It is a hair-raising number," said Radwan Masmoudi, president of the Washington-based Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, which promotes the compatibility of Islam with democracy.

He said most supporters of the attacks likely assumed the context was a fight against occupation — a term Muslims often use to describe the conflict with Israel.

U.S. Muslims have growing Internet and television access to extreme ideologies, he said, adding: "People, especially younger people, are susceptible to these ideas."
...
In other findings:

By six-to-one, they favor the Democratic Party over the Republican Party, and by five-to-one say they voted for Democratic Sen. John Kerry over President Bush in 2004.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070522/ap_on_re_us/poll_muslim_americans

Psychoblues
05-23-2007, 10:11 PM
What about the other 75%, abby?





WASHINGTON - One in four younger U.S. Muslims said in a poll that suicide bombings to defend their religion are acceptable at least in some circumstances, though most Muslim Americans overwhelmingly reject the tactic and are critical of Islamic extremism and al-Qaida.

The survey by the Pew Research Center, one of the most exhaustive ever of the country's Muslims, revealed a community that in many ways blends comfortably into society. Its largely mainstream members express nearly as much happiness with their lives and communities as the general public does, show a broad willingness to adopt American customs, and have income and education levels similar to others in the U.S.

Even so, the survey revealed noteworthy pockets of discontent.

While nearly 80 percent of U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings of civilians to defend Islam can not be justified, 13 percent say they can be, at least rarely.

That sentiment is strongest among those younger than 30. Two percent of them say it can often be justified, 13 percent say sometimes and 11 percent say rarely.

It is a hair-raising number," said Radwan Masmoudi, president of the Washington-based Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, which promotes the compatibility of Islam with democracy.

He said most supporters of the attacks likely assumed the context was a fight against occupation — a term Muslims often use to describe the conflict with Israel.

U.S. Muslims have growing Internet and television access to extreme ideologies, he said, adding: "People, especially younger people, are susceptible to these ideas."
...
In other findings:

By six-to-one, they favor the Democratic Party over the Republican Party, and by five-to-one say they voted for Democratic Sen. John Kerry over President Bush in 2004.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070522/ap_on_re_us/poll_muslim_americans

Approximately 75% of ALL Americans think gwb is the idiot that he has proven himself to be. Where do you fall in that percentage?

-Cp
05-23-2007, 10:16 PM
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=3605

nevadamedic
05-23-2007, 10:20 PM
WASHINGTON - One in four younger U.S. Muslims said in a poll that suicide bombings to defend their religion are acceptable at least in some circumstances, though most Muslim Americans overwhelmingly reject the tactic and are critical of Islamic extremism and al-Qaida.

The survey by the Pew Research Center, one of the most exhaustive ever of the country's Muslims, revealed a community that in many ways blends comfortably into society. Its largely mainstream members express nearly as much happiness with their lives and communities as the general public does, show a broad willingness to adopt American customs, and have income and education levels similar to others in the U.S.

Even so, the survey revealed noteworthy pockets of discontent.

While nearly 80 percent of U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings of civilians to defend Islam can not be justified, 13 percent say they can be, at least rarely.

That sentiment is strongest among those younger than 30. Two percent of them say it can often be justified, 13 percent say sometimes and 11 percent say rarely.

It is a hair-raising number," said Radwan Masmoudi, president of the Washington-based Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, which promotes the compatibility of Islam with democracy.

He said most supporters of the attacks likely assumed the context was a fight against occupation — a term Muslims often use to describe the conflict with Israel.

U.S. Muslims have growing Internet and television access to extreme ideologies, he said, adding: "People, especially younger people, are susceptible to these ideas."
...
In other findings:

By six-to-one, they favor the Democratic Party over the Republican Party, and by five-to-one say they voted for Democratic Sen. John Kerry over President Bush in 2004.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070522/ap_on_re_us/poll_muslim_americans

Where did you find this? You always get good articles, it's awsome!

-Cp
05-23-2007, 10:24 PM
Where did you find this? You always get good articles, it's awsome!

Howcome she gets the praise for posting something I already posted? :/

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=3605

loosecannon
05-23-2007, 10:31 PM
Psycho blues is dead on, the article is based on a complete statistical misrepresentation.

by the same methodology I could say that among 25% of Americans 60% say that bombing abortion clinics is justified (mostly those under 30 yoa) and 25% say murdering abortion doctors in cold blood in front of children is the work of God's chosen.

It is a statistical trick turned for the sake of grotesque deception.

Psychoblues
05-23-2007, 10:32 PM
Is "praise" any accurate commentary? I don't think so. Anyone care to venture into the 75% population?

nevadamedic
05-23-2007, 10:37 PM
Howcome she gets the praise for posting something I already posted? :/

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=3605

Im sorry, I didn't realize you did. You also post really awesome threads as well.

Pale Rider
05-24-2007, 01:36 AM
Psycho blues is dead on, the article is based on a complete statistical misrepresentation.

by the same methodology I could say that among 25% of Americans 60% say that bombing abortion clinics is justified (mostly those under 30 yoa) and 25% say murdering abortion doctors in cold blood in front of children is the work of God's chosen.

It is a statistical trick turned for the sake of grotesque deception.

Why is it that every time a study is done that brings to the light of day, a very disturbing statistic, you liberals come to the defense of it? It makes me believe that if Hitler were alive today, you would be defending him as well. You liberals defend homo's, pedophiles, terrorists, illegal aliens, murder of the unborn, etc., etc., and now you come to the defense of someone that see's nothing wrong with walking up to YOU and blowing the both of you to hell. Can you explain to me why that is?

-Cp
05-24-2007, 03:16 AM
Why is it that every time a study is done that brings to the light of day, a very disturbing statistic, you liberals come to the defense of it? It makes me believe that if Hitler were alive today, you would be defending him as well. You liberals defend homo's, pedophiles, terrorists, illegal aliens, murder of the unborn, etc., etc., and now you come to the defense of someone that see's nothing wrong with walking up to YOU and blowing the both of you to hell. Can you explain to me why that is?

That's because liberals always defend things that are illegal and morally bankrupt...

Pale Rider
05-24-2007, 03:28 AM
That's because liberals always defend things that are illegal and morally bankrupt...

That's really what it looks like -Cp, even if it's bad for them too. It's like they're too ignorant to see.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink.