One explanation on so many votes for Obama

[jimnyc]

Some can deny all they like, but many people voted for just this reason and not only blacks.

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[jimnyc]

Oh, and yes, that is an MSNBC host in the video.

[fj1200]

What a bunch of gibberish. Do they have any ratings? The folly though is thinking their would have been much difference in voting if HRC was running.

[aboutime]

Oh, and yes, that is an MSNBC host in the video.



Also. For MessNBC. The bottom of the trash can in the MessNBC cafeteria is BLACK.

[SassyLady]

What a bunch of gibberish. Do they have any ratings? The folly though is thinking their would have been much difference in voting if HRC was running.
Not saying they voted because they saw this but that this clip reflects
How the voters think.

[revelarts]

Minorities may have put Obama over the top but over 40% of whites voted Obama.
still the largest block of voters numbers wise for Obama i believe.

Look at the basic breakdown of Mr. Obama’s victory, according to exit polls (which may yet be revised). He won 93 percent of African-Americans, 71 percent of Hispanics, and 73 percent of Asians. He took 55 percent of the overall female vote, down only one percentage point from his comparable 2008 showing.
Mitt Romney (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Mitt+Romney), meanwhile, won about 59 percent of the white vote. That’s the best a GOP (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/U.S.+Republican+Party) nominee has done among whites since 1988, and not too long ago such a performance might have guaranteed a winning margin of 270 electoral votes. After all, whites still make up 72 percent of US (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/United+States) voters.


And It's funny how many people think race is the real reason why nearly everyone voted for who they did. Maybe i just didn't the memo.

[glockmail]

Not a single liberal will question this:

In this first set of Cuyahoga County precincts, Mitt Romney received exactly zero votes in each instance…

0154 CLEVELAND -02-Q: 542 - 0 0192 CLEVELAND -04-L: 388 - 0 0204 CLEVELAND -05-E: 597 - 0 0205 CLEVELAND -05-F: 483 - 0 0206 CLEVELAND -05-G: 257 - 0 0219 CLEVELAND -05-T: 386 - 0 0228 CLEVELAND -06-H: 405 - 0 0232 CLEVELAND -06-L: 70 - 0 0233 CLEVELAND -06-M: 419 - 0 0241 CLEVELAND -06-U: 118 - 0 0248 CLEVELAND -07-F: 361 - 0 0273 CLEVELAND -08-J: 472 - 0 0280 CLEVELAND -08-Q: 49 - 0 0285 CLEVELAND -09-B: 414 - 0 0288 CLEVELAND -09-E: 478 - 0 0523 EAST CLEVELAND -04-C: 486 - 0

Are we actually supposed to believe that not a single person wanted to vote for Mitt Romney in any of those precincts?
But wait, there’s more.
In this next set of results we get to see many of the precincts where Mitt Romney received exactly one vote…

0118 CLEVELAND -01-A: 438 - 1 0144 CLEVELAND -02-G: 532 - 1 0183 CLEVELAND -04-C: 548 - 1 0185 CLEVELAND -04-E: 522 - 1 0190 CLEVELAND -04-J: 434 - 1 0200 CLEVELAND -05-A: 364 - 1 0217 CLEVELAND -05-R: 357 - 1 0240 CLEVELAND -06-T: 148 - 1 0272 CLEVELAND -08-I: 473 - 1 0274 CLEVELAND -08-K: 382 - 1 0276 CLEVELAND -08-M: 492 - 1 0279 CLEVELAND -08-P: 378 - 1 0284 CLEVELAND -09-A: 320 - 1 0287 CLEVELAND -09-D: 394 - 1 0289 CLEVELAND -09-F: 468 - 1 0290 CLEVELAND -09-G: 400 - 1 0303 CLEVELAND -10-C: 471 - 1 0312 CLEVELAND -10-L: 363 - 1 0314 CLEVELAND -10-N: 340 - 1 0315 CLEVELAND -10-O: 473 - 1 0512 EAST CLEVELAND -02-D: 437 - 1 0513 EAST CLEVELAND -02-E: 359 - 1 1040 WARRENSVILLE HTS -02-A: 523 - 1 1041 WARRENSVILLE HTS -02-B: 514 - 1

