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taft2012
01-17-2013, 07:08 AM
I saw this break yesterday on Google News and figured it would explode as a news story. Apparently not. Apparently Obama's semi-independent political propaganda machine was not authorized to cover any distractions from his efforts to erase rights from the US Constitution.

The NY Times headline:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/world/africa/algeria-militants-hostages.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0



Standoff Develops After Militants Seize Hostages in Algeria


And a reader needed to scroll all the way down to the 15th paragraph (!!!!!!!!) to learn that Americans were taken hostage:




The statement, made by a group called Al Mulathameen, which has links to Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the North African affiliate of Al Qaeda, claimed it was holding more than 40 “crusaders” — apparently a reference to non-Muslims — “including seven Americans, two French, two British as well as other citizens of various European nationalities.” Algeria’s interior minister, Daho Ould Kablia, said that the raid was overseen by Mokhtar Belmokhtar, an Algerian who fought Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the 1980s and has reportedly established his own group in in the Sahara after falling out with other local Qaeda leaders.

Welcome to Animal Farm, my friends.

CSM
01-17-2013, 08:55 AM
Good thing the hostages weren't armed or somebody might have gotten hurt .... oh, wait a minute ....

Well, I am sure the militants thought the hostages were an occupying force or at least members of the satanic US military so attacking and capturing them is justified. I mean, obviously, there is no economic gain for the captors in doing this so their cause MUST be noble .... right?

glockmail
01-17-2013, 09:53 AM
I'm so glad a republican isn't president because if so this hostage taking would be clearly his fault.

jafar00
01-17-2013, 05:10 PM
So why don't you send in some Marines to free them? Oh... it's only Africa.

red states rule
01-17-2013, 05:11 PM
So why don't you send in some Marines to free them? Oh... it's only Africa.

Be careful what you wish for http://i.imgur.com/3DKZY.jpg

aboutime
01-17-2013, 05:12 PM
Not to worry. ALL of the hostages will be freed by Obama's 2nd Inaugural because he will invite them to attend

to show off how STRONG he thinks he is to the rest of the BLIND, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST world.

red states rule
01-17-2013, 05:13 PM
Not to worry. ALL of the hostages will be freed by Obama's 2nd Inaugural because he will invite them to attend

to show off how STRONG he thinks he is to the rest of the BLIND, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST world.

and if the rescue is as successful as Carter's Iran rescue, it will be all Bush's fault

jimnyc
01-17-2013, 05:15 PM
So why don't you send in some Marines to free them? Oh... it's only Africa.

Maybe because the forces there in Africa screwed up and barged in and got a bunch of people killed. The Americans, or Marines, really had no time to do anything but be a bystander, as it all unfolded so quickly. Also, being that Americans donate probably about 95% of all the aid going to Africa, and other poor nations stricken with pretty much anything, catastrophe or simply being poor.

But your anti-Americanism is duly noted! :salute:

red states rule
01-17-2013, 05:16 PM
Maybe because the forces there in Africa screwed up and barged in and got a bunch of people killed. The Americans, or Marines, really had no time to do anything but be a bystander, as it all unfolded so quickly. Also, being that Americans donate probably about 95% of all the aid going to Africa, and other poor nations stricken with pretty much anything, catastrophe or simply being poor.

But your anti-Americanism is duly noted! :salute:

http://www.bibleprobe.com/osama-beard.jpg

aboutime
01-17-2013, 05:22 PM
So why don't you send in some Marines to free them? Oh... it's only Africa.


jafar. Funny you should ask. But you know better than anyone else here on this forum. Your Messiah, Pretend President Obama has downsized the U.S. Military so much, so far, and into the future....He would never send the Marines to free them.

Instead. Just as You, and other Anti-American losers demand. Obama would rather send a contingent of NEW BLACK PATHERS over there to show how Receptive, and Full of Appeasement Obama really is before Kissing and Bowing to his Favorite Enemy representatives like YOU. 4330

jafar00
01-17-2013, 09:51 PM
Be careful what you wish for http://i.imgur.com/3DKZY.jpg

The Algerians would likely welcome that. They have been having trouble with Salafi groups for years.

tailfins
01-17-2013, 10:30 PM
The Algerians would likely welcome that. They have been having trouble with Salafi groups for years.

