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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-14-2012, 10:12 AM
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Texas teaching 'Allah is the Almighty God'

Curriculum under fire for radical ideas, secrecy

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In the 70 percent of Texas public schools where a private curriculum has been installed, students are learning the “fact” that “Allah is the Almighty God,” charge critics of a new online curriculum that already is facing condemnation for its secrecy and restrictions on oversight. (http://www.debatepolicy.com/?p=313349)
The program, called CSCOPE (http://www.cscope.us/faq.html), is a private venture (http://www.tasanet.org/capitol-watch/2012/11/16/highlights-from-the-november-sboe-meeting) operating under the umbrella of the Texas Education Service Center Curriculum Collaborative, whose incorporation documents state its independence from the State Board of Education of the TexasOther reports previously have raised alarm over the curriculum’s depiction (http://educationviews.org/cscope-texas-schools-teach-boston-tea-party-as-act-of-terrorism/) of the Boston Tea Party as a terrorist act on par with the 9/11 attack.
According to documentation that has leaked out, the program describes the Boston Tea Party this way: “A local militia, believed to be a terrorist organization, attacked the property of private citizens today at our nation’s busiest port. Although no one was injured in the attack, a large quantity of merchandise, considered to be valuable to its owners and loathsome to the perpetrators, was destroyed. The terrorists, dressed in disguise and apparently intoxicated, were able to escape into the night with the help of local citizens who harbor these fugitives and conceal their identities from the authorities. It is believed that the terrorist attack was a response to the policies enacted by the occupying country’s government. Even stronger policies are anticipated by the local citizens.”


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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-14-2012, 10:24 AM
Also found this. Consider that this is here and now, not actions taken overseas!!--Tyr

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jafar00
12-14-2012, 06:27 PM
Well, Allah is the One and only Almighty God. There is only one God, unless you have some alternatives?

DragonStryk72
12-14-2012, 06:31 PM
Well, Allah is the One and only Almighty God. There is only one God, unless you have some alternatives?

lol uh, his point is that here, religion is not taught in public schools, not Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Wiccan, Asatru, Buddhism, nothing. Even atheism isn't legally allowed to be taught in schools.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-14-2012, 06:33 PM
Well, Allah is the One and only Almighty God. There is only one God, unless you have some alternatives?

God is God. Islam does not present a loving and merciful God. In my opinion the one they present called -Allah- is false.
The Christian God and the bible are not allowed to be taught in our public schools. Yet this exception is made for Islam-Tyr

aboutime
12-14-2012, 07:13 PM
God is God. Islam does not present a loving and merciful God. In my opinion the one they present called -Allah- is false.
The Christian God and the bible are not allowed to be taught in our public schools. Yet this exception is made for Islam-Tyr


Tyr. Jafar is sounding more, and more like the Comedy version of Obama every time he tries this stuff. Wonder when jafar will ever realize, or understand how...HERE on DP. Jafar is only Impressing Jafar with his stab at comedy???

jafar00
12-15-2012, 02:18 PM
God is God.

Exactly. And what is the Arabic translation for God?

aboutime
12-15-2012, 02:38 PM
Exactly. And what is the Arabic translation for God?


jafar. If all of us agree with you, as to what the name is in Arabic. Why all the hostility, and support of those who use whatever word you choose to use...to destroy, or kill through the obvious Bastardization of that word...you hold so dearly, and claim as More Supreme?

jafar00
12-16-2012, 02:41 AM
jafar. If all of us agree with you, as to what the name is in Arabic. Why all the hostility, and support of those who use whatever word you choose to use...to destroy, or kill through the obvious Bastardization of that word...you hold so dearly, and claim as More Supreme?

I'm not hostile. Do I appear to be?

logroller
12-16-2012, 03:21 AM
The debate carries national significance because of the influence Texas has on textbook and curriculum publishers as the only state that adopts uniform standards....
An estimated 70 percent of Texas schools already are involved in the program.



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So the uniform standards are for 70% of schools or the 30%?
I do believe the materials should be available for review by school boards. Then if problems arise there's a local representative to answer for it. But I understand the copyright issue.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-16-2012, 10:10 AM
Exactly. And what is the Arabic translation for God?

I am not talking about the damn translation of a single word here Jafar. Islam reaches not about a loving and merciful God but rather an intolerant and vengeful one. It denies the divinity of God's son , Jesus Christ. You know this, quit playing word games.
What if people got together and started teaching eating other humans, called it a religion and presented it as the divine will and commands from Allah? What is taught is the issue not the definition of the word. -Tyr

Gaffer
12-16-2012, 10:21 AM
allah was originally the name of the pagan arab moon god.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-16-2012, 10:44 AM
allah was originally the name of the pagan arab moon god.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/skm30804.htm


By Syed Kamran Mirza (http://www.faithfreedom.org/Author/SKM.htm)

Historical evidences, impartial logic, well versed references and all available circumstantial judgments can very well prove that—(a) Allah name of deity was pre-existed much before the arrival of Islam, (b) Pre-Islamic Pagan peoples worshipped Allah as their supreme deity (moon-god). Allah’s name existed in pre-Islamic Arab. In ancient Arab the Allah was considered to be the supreme God/deity (as Moon-God) and Arab Pagans worshipped Allah before Islam arrived.