Do these numbers look believable to anyone out there?
Now let’s look at some of the Cuyahoga County precincts were Mitt Romney received exactly two votes…

0120 CLEVELAND -01-C: 531 - 2 0128 CLEVELAND -01-K: 470 - 2 0136 CLEVELAND -01-S: 635 - 2 0147 CLEVELAND -02-J: 541 - 2 0148 CLEVELAND -02-K: 632 - 2 0149 CLEVELAND -02-L: 531 - 2 0153 CLEVELAND -02-P: 564 - 2 0155 CLEVELAND -02-R: 509 - 2 0187 CLEVELAND -04-G: 491 - 2 0188 CLEVELAND -04-H: 508 - 2 0194 CLEVELAND -04-N: 520 - 2 0211 CLEVELAND -05-L: 461 - 2 0213 CLEVELAND -05-N: 324 - 2 0222 CLEVELAND -06-B: 637 - 2 0225 CLEVELAND -06-E: 505 - 2 0226 CLEVELAND -06-F: 342 - 2 0234 CLEVELAND -06-N: 244 - 2 0236 CLEVELAND -06-P: 438 - 2 0249 CLEVELAND -07-G: 446 - 2 0250 CLEVELAND -07-H: 358 - 2 0251 CLEVELAND -07-I: 445 - 2 0253 CLEVELAND -07-K: 429 - 2 0256 CLEVELAND -07-N: 433 - 2 0262 CLEVELAND -07-T: 363 - 2 0269 CLEVELAND -08-F: 463 - 2 0270 CLEVELAND -08-G: 516 - 2 0278 CLEVELAND -08-O: 405 - 2 0302 CLEVELAND -10-B: 452 - 2 0311 CLEVELAND -10-K: 476 - 2 0511 EAST CLEVELAND -02-C: 319 - 2 0515 EAST CLEVELAND -03-A: 359 - 2 0516 EAST CLEVELAND -03-B: 459 - 2 0519 EAST CLEVELAND -03-E: 293 - 2 0526 EAST CLEVELAND -04-F: 517 - 2 0625 HIGHLAND HILLS -00-A: 377 - 2
These numbers look even more bizarre when you start comparing them with the overall results from the rest of Cuyahoga County that you can find right here (http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/ElectionResults2012/11062012UnofficialResultsbyPrecinct.HTM).
The results from most of the precincts look very much like what you would expect from a competitive national election.
But there are more than 100 precincts where the results look incredibly suspicious. Here are some more precincts where Barack Obama won more than 99% of the vote…

