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Kathianne
07-30-2012, 02:30 PM
Unreal. It's been said that 'anyone' who was president would have made the same call, we all accepted that. This guy though, took him 4 times.



http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/29/obama-canceled-bin-laden-kill-raid-three-times-valerie-jarrett/


At the urging of Valerie Jarrett, President Barack Obama (http://topics.dailycaller.com/politics/obama-administration/barack-obama.htm) canceled the operation to kill Osama bin Laden on three separate occasions before finally approving the May 2, 2011 Navy SEAL mission, according to an explosive new book scheduled for release August 21. The Daily Caller has seen a portion of the chapter in which the stunning revelation appears.


In ”Leading From Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him, (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/125001610X/thedaical-20)“ Richard Miniter writes that Obama canceled the “kill” mission in January 2011, again in February, and a third time in March. Obama’s close adviser Valerie Jarrett persuaded him to hold off each time, according to the book.


Miniter, a two-time New York Times best-selling author, cites an unnamed source with Joint Special Operations Command who had direct knowledge of the operation and its planning.


Obama administration officials also said after the raid that the president had delayed giving the order to kill the arch-terrorist the day before the operation was carried out, in what turned out to be his fourth moment of indecision. At the time, the White House blamed the delay on unfavorable weather conditions near bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.


But when Miniter obtained that day’s weather reports from the U.S. Air Force Combat Meteorological Center, he said, they showed ideal conditions for the SEALs to carry out their orders.

“President Obama’s greatest success was actually his greatest failure,” Miniter told The Daily Caller Friday. ”Leading From Behind, (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/125001610X/thedaical-20)“ he said, traces the arc of six key Obama administration decisions, and shows how the president made them — and, often, failed to make them.


Another chapter, he told TheDC, concerns the push to pass the Affordable Care Act. The president, Miniter said, was less interested than then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in passing his own signature legislative achievement.
Osama bin Laden steered the global operations of the al-Qaida terror network until his death last year at the hands of the U.S. Navy’s SEAL Team Six. The president and his surrogates have made the terrorist leader’s death a focal point in Obama’s re-election campaign, painting Obama as a decisive leader who took down America’s greatest mortal enemy.

gabosaurus
07-30-2012, 03:54 PM
The president and his surrogates have made the terrorist leader’s death a focal point in Obama’s re-election campaign, painting Obama as a decisive leader who took down America’s greatest mortal enemy.


A -- bin Laden is dead. Why does it matter how or when he was killed?

B -- Dubya based his 2004 campaign almost entirely on the 9-11 attacks. To the point where the GOP Convention was placed in Manhattan on the latest date in the party's history.

Kathianne
07-30-2012, 05:28 PM
A -- bin Laden is dead. Why does it matter how or when he was killed?

B -- Dubya based his 2004 campaign almost entirely on the 9-11 attacks. To the point where the GOP Convention was placed in Manhattan on the latest date in the party's history.

When a NYT writer has a problem with how Obama opts out of decisions, you've no problem? This was a gimme and he waffled, time and again.

logroller
07-30-2012, 05:47 PM
Fwiw, not going in was a decision, not waffling. I find uninteresting an unnamed person swears by all this during an election year.

darin
07-30-2012, 06:04 PM
Unless somebody has access to the specific briefs and decision-points, it's stupid to arm-chair quarterback a decision like this. Pro, or against.

Gaffer
07-30-2012, 06:26 PM
This ties in with something I read way back when it happened. Clinton and Penetta made the decision to go ahead with the strike and did so to keep jarrett out of the loop because she was always stopping the planned operations. They kept it under wraps until the last minute, then dragged barely the president in to view the operation and get his approval without jarrett being there. jarrett was furious.

Roo
07-30-2012, 06:28 PM
This ties in with something I read way back when it happened. Clinton and Penetta made the decision to go ahead with the strike and did so to keep jarrett out of the loop because she was always stopping the planned operations. They kept it under wraps until the last minute, then dragged barely the president in to view the operation and get his approval without jarrett being there. jarrett was furious.

That makes sense, where did you find that?