Let us examine below some valid questions and answers :
Did the Pagan Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes
Did the pagans Arabs worship the sun, moon and the stars? Yes
Did the Arabs built temples to the Moon-god? Yes
Did different Arab tribes give the Moon-god different names/titles? Yes
What were some of the names/titles? Sin, Hubul, Ilumquh, Al-ilah.
Was the title “al-ilah” (the god) used as the Moon-god? Yes
Was the word “Allah” derived from “al-ilah?” Yes
Was the pagan “Allah” a high god in a pantheon of deities? Yes.
Was he worshipped at the Kabah? Yes.
Was Allah only one of many Meccan gods? Yes
Did they place a statue of Hubul on top of the Kabah? Yes.
At that time was Hubul considered the Moon-god? Yes.
Was the Kabah thus the “house of the Moon-god”? Yes.
Did the name “Allah” eventually replace that of Hubul as the name of the Moon god? Yes.
Did they call the Kabah the “house of Allah”? Yes.
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Even the name goes back to a pagan God. Everything about the religion is false . -Tyr

cadet
12-16-2012, 11:28 AM
jafar. If all of us agree with you, as to what the name is in Arabic. Why all the hostility, and support of those who use whatever word you choose to use...to destroy, or kill through the obvious Bastardization of that word...you hold so dearly, and claim as More Supreme?

Hossana,
The Great I Am,
God,
Allah,
God the high
Exalted one,
Theos,
πατέρας,
How many more names of the same guy do we have in the bible?


The whole point, IMOP, is that they're trying to show that Christianity is bashed way to often. And every religion should be held equally. If you go to "religious tolerance" teaching classes, you'll find that teachers tolerate every single possible thing except Christianity.
This is just an interesting way to put it into perspective.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-16-2012, 12:38 PM
Hossana,
The Great I Am,
God,
Allah,
God the high
Exalted one,
Theos,
πατέρας,
How many more names of the same guy do we have in the bible?


The whole point, IMOP, is that they're trying to show that Christianity is bashed way to often. And every religion should be held equally. If you go to "religious tolerance" teaching classes, you'll find that teachers tolerate every single possible thing except Christianity.
This is just an interesting way to put it into perspective.

Yes, thats a method of attack, preaching only Christianity is wrong, is to be feared and fought. Its actually the united and organised effort of leftists,atheists and Islamists assaulting the Christian religion and claiming tolerance while they do so !! -Tyr

jafar00
12-16-2012, 07:54 PM
I am not talking about the damn translation of a single word here Jafar. Islam reaches not about a loving and merciful God but rather an intolerant and vengeful one. It denies the divinity of God's son , Jesus Christ. You know this, quit playing word games.
What if people got together and started teaching eating other humans, called it a religion and presented it as the divine will and commands from Allah? What is taught is the issue not the definition of the word. -Tyr

Christianity doesn't teach that God is just loving and merciful but also that He punishes wrongdoers. If you believe that God's only attributes (Islam teaches 99 of them) are Loving and Merciful you are living in a fantasy, although every day, when Muslims pray, we refer to God's attributes "The Compassionate", and the "All Merciful" in every prayer (الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ)

As for Jesus (upon him peace), calling him God's son is belittling God by suggesting that he begat a son and that He needs partners. Jesus (upon him peace) was one of God's most beloved Prophets. To give him divinity is contradictory to his life of sacrifice as one of God's most trusted and devoted servants.


allah was originally the name of the pagan arab moon god.


http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/skm30804.htm


By Syed Kamran Mirza (http://www.faithfreedom.org/Author/SKM.htm)

Historical evidences, impartial logic, well versed references and all available circumstantial judgments can very well prove that—(a) Allah name of deity was pre-existed much before the arrival of Islam, (b) Pre-Islamic Pagan peoples worshipped Allah as their supreme deity (moon-god). Allah’s name existed in pre-Islamic Arab. In ancient Arab the Allah was considered to be the supreme God/deity (as Moon-God) and Arab Pagans worshipped Allah before Islam arrived.

Let us examine below some valid questions and answers :
Did the Pagan Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes
Did the pagans Arabs worship the sun, moon and the stars? Yes
Did the Arabs built temples to the Moon-god? Yes
Did different Arab tribes give the Moon-god different names/titles? Yes
What were some of the names/titles? Sin, Hubul, Ilumquh, Al-ilah.
Was the title “al-ilah” (the god) used as the Moon-god? Yes
Was the word “Allah” derived from “al-ilah?” Yes
Was the pagan “Allah” a high god in a pantheon of deities? Yes.
Was he worshipped at the Kabah? Yes.
Was Allah only one of many Meccan gods? Yes
Did they place a statue of Hubul on top of the Kabah? Yes.
At that time was Hubul considered the Moon-god? Yes.
Was the Kabah thus the “house of the Moon-god”? Yes.
Did the name “Allah” eventually replace that of Hubul as the name of the Moon god? Yes.
Did they call the Kabah the “house of Allah”? Yes.
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Even the name goes back to a pagan God. Everything about the religion is false . -Tyr

That's a ridiculous myth. Where did that idea come from? Muslims do not and have never worshiped anything but God alone.

tailfins
12-16-2012, 08:16 PM
Well, Allah is the One and only Almighty God. There is only one God, unless you have some alternatives?

The REAL God: Jehovah, the one that sent Jesus Christ.

Remember: YOU started it!

aboutime
12-16-2012, 08:20 PM
The REAL God: Jehovah, the one that sent Jesus Christ.

Remember: YOU started it!


Poor jafar. Honestly so mentally, and morally bankrupt. Nothing jafar says has any meanings to anyone but...jafar.

Maybe someday. Someone will find the remedy, or cure for Hatred Brainwashing that erodes, and corrodes the hate filled minds who always insist ONLY THEY are right, and everyone else should be DEAD.

jafar00
12-16-2012, 09:28 PM
The REAL God: Jehovah, the one that sent Jesus Christ.

Remember: YOU started it!

God, Allah, YHWH, Jehovah, Dieu, Gott, бог, Dios, 神, Chúa, θεός
Whatever your language, He is called different names, but all refer to the same All Powerful, All Knowing God.

And I agree with you. He who created Jesus (as) by a word and that word was "Be" and sent him as a messenger to the world.