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Hobbit
05-24-2007, 11:53 AM
Well, it was bound to happen. Two teenage girls have been arrested for posting fliers showing one boy kissing another. The article never says what the fliers said, just that it was 'hateful.' One girl has been placed under house arrest. The other was denied bond due to a previous juvenille record and 'home environment.' Now, the fliers seem to have been a personal attack against somebody the girls knew, but this is still a legal horror. This should have been a school discipline problem, not a frickin' arrest.

BTW, anybody remember when Eric Cartman was charged with a hate crime? Basically the same thing. The girls put up inappropriate fliers attacking a student. The principal stepped in to discipline the kids, but then the police stepped up and basically said, "It's ok if you did this to a non-protected minority or majority, but you attacked somebody who was gay, so you're under arrest."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275096,00.html

LiberalNation
05-24-2007, 12:27 PM
You get arrested for things like this and just about anything if it happens in school. They always bring in cops and press charges. Terroristic threatening can get you more time then a fight.

Hobbit
05-24-2007, 12:41 PM
You get arrested for things like this and just about anything if it happens in school. They always bring in cops and press charges. Terroristic threatening can get you more time then a fight.

Yeah, I've been in high school, but there was no threat here. If the fliers hadn't been about a gay guy, the cops would have nothing to charge them with, and the douchebaggery would have ended rather quickly.

LiberalNation
05-24-2007, 01:51 PM
but it was, got to be carefull. If they can find a way to charge you they will. The school can't really punish so they hand it to the cops.

Hobbit
05-24-2007, 02:40 PM
but it was, got to be carefull. If they can find a way to charge you they will. The school can't really punish so they hand it to the cops.

Sure they can. Suspend them. Give them detention. Do whatever, but stay in your jurisdiction. Let's face it. The cops would not have been called in if they hadn't been targetting a gay person.

LiberalNation
05-24-2007, 02:42 PM
We have 2 cops in our school full time that invistigate stuff like this and a uniformed cop that walks the halls at night. They don't call them in, in a lot of places, they are already there.l

Hobbit
05-24-2007, 02:52 PM
We have 2 cops in our school full time that invistigate stuff like this and a uniformed cop that walks the halls at night. They don't call them in, in a lot of places, they are already there.l

You're still missing the point. There would have been no arrest made if this hadn't been targeting some poor, pitiful minority. It's thought crime.

LiberalNation
05-24-2007, 02:54 PM
Those poor pitifull minorities have laws that protect them and if you break the law, cops come, and you are punished by the courts.

5stringJeff
05-24-2007, 03:31 PM
Those poor pitifull minorities have laws that protect them and if you break the law, cops come, and you are punished by the courts.

Speech about homosexual behavior is not and should not EVER be a crime!

nevadamedic
05-24-2007, 03:34 PM
You get arrested for things like this and just about anything if it happens in school. They always bring in cops and press charges. Terroristic threatening can get you more time then a fight.

They only get the cops involved because they are afraid of another Columbine or Virginia Tech, it is the atmosphere.

nevadamedic
05-24-2007, 03:35 PM
Sure they can. Suspend them. Give them detention. Do whatever, but stay in your jurisdiction. Let's face it. The cops would not have been called in if they hadn't been targetting a gay person.

They should have been expelled, but arrested? They are school kids, thats dumb.

nevadamedic
05-24-2007, 03:44 PM
Speech about homosexual behavior is not and should not EVER be a crime!

Yes it should, it encourages violent and hatred behavior.

5stringJeff
05-24-2007, 04:01 PM
Yes it should, it encourages violent and hatred behavior.

So if I say that my religion calls homosexual behavior sinful, that should be banned speech?!?

Abbey Marie
05-24-2007, 04:08 PM
When do they go to the re-education camps?

Hugh Lincoln
05-24-2007, 08:36 PM
When do they go to the re-education camps?

Actually, they're AT the re-education camp --- it's called public school, USA. These girls just weren't going along with the program.

Guernicaa
05-24-2007, 08:46 PM
Speech about homosexual behavior is not and should not EVER be a crime!
Telling them "I think engaging in homosexual behavior is a sin and that your going to hell" is perfectly acceptable.

Whats not acceptable is saying "fag!" or "queer!"...
Those words are no different than "spic" or "nigger".

nevadamedic
05-24-2007, 08:51 PM
So if I say that my religion calls homosexual behavior sinful, that should be banned speech?!?

In your religion it doesn't have you go out and promote hate literature like these girls did. It teaches you that it's a sin thats it. If you do anything against the sinner then youo no different then a Muslim Terrorist.:salute:

5stringJeff
05-24-2007, 09:08 PM
Telling them "I think engaging in homosexual behavior is a sin and that your going to hell" is perfectly acceptable.

Whats not acceptable is saying "fag!" or "queer!"...
Those words are no different than "spic" or "nigger".

And none of those words should be illegal, either. You may disagree that such words are appropriate, but that is not grounds for banning them from being uttered.

5stringJeff
05-24-2007, 09:11 PM
In your religion it doesn't have you go out and promote hate literature like these girls did. It teaches you that it's a sin thats it. If you do anything against the sinner then youo no different then a Muslim Terrorist.:salute:

The story doesn't say what exactly the girls said that was considered "hate speech." Some gay groups consider simply calling homosexual behavior sin to be hate speech.

As long as the letters were not threatening or libelous in nature, the girls should not be charged with anything.

Doniston
05-24-2007, 09:16 PM
I too would like to know what these girls did other than show a picture of two boys kissing

LiberalNation
05-24-2007, 09:35 PM
And none of those words should be illegal, either. You may disagree that such words are appropriate, but that is not grounds for banning them from being uttered.

Well It is in a school setting.

Hobbit
05-24-2007, 09:45 PM
Well It is in a school setting.

Then expel them. There should be no arrest.

Abbey Marie
05-24-2007, 11:04 PM
Actually, they're AT the re-education camp --- it's called public school, USA. These girls just weren't going along with the program.

Good point.

5stringJeff
06-02-2007, 12:54 PM
Then expel them. There should be no arrest.

Exactly.