Anton Chigurh
07-30-2012, 06:54 PM
Obama Cancelled Bin Laden Raid 3 TimesMatches the amount of times Bill Clinton allowed Bin laden to roam free when other countries had him and offered him to us in the 90s, when Bin laden was public enemy #1, was indicted, and for some reason Billy really didn't want to "touch that hot potato" as he himself said.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-30-2012, 08:17 PM
Matches the amount of times Bill Clinton allowed Bin laden to roam free when other countries had him and offered him to us in the 90s, when Bin laden was public enemy #1, was indicted, and for some reason Billy really didn't want to "touch that hot potato" as he himself said.

So what? Were they both cowards? Both afraid to piss off the muslims by making an example of Bin laden?-Tyr

grannyhawkins
07-30-2012, 08:45 PM
I'm not a big billy fan, but I think the Bushes and bin ladens go way, way back. Too much money involved and billy boy had a chance during the lewinsky thang, but I think it got shelved as lookin like a distraction to the lewinsky thang.

gabosaurus
07-30-2012, 09:34 PM
I'm not a big billy fan, but I think the Bushes and bin ladens go way, way back. Too much money involved and billy boy had a chance during the lewinsky thang, but I think it got shelved as lookin like a distraction to the lewinsky thang.

Clinton deserves plenty of the blame for not going after bin Laden. But a lot of the blame should also fall on the FBI and CIA, which were so busy trying to get a "kill" for themselves that they refused to share information. And even worked against each other at time.

Bush never wanted to seriously go after bin Laden or anyone in his group. That is why he initially sent 110,000 troops to Iraq and less than one-tenths of that to Afghanistan. Big Oil still wanted to run a pipeline through Afghanistan. And Bush didn't want to rile up the Saudis.
Also, Bush needed bin Laden around as the figurehead of his bogus "War on Terror." bin Laden was the Bogeyman, the guy who would rape your kids and kill your pets. He was more valuable alive than dead.

Dilloduck
07-30-2012, 09:49 PM
Clinton deserves plenty of the blame for not going after bin Laden. But a lot of the blame should also fall on the FBI and CIA, which were so busy trying to get a "kill" for themselves that they refused to share information. And even worked against each other at time.

Bush never wanted to seriously go after bin Laden or anyone in his group. That is why he initially sent 110,000 troops to Iraq and less than one-tenths of that to Afghanistan. Big Oil still wanted to run a pipeline through Afghanistan. And Bush didn't want to rile up the Saudis.
Also, Bush needed bin Laden around as the figurehead of his bogus "War on Terror." bin Laden was the Bogeyman, the guy who would rape your kids and kill your pets. He was more valuable alive than dead.

Still coulda been---thanks a bunch, Obama. You killed our intel.

Anton Chigurh
07-30-2012, 10:16 PM
So what?There might not have been a 9/11 attack perhaps?

Kathianne
07-30-2012, 11:06 PM
Seems there's two books about to be released that cover some of the 'story behind' the Obama White House, including discussions on drone attacks and bin Laden raid:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/obama-national-security_n_1701888.html

The above is a 'pro' review on both, neither of which is all that hard on Obama. These are 'positive' stories including discussion on the 'leaks' and punishments.

taft2012
07-31-2012, 05:33 AM
Big Oil still wanted to run a pipeline through Afghanistan.

Wow, thanks for that little trip down memory lane.

What was the lib mantra back then? Wasn't it something about Unocal being the *REAL* reason for the war?

Yeah, something like that:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1984459.stm

So, 10 years later, what's the status of this pipeline? How rich has it made Cheney, Halliburton, and Unocal?

Or were libs once again just orating from their sphincters?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-31-2012, 10:26 AM
There might not have been a 9/11 attack perhaps?

So we killed Osama, have they surrendered yet? Didnt think so and that leaves us with the reality that the religion opposes and fights us not a single man.. Sure they'll say its some radicals extremists but the Koran justifies those radicals's actions with jihad. That group of radical extremists represents at least 10% of an estimated billion+ followers, 100 million muslims thinking we are to be destroyed is not a trivial matter. Especially when the radical minority controls the whole.
9/11 was a slap upside our collective heads saying in essence we oppose you , we will dominate you and you will bow to Allah IMHO.-Tyr

Gaffer
07-31-2012, 10:31 AM
That makes sense, where did you find that?As I recall it was on anti-mullah.http://noiri.blogspot.com/