0119 CLEVELAND -01-B: 558 - 4 0121 CLEVELAND -01-D: 452 - 3 0122 CLEVELAND -01-E: 671 - 5 0123 CLEVELAND -01-F: 704 - 6 0124 CLEVELAND -01-G: 543 - 3 0126 CLEVELAND -01-I: 674 - 4 0127 CLEVELAND -01-J: 687 - 4 0130 CLEVELAND -01-M: 781 - 4 0132 CLEVELAND -01-O: 615 - 4 0133 CLEVELAND -01-P: 733 - 5 0134 CLEVELAND -01-Q: 753 - 6 0135 CLEVELAND -01-R: 697 - 5 0142 CLEVELAND -02-E: 434 - 3 0145 CLEVELAND -02-H: 571 - 3 0150 CLEVELAND -02-M: 503 - 4 0151 CLEVELAND -02-N: 601 - 3 0152 CLEVELAND -02-O: 621 - 3 0156 CLEVELAND -02-S: 471 - 4 0157 CLEVELAND -03-A: 489 - 3 0184 CLEVELAND -04-D: 576 - 3 0186 CLEVELAND -04-F: 572 - 3 0189 CLEVELAND -04-I: 503 - 3 0191 CLEVELAND -04-K: 508 - 4 0193 CLEVELAND -04-M: 497 - 4 0195 CLEVELAND -04-O: 599 - 3 0196 CLEVELAND -04-P: 443 - 3 0199 CLEVELAND -04-S: 686 - 5 0203 CLEVELAND -05-D: 569 - 4 0207 CLEVELAND -05-H: 341 - 3 0210 CLEVELAND -05-K: 427 - 3 0212 CLEVELAND -05-M: 340 - 3 0216 CLEVELAND -05-Q: 461 - 4 0218 CLEVELAND -05-S: 515 - 5 0221 CLEVELAND -06-A: 701 - 3 0223 CLEVELAND -06-C: 462 - 4 0227 CLEVELAND -06-G: 401 - 3 0230 CLEVELAND -06-J: 475 - 4 0254 CLEVELAND -07-L: 447 - 4 0261 CLEVELAND -07-S: 449 - 4 0271 CLEVELAND -08-H: 552 - 4 0275 CLEVELAND -08-L: 499 - 3 0282 CLEVELAND -08-S: 517 - 4 0292 CLEVELAND -09-I: 423 - 4 0294 CLEVELAND -09-K: 445 - 4 0307 CLEVELAND -10-G: 428 - 4 0317 CLEVELAND -10-Q: 446 - 3 0320 CLEVELAND -10-T: 654 - 5 0510 EAST CLEVELAND -02-B: 401 - 4 0518 EAST CLEVELAND -03-D: 374 - 3 0520 EAST CLEVELAND -03-F: 457 - 3 0521 EAST CLEVELAND -04-A: 453 - 4 1045 WARRENSVILLE HTS -04-B: 598 - 4 1049 WARRENSVILLE HTS -06-B: 480 - 4

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[jimnyc]

Minorities may have put Obama over the top but over 40% of whites voted Obama.
still the largest block of voters numbers wise for Obama i believe.

And It's funny how many people think race is the real reason why nearly everyone voted for who they did. Maybe i just didn't the memo.

If 40% of whites voted Obama, how many Romney? I'm betting a similar amount. That doesn't sound like they voted based on race at all. And I don't think anyone at all, that I'm aware of, think "nearly everyone" voted based on race, only the blacks. And all? I don't think that either, but I think a TON did based solely on his skin color. Hell, there are thousands of videos out there that more or less prove this. SO many blacks outright admit this, but you won't find many whites stating as much. And hell, many blacks who deny voting based on race can't even answer basic questions about Obama and his political stances.

This doesn't mean that there weren't a share of white voters who voted Romney because they are anti-black, but there's a LOT more pointing to people voting for Obama based on color alone.

[revelarts]

If 40% of whites voted Obama, how many Romney? I'm betting a similar amount. That doesn't sound like they voted based on race at all. And I don't think anyone at all, that I'm aware of, think "nearly everyone" voted based on race, only the blacks. And all? I don't think that either, but I think a TON did based solely on his skin color. Hell, there are thousands of videos out there that more or less prove this. SO many blacks outright admit this, but you won't find many whites stating as much. And hell, many blacks who deny voting based on race can't even answer basic questions about Obama and his political stances.

