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Kathianne
11-28-2012, 07:02 PM
Not a doubt in my mind that higher education is a bubble ready to burst. I wrote many posts last year, about how I was impressed by the inroads at the high schools I sub at, to actually have counselors encourage students-high achieving students-to hear the opportunities available at the community college. Granted, it's a superior community college, well funded and with more than the norm of Phd's and full-time faculty.

They weren't directing budding doctors to begin here, not if their grades were in the top 3%, but yes to those that wouldn't be getting full ride scholarships to their first choice universities. Perdue is definitely one of the 'first choice universities' for those wanting to major in engineering:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-14/bureaucrats-paid-250-000-feed-outcry-over-college-costs.html


Bureaucrats Paid $250,000 Feed Outcry Over College Costs
<cite class="byline"> By John Hechinger - Nov 13, 2012

</cite>J. Paul Robinson (http://topics.bloomberg.com/paul-robinson/), chairman of Purdue University (http://topics.bloomberg.com/purdue-university/)’s faculty senate, strode through the halls of a 10- story concrete-and-glass administrative tower.

“I have no idea what these people do,” said Robinson, waving his hand across a row of offices, his voice rising.


The 59-year-old professor of biomedical engineering is leading a faculty revolt against bureaucratic bloat at the public university in Indiana (http://topics.bloomberg.com/indiana/). In the past decade, the number of administrative employees jumped 54 percent, almost eight times the growth of tenured and tenure-track faculty.


Purdue has a $313,000-a-year acting provost and six vice and associate vice provosts, including a $198,000 chief diversity officer. It employs 16 deans and 11 vice presidents (http://www.purdue.edu/datadigest/pages/fastfacts/ff_org_chart.htm), among them a $253,000 marketing officer and a $433,000 business school chief.


Administrative costs on college campuses are soaring, crowding out instruction at a time of skyrocketing tuition and $1 trillion in outstanding student loans (http://topics.bloomberg.com/student-loans/). At Purdue and other U.S. college campuses, bureaucratic growth is pitting professors against administrators and sparking complaints that tight budgets could be spent more efficiently.


“We’re a public university,” Robinson (http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/archive/flowcyt/staffpgs/jpr-bio-photo-jan-2007-1.pdf) said. “We’re here to deliver a high-quality education at as low a price as possible. Why is it that we can’t find any money for more faculty, but there seems to be an almost unlimited budget for administrators?”
‘Administrative Bloat’U.S. universities employed more than 230,000 administrators (http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d11/tables/dt11_257.asp) in 2009, up 60 percent from 1993, or 10 times the rate of growth of the tenured faculty, those with permanent positions and job security (http://topics.bloomberg.com/job-security/), according to U.S. Education Department data.


Spending on administration has been rising faster than funds for instruction and research at 198 leading U.S. research universities, concluded a 2010 study (http://goldwaterinstitute.org/sites/default/files/Administrative%20Bloat.pdf) by Jay Greene, an education professor at the University of Arkansas (http://topics.bloomberg.com/university-of-arkansas/).


“Administrative bloat is clearly contributing to the overall cost of higher education,” Greene said in a telephone interview.

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Public schools have also had the 'explosion in administration costs' that the universities have had, but who's minding that store?

Robert A Whit
11-28-2012, 07:21 PM
Not a doubt in my mind that higher education is a bubble ready to burst. I wrote many posts last year, about how I was impressed by the inroads at the high schools I sub at, to actually have counselors encourage students-high achieving students-to hear the opportunities available at the community college. Granted, it's a superior community college, well funded and with more than the norm of Phd's and full-time faculty.

They weren't directing budding doctors to begin here, not if their grades were in the top 3%, but yes to those that wouldn't be getting full ride scholarships to their first choice universities. Perdue is definitely one of the 'first choice universities' for those wanting to major in engineering:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-14/bureaucrats-paid-250-000-feed-outcry-over-college-costs.html



Public schools have also had the 'explosion in administration costs' that the universities have had, but who's minding that store?

I clearly hit this topic on my own thread the wrong way. The headline gave the impression my goal was to eliminate teachers, yet upon close reading of my posts, we can agree that in sum of substance my major complaint was a lot of money for education was not reaching down to the children.

Universities doing the same thing will meet the same fate and cause people a lot of resentment.

I smell Government money going to universities.

When you earn money, you are more careful. When you get money from the Feds, you can act as if you got a golden well full of cash and of course since it is not their money, they blow it.

And one more thing.

Wny can't K-12 work like universities work?

I saw this proposed on CSPAN yesterday.