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Little-Acorn
01-02-2013, 01:02 PM
Taxes on Capital Gains are also going up, from the old rate of 15% to a new rate of $23.8%, including a new Obamacare tax on such gains.

Nice job, Democrats and RINOs. You fooled them again. Most people thought their taxes wouldn't go up, that only "the rich" would get stuck.

Suckers.

Elections have consequences.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-01/senate-passed-deal-means-higher-tax-on-77-of-households.html

Fiscal Cliff Deal Means Higher Tax on 77% of Households

by Richard Rubin - Jan 1, 2013 10:54 AM PT.

The budget deal passed by the U.S. Senate today would raise taxes on 77.1 percent of U.S. households, mostly because of the expiration of a payroll tax cut, according to preliminary estimates from the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center in Washington.

More than 80 percent of households with incomes between $50,000 and $200,000 would pay higher taxes. Among the households facing higher taxes, the average increase would be $1,635, the policy center said. A 2 percent payroll tax cut, enacted during the economic slowdown, is being allowed to expire as of yesterday.

The heaviest new burdens in 2013, compared with 2012, would fall on top earners, who would face higher rates on income, capital gains, dividends and estates. The top 1 percent of taxpayers, or those with incomes over $506,210, would pay an average of $73,633 more in taxes.

Much of that burden is concentrated at the very top of the income scale.

The top 0.1 percent of taxpayers, those with incomes over about $2.7 million, would pay an average of $443,910 more, reducing their after-tax incomes by 8.4 percent. They would pay 26 percent of the additional taxes imposed by the legislation.

Among households with incomes between $500,000 and $1 million, taxes would go up by an average of $14,812.

The bill, being discussed by House members today, would raise the top tax rate to 39.6 percent from 35 percent last year, starting with income over $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for married couples.

The top tax rates on capital gains and dividends would go up to 23.8 percent, from 15 percent last year. The new rate includes a 3.8 percent tax from the 2010 health-care law that took effect today.

The Tax Policy Center’s definition of income is a gross measure that includes items such as the employer’s share of payroll taxes, making it larger for many households than the adjusted gross income shown on tax returns.

tailfins
01-02-2013, 01:06 PM
Taxes on Capital Gains are also going up, from the old rate of 15% to a new rate of $23.8%, including a new Obamacare tax on such gains.

Nice job, Democrats and RINOs. You fooled them again. Most people thought their taxes wouldn't go up, that only "the rich" would get stuck.

Suckers.

Elections have consequences.

Most of the people affected are because Obama will stop diverting money from Social Security contributions. That 77% is crap from the likes of a fundraising letter. Let us not distract ourselves from where the REAL damage will occur: On the job market.

Little-Acorn
01-02-2013, 01:22 PM
Most of the people affected are because Obama will stop diverting money from Social Security contributions.
Got any evidence to back this up?

Or did you just make it up in hopes you could fool even more suckers?


That 77% is crap from the likes of a fundraising letter.
TRANSLATION: I can't refute it, so I'll call it names and hope I can fool even more suckers into believing me.


Let us not distract ourselves from where the REAL damage will occur: On the job market.
Correct. Among other areas.

fj1200
01-02-2013, 01:59 PM
Got any evidence to back this up?

Umm, your story.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-01/senate-passed-deal-means-higher-tax-on-77-of-households.html

The budget deal passed by the U.S. Senate today would raise taxes on 77.1 percent of U.S. households, mostly because of the expiration of a payroll tax cut, according to preliminary estimates from the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center in Washington.

That was a pointless bit of stimulus anyway.

Thunderknuckles
01-02-2013, 02:02 PM
Most people thought their taxes wouldn't go up, that only "the rich" would get stuck.
Yep, I think most people didn't care because only the rich would be affected. That was Obama's marketing winning the day. How many times did he say the rich need to pay their fair share? Too many times to count and folks bought it as the sole consequence. Then this happens:
"A 2 percent payroll tax cut, enacted during the economic slowdown, is being allowed to expire as of yesterday."

So basically every working American's taxes are increasing.

aboutime
01-02-2013, 02:06 PM
Yep, I think most people didn't care because only the rich would be affected. That was Obama's marketing winning the day. How many times did he say the rich need to pay their fair share? Too many times to count and folks bought it as the sole consequence. Then this happens:
"A 2 percent payroll tax cut, enacted during the economic slowdown, is being allowed to expire as of yesterday."

So basically every working American's taxes are increasing.


Sad to say. Every Selfish American who voted for Obama, and those Members of Congress who voted for that bill yesterday. Are all about to learn....FIRST HAND. How Obama managed to fool them, lie to them, and convince them he was their SAVIOR.
Just wait till the BUYERS REMORSE sets in. The Buyers Remorse they (those who voted for Obama) will remind them how HE promised all of them "YOUR TAXES WILL NOT GO UP A DIME!"
Come to think of it. That really wasn't a Lie. He just didn't say a number higher than TEN CENTS.

tailfins
01-02-2013, 02:08 PM
Got any evidence to back this up?

Or did you just make it up in hopes you could fool even more suckers?


TRANSLATION: I can't refute it, so I'll call it names and hope I can fool even more suckers into believing me.


Correct. Among other areas.

Evidence? Look at a paycheck from last month, then look at one this month. If your employer is doing it correctly, the SS tax will go from 4.2% to 6.2%. You can also look up IRS withholding guidelines.

aboutime
01-02-2013, 02:16 PM
Evidence? Look at a paycheck from last month, then look at one this month. If your employer is doing it correctly, the SS tax will go from 4.2% to 6.2%. You can also look up IRS withholding guidelines.


Little-Acorn. A great source is about to hit all of us. The MSM who supports Obama refuses to admit HE(Obama) is proudly waving his victory flag. Getting the Increased taxes for 77% of Americans. Much to the future surprise of everyone who voted for him, thinking he was GONNA STICK IT TO THE RICH.

Surprise is. While Obama plays in Hawaii. His friends, and loving supporters are getting it STUCK TO THEM...4221

And Obama will just laugh, and call it.....4222 SAFE SEX???? Obama Loves You!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bigger-tax-bite-most-under-223507601.html