This doesn't mean that there weren't a share of white voters who voted Romney because they are anti-black, but there's a LOT more pointing to people voting for Obama based on color alone.
I can't argue with a lot of that

but you know as well as i that Many whites can't articulate a good reason to vote for Romney or Obama either. (but minorities are worse so it's wronger:rolleyes:)
And sure a lots of black voted for Obama because he was Black. Do you think those blacks would have voted for Romney If Obama was a White Democrat instead? Or do you Know that they would have voted Democrat ANYWAY. I'm not sure what the numbers jump from a Mondale, Carter, Dukakus, Clinton,and Gore was but probably not as high as the the level of consternation many people seem to have with the idea that Blacks Voted DEMOCRAT AGAIN. Surprise, Surprise how did that happen?!! :eek:.
And they had another reason, he was Black. the 1st black President ever in the U.S.. Why would they do that? 'It's just crazy and wrong and they should stop it.' yeah, sure they should. The republicans show they love and respect black people so much right? I mean c'mon.
I don't agree with it of course but i get it. And they were going to vote demcrat Anyway, so i just don't get the hand wringing.
Most blacks have voted for whites all their lives and their parents and grandparents too. but now they are just too 'racist' to vote anymore. 'they aren't fair.'
Sorry Jim i don't agree with it but i can understand it, and not assume it's a hate whitey vote.

[revelarts]

Not a single liberal will question this:

In this first set of Cuyahoga County precincts, Mitt Romney received exactly zero votes in each instance…
..

» Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99 Percent Of The Vote In More Than 100 Ohio Precincts... (http://www.infowars.com/fraud-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts-2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

thats interesting.
reminds me of a comic book where Lex Luthor won the presidency by 101% of the vote.
I hope there's an investigation but ,
"what good would that do the country" is the sound I hear coming across the lips of wise and sober Americans. "Stealing elections should be stop be we won't do it because it might sully the democratic process and people's confidence in the voting process or ...gov't."
something like that anyway.

[jimnyc]

Sorry Jim i don't agree with it but i can understand it, and not assume it's a hate whitey vote.

I don't think it was hate whitey either, but rather vote black because it's a first and he's the same color as me. Not really a very good reason to vote for a candidate. I can understand why, but that doesn't mean it makes any political sense at all and sure as shit won't help America to vote based on skin color.

Hell, you have an MSNBC reporter in the OP that shows why he is so happy, and so, so, so many others who have expressed similarly. And don't get me wrong, great for the black community that they are seeing "fairness" in having a black man in the highest office - but again, that doesn't make any political sense, only sense in voting with ones heart or feelings. As I've said many times, I think people should have an idea of what they want for this country, their states, communities and themselves and their families. They should vote for the candidate that most closely represents that. I have a hard time believing that 93% of black folks sat back and decided Obama was best for their communities and families - especially given the economical damage that worsened to the black community. There's very little doubt in my mind that many of them were enamored over the first black man in office. Had the candidates been hidden behind walls and we could only read about what they proposed for our country and communities, I think the % of blacks voting for Obama would have been substantially lower. Many saw skin color and nothing else.

[gabosaurus]

Black people DID read about what Obama proposed for our country and communities.
Then they read what the GOP proposed for our country and communities.
It was the same thing with Latinos, women and young people.
Which is why the election turned out the way that it did.

But keep deluding yourself into thinking it was about race if it makes you feel better.

[revelarts]

I don't think it was hate whitey either, but rather vote black because it's a first and he's the same color as me. Not really a very good reason to vote for a candidate. I can understand why, but that doesn't mean it makes any political sense at all and sure as shit won't help America to vote based on skin color.

Hell, you have an MSNBC reporter in the OP that shows why he is so happy, and so, so, so many others who have expressed similarly. And don't get me wrong, great for the black community that they are seeing "fairness" in having a black man in the highest office - but again, that doesn't make any political sense, only sense in voting with ones heart or feelings. As I've said many times, I think people should have an idea of what they want for this country, their states, communities and themselves and their families. They should vote for the candidate that most closely represents that. I have a hard time believing that 93% of black folks sat back and decided Obama was best for their communities and families - especially given the economical damage that worsened to the black community. There's very little doubt in my mind that many of them were enamored over the first black man in office. Had the candidates been hidden behind walls and we could only read about what they proposed for our country and communities, I think the % of blacks voting for Obama would have been substantially lower. Many saw skin color and nothing else.
Political inertia on all sides is a powerful drug. Knee jerk, gut feelings, personalities, likability, drinking buddy factor, looks, and all that crap work for and against all candidates and is a part of the reason we 're in he mess we're in overall. We dont just look at the raw facts about whats constitutional or practical, or just and follow thru. (coughRonPaulcough)
As far as 93% of Blacks go. just think of this. If Herman Cain had run against Joe Biden or Hilary Clinton who do you think would have gotten 80 to 95% of the Black vote? Not Cain.

[jimnyc]

Political inertia on all sides is a powerful drug. Knee jerk, gut feelings, personalities, likability, drinking buddy factor, looks, and all that crap work for and against all candidates and is a part of the reason we 're in he mess we're in overall. We dont just look at the raw facts about whats constitutional or practical, or just and follow thru. (coughRonPaulcough)
As far as 93% of Blacks go. just think of this. If Herman Cain had run against Joe Biden or Hilary Clinton who do you think would have gotten 80 to 95% of the Black vote? Not Cain.

Against Obama, no, but a significant amount would have voted for Cain if he ran against a white man, whether Cain was R or D. The proof is simply watching the endless amount of videos where the black folks voting show they are clueless in their support. Some are asked about Obama's choice of Sarah Palin for VP and they think it's an awesome choice, until they learn the truth, then it's a horrible choice. Some think Romney's sending of Drones into foreign countries to kill people is unconstitutional, then suddenly a good idea when they hear who really did it. Some think extending the patriot act is unconstitutional when it's what Romney wants, then find it acceptable when told it's Obama. Sure, some of this can be chalked up to stupidity, but if you watch the videos, not all of them seem that dumb. Rather, they are horribly uninformed and simply going with the black man. Do I think ALL blacks did so based on race? Nope. Do I think it would have been enough to have changed the outcome of the election? Nope. But anyone denying that a large chunk of black folk voted simply because he was black simply isn't watching.

Watch/Hear a few in here:

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[revelarts]

If Cain was running against any barely likable White democrat Cain would still lose the Black vote.
By 75% at least.

Some Blacks would vote based on color but many would continue to vote democratic for the same reasons and non reasons as they have before. Just like many Republicans just vote for who ever has an R by their name.

[revelarts]

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this is good video though.

Many republicans would support all of the thing Obamas and Romney agree on here.
And make the same kind of compromises/excuses when they hear things that conflict with their principals.

[mundame]

If Cain was running against any barely likable White democrat Cain would still lose the Black vote.
By 75% at least.

Some Blacks would vote based on color but many would continue to vote democratic for the same reasons and non reasons as they have before. Just like many Republicans just vote for who ever has an R by their name.



Naaaaah, they'd vote for Cain. They LIKE reprobates, corrupt and over-sexed. That's why Rep. Jefferson, the "cold cash" guy who had bribe money in his freezer, kept winning reelection.

Look at Jesse Jackson Jr.: he was just re-elected. Although he's in a mental hospital currently and never came out during the election and is going on trial for gross corruption. That's all okay with his constituency. They don't need 'em honest: they just need 'em black.

[jimnyc]

If Cain was running against any barely likable White democrat Cain would still lose the Black vote.
By 75% at least.

Some Blacks would vote based on color but many would continue to vote democratic for the same reasons and non reasons as they have before. Just like many Republicans just vote for who ever has an R by their name.

I can go along with that, but you have to admit, nearly 20% of a voting block switching based on race IS a significant amount. No doubt black folks have always voted Dem, or at least the past 40-50 years, but as shown in those videos, a significant amount don't even have a clue about current politics or stances. And I'm sure there are a certain amount of white voters who vote for certain parties without a lot of knowledge, and some on race - but this is the 1st time an election was held for this office with a black incumbent, and hearing black people talk about how great he is on certain things he hasn't done, or complaining about things they think his opponent has done, when it was really him, kind of shows why they really voted. I've seen where some claim he's done such a great job "with jobs" and especially for the black community, when his record on jobs is miserable and MORE so in the black community.

[jimnyc]

Many republicans would support all of the thing Obamas and Romney agree on here.
And make the same kind of compromises/excuses when they hear things that conflict with their principals.

10-1 odds that "most" Republicans would have known they were being deceived with those questions!

[fj1200]

Not saying they voted because they saw this but that this clip reflects
How the voters think.

That may be how SOME think. Why is there a need to make blanket statements about BO voters?


Black people DID read about what Obama proposed for our country and communities.
Then they read what the GOP proposed for our country and communities.
It was the same thing with Latinos, women and young people.
Which is why the election turned out the way that it did.

But keep deluding yourself into thinking it was about race if it makes you feel better.

Of course it's not all about race but you're wrong, they didn't read what he proposed vs. Romney because they still think Dem policies are making their situation better.


Against Obama, no, but a significant amount would have voted for Cain if he ran against a white man, whether Cain was R or D.

No chance. Their bloc is solid Dem race aside.

[revelarts]

I can go along with that, but you have to admit, nearly 20% of a voting block switching based on race IS a significant amount. No doubt black folks have always voted Dem, or at least the past 40-50 years, but as shown in those videos, a significant amount don't even have a clue about current politics or stances. And I'm sure there are a certain amount of white voters who vote for certain parties without a lot of knowledge, and some on race - but this is the 1st time an election was held for this office with a black incumbent, and hearing black people talk about how great he is on certain things he hasn't done, or complaining about things they think his opponent has done, when it was really him, kind of shows why they really voted. I've seen where some claim he's done such a great job "with jobs" and especially for the black community, when his record on jobs is miserable and MORE so in the black community.

It's bad when anybody votes mainly on race, But if we are going to split hairs over it being bad for blacks, even if some whites do it to. Then we should split the hairs an say that some whites will never vote for a black guy. Not out of white pride or anti left-wing principals but just plain mean prejudice against blacks. And often Racist whites are not confronted in the party. (or on message boards) But their views and comments are left to stand while and their persons and opinions are taken seriously even though they are known to be just plain ol racist. Their votes aren't portrayed, in right wing circles, as being tainted and they aren't reviewed at every opportunity, as ONLY RACE BASED opinions. The left lays it at the Rights feet but the right often kicks it away, saying 'it's not true'. but the fact is it is true for some on the Right. And if we want to put race based voting on the table fully we've got to mention that some on the Left will never vote for a black person either.

[jimnyc]

No chance. Their bloc is solid Dem race aside.

Was the voting size always 90+%? I honestly don't know and don't care enough to look - but I have NEVER seen such ignorance on display about a political candidate and the extreme change in stance when found out the person they prefer did or did not do what they are discussing. It's hard to believe someone is voting based on party when they are absolutely clueless about what that party is doing or not doing.

[jimnyc]

It's bad when anybody votes mainly on race, But if we are going to split hairs over it being bad for blacks, even if some whites do it to. Then we should spilt the hairs an say that some whites will never vote for a black guy. Not out of white pride or anti left-wing prinipals but prejudice against blacks. And often Racist whites are not confronted in the party. (or on message boards) But their views and comments are left to stand while and their persons and opinions are taken seriosly even though they are known to be racist. Their votes aren't portrayed, in right wing circles, as being tainted and reviewed at every opportunity, as ONLY RACE BASED opinions. The left lays it at the Rights feet but they often kick it away, saying it's not true. but the fact is it is true for some on the Right. And if we want to put race based voting on the table fully we've got to mention that some on the Left will never vote for a black person either, oddly enough though.

I'm confident you will find MANY whites voted for Obama. I think you said 40% of registered whites voted Romney earlier, who did the other 60% vote for? But I DO agree with you that there are racists on both sides and both races might vote on skin color. But I don't see 93% voting for Romney or any other white candidate. It strikes me as odd when ANY block goes SO predominantly on one candidate. And honestly, there really isn't a good explanation for it, or at least none I have heard or read about yet. Most people can articulate WHY they vote in a certain direction.

[gabosaurus]

Or it could be that the older, more conservative Anglo people fail to realize that they have been fooled all these years and are unable to catch up with reality. They keep having these flashbacks to the 60's where they are fighting to keep the Black Panthers from invading their tony neighborhoods and kidnapping their daughters.
Black people vote their conscience, just the same as whites and Latinos. The only people still stuck on racial stereotypes are the older white guys who still hold fond memories of George Wallace and Strom Thurmond.

[fj1200]

Was the voting size always 90+%? I honestly don't know and don't care enough to look - but I have NEVER seen such ignorance on display about a political candidate and the extreme change in stance when found out the person they prefer did or did not do what they are discussing. It's hard to believe someone is voting based on party when they are absolutely clueless about what that party is doing or not doing.

It's been solid for awhile. I think anyone will find those sorts of videos if they go out and start interviewing low-information voters.

http://factcheck.org/Images/image/2008/ask_factcheck_images/april2008/BlackVote/Black_Vote_Pres.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/

Not that I like Bill Maher but I saw two videos that he ran on his show at some point, the first detailed low-information white voters voting Republican and then, to his credit, another video that detailed low-information black voters voting Democrat. Clueless is limited to no particular party.

[fj1200]

Or it could be that the older, more conservative Anglo people fail to realize that they have been fooled all these years and are unable to catch up with reality. They keep having these flashbacks to the 60's where they are fighting to keep the Black Panthers from invading their tony neighborhoods and kidnapping their daughters.
Black people vote their conscience, just the same as whites and Latinos. The only people still stuck on racial stereotypes are the older white guys who still hold fond memories of George Wallace and Strom Thurmond.

Wow, such balderdash. You fit in well with the newbs.

[revelarts]

Not that I like Bill Maher but I saw two videos that he ran on his show at some point, the first detailed low-information white voters voting Republican and then, to his credit, another video that detailed low-information black voters voting Democrat. Clueless is limited to no particular party.

I heard this one black Libertarian/republican commentator make the same points FJ just made about voting records.
Poor blacks will vote democrat and poor whites will vote republican at every election and most, if not all, of both groups will still be poor 4 years 8 years after their guy leaves office no matter what economic betterment promises were made.

[jimnyc]

I heard this one black Libertarian/republican commentator make the same points FJ just made about voting records.
Poor blacks will vote democrat and poor whites will vote republican at every election and most, if not all, of both groups will still be poor 4 years 8 years after their guy leaves office no matter what economic betterment promises were made.

Yeap, I believe I've seen that clearly in my lifetime, from both sides as you say. I still believe, for whatever reason, that it's more apparent amongst black voters, at least as of late. I really can't find/see anything that would give solely the black community reason to be elated about the presidency in the last term. Most economical indicators that pertain to blacks have fallen substantially. And although, based on FJ's graph, they have voted Dem for a long, long time, as of very recent the welfare system has skyrocketed. And what are the largest recipients? Most voting blocks that vote Dem.

[mundame]

Black people vote their conscience, just the same as whites and Latinos. .




Naaaaaaah. The blacks all vote for blacks. The stats are very, very clear, all over the country. And they don't care if the candidate is corrupt, crazy, despised in Congress, or facing ethical or criminal charges --- all they care about is whether he's black. Or she.

That's how it is and we can all see that if we look at the situation even a little. Nothing else explains all the black criminals repeatedly voted into office by black voters --- mayors and representatives to Congress.

So I think it's high time liberals quit fussing about how neutral and intellectual whites must-must-must be as a way of shaming them into voting for some black.

[glockmail]

Naaaaaaah. The blacks all vote for blacks. The stats are very, very clear, all over the country. And they don't care if the candidate is corrupt, crazy, despised in Congress, or facing ethical or criminal charges --- all they care about is whether he's black. Or she.

That's how it is and we can all see that if we look at the situation even a little. Nothing else explains all the black criminals repeatedly voted into office by black voters --- mayors and representatives to Congress.

So I think it's high time liberals quit fussing about how neutral and intellectual whites must-must-must be as a way of shaming them into voting for some black.

No they vote for black Democrats. Most inner city blacks HATE guys like Allen West, for example.

[aboutime]

No they vote for black Democrats. Most inner city blacks HATE guys like Allen West, for example.



glockmail. Whenever I see anyone asking this question to explain why so many voted for Obama.

I only have to remember what Forrest Gump's mother told him about 'Stupid is, as Stupid does'. Question answered.

[jimnyc]

No they vote for black Democrats. Most inner city blacks HATE guys like Allen West, for example.

My friend point blank said West AND Love are "Uncle Toms". I asked him why and he said because they work for the rich white corporations and chose money over protecting their race. I left it at that with him and refused to ask anymore.

[fj1200]

My friend point blank said West AND Love are "Uncle Toms". I asked him why and he said because they work for the rich white corporations and chose money over protecting their race. I left it at that with him and refused to ask anymore.

That opens up a whole host of follow-up questions. I doubt they'd stop by here to answer them huh? :laugh:

[jimnyc]

That opens up a whole host of follow-up questions. I doubt they'd stop by here to answer them huh? :laugh:

He also asked me if I watched both political conventions, which I said I did. He said if you looked, when they panned the crowd at the Dem convention, it was filled with blacks, latinos, asians, whites... He said that when they panned the crowd at the Republican convention, all you saw was rich white men. First I asked him if he saw no women at all... then I asked him how he knew the men were all rich. He said because the white man is bought and paid for by republicans. That ended that prior conversation as well.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Or it could be that the older, more conservative Anglo people fail to realize that they have been fooled all these years and are unable to catch up with reality. They keep having these flashbacks to the 60's where they are fighting to keep the Black Panthers from invading their tony neighborhoods and kidnapping their daughters.
Black people vote their conscience, just the same as whites and Latinos. The only people still stuck on racial stereotypes are the older white guys who still hold fond memories of George Wallace and Strom Thurmond.

THANKS, THAT POST LIKE EVERY POST YOU MAKE REVEALS JUST HOW DAMN STUPID YOU ARE.
You just won the stupidest poster of the year award. Congrats, keep the ignorance coming. -Tyr

[mundame]

No they vote for black Democrats. Most inner city blacks HATE guys like Allen West, for example.

Well, I suppose you do have a point there. Okay, they vote for Black Democrats, then, however many police charges they have against them.

[Robert A Whit]

We all know that Obama won on the backs of the dumb.

I listened to that socialist Sanders this AM.

Well, all he did was make me feel like puking.

[aboutime]

THANKS, THAT POST LIKE EVERY POST YOU MAKE REVEALS JUST HOW DAMN STUPID YOU ARE.
You just won the stupidest poster of the year award. Congrats, keep the ignorance coming. -Tyr

Three Liberal Cheers for Gabby. Sometimes, people like gabby really are so stupid. They have no concept of how dumb their stupid comments are. And when any of us remind them. Rather than admit it. They prove it again...still unaware, and perpetually stupid. Thank You Forrest Gump.

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[aboutime]

Every Thinking American who isn't dependent upon government for their monthly FREE RIDE on the backs of other Americans knows....WHY Obama got so many votes.

No need to keep repeating the TRUTH. The Left, Liberal, Democrat, Progressive, Idiots, and Un-educated Obama supporters are NOT SMART ENOUGH to understand, nor admit how easily they were convinced to help Obama drive this nation into Desperate, Destruction by Stupidity.

[red states rule]

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