One well-placed hydrogen bomb would reduce that trouble dramatically.

aboutime
01-17-2013, 10:55 PM
One well-placed hydrogen bomb would reduce that trouble dramatically.


And Walmart is expanding around the World. Needing larger parking lots, just before being Greeted...
4350

Kathianne
01-17-2013, 11:10 PM
So why don't you send in some Marines to free them? Oh... it's only Africa.

Patton. Whoops, he's not around anymore and winning isn't acceptable anymore. Jafur, you're right. We could win, but that's wrong.

red states rule
01-18-2013, 02:21 AM
Patton. Whoops, he's not around anymore and winning isn't acceptable anymore. Jafur, you're right. We could win, but that's wrong.

Gen Patton speaking on the war on terror
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5Lkcw7NCA

Drummond
01-18-2013, 03:19 AM
So why don't you send in some Marines to free them? Oh... it's only Africa.

British hostages were / are caught up in this as well, so this is dominating British news media as well, probably to the same degree as will be true in the US.

For your information, Jafar, the news we have is that the Algerians rushed in to deal with the crisis THEMSELVES, not wanting outside advice or help. So, given this ... your gratuitous anti-American jibe is looking especially cheap this morning .. bought, as it doubtless is, on the backs of lives which we all, now, expect to have been lost.

British reaction to the Algerian move, apparently, was that we were appalled that Algerian authorities had acted unilaterally. If nothing else, it was felt, we could have advised them from our own fairly extensive experience. The Algerian action to resolve this crisis is looking especially reckless.

David Cameron was due to give a pivotal speech, today, on Britain's future in Europe (.. as it was billed). News we're getting says he's postponed that, cleared his schedule for today, and we're told to stand by for some expected 'very bad news'.

red states rule
01-18-2013, 03:31 AM
What do you say to a Muslim woman with two black eyes? Nothing! You told her twice already!

taft2012
01-18-2013, 06:43 AM
British hostages were / are caught up in this as well, so this is dominating British news media as well, probably to the same degree as will be true in the US.

Coverage has picked up significantly, however as I pointed out in the OP; the initial effort was an attempt to bury the story completely.

KarlMarx
01-18-2013, 07:03 AM
The Jimmy Carter Presidency Take 2...

In this scene, the hostage situation will be drawn out for a year or more while an indecisive President hides in the White House Rose Garden then send in a drone to rescue them!

KarlMarx
01-18-2013, 07:12 AM
So why don't you send in some Marines to free them? Oh... it's only Africa.

Never heard the lyrics to the Marine Anthem?
<dd style="line-height: 19.1875px; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif;">From the Halls of Montezuma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chapultepec),</dd><dd style="line-height: 19.1875px; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif;">To the shores of Tripoli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War);</dd><dd style="line-height: 19.1875px; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif;">We fight our country's battles</dd><dd style="line-height: 19.1875px; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif;">In the air, on land, and sea;</dd><dd style="line-height: 19.1875px; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif;">First to fight for right and freedom</dd><dd style="line-height: 19.1875px; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif;">And to keep our honor clean:</dd><dd style="line-height: 19.1875px; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif;">We are proud to claim the title</dd><dd style="line-height: 19.1875px; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif;">Of United States Marine.

That reference to Tripoli... President Jefferson dispatched the Marines to Tripoli back 1805 to battle Berber pirates... who were involved in slave trade among other things (slavery in Africa and no white folks involved what would the Reverend Al Sharpton say?!?!??!)</dd>

Drummond
01-18-2013, 08:53 AM
Coverage has picked up significantly, however as I pointed out in the OP; the initial effort was an attempt to bury the story completely.

.. I see ! Utterly incredible that this would happen. Over here, it's been known that stories can / will be buried (or propaganda spins be attempted, as the BBC perpetrated for months over the Libya conflict against Gaddafi, for example) ... but this sort of story NEVER would be.

Looks like the US's version of Leftie is prepared to go even further than our lot would. Disgusting.

I can only suggest that Americans make a point of checking out our media as well as yours, in the hope of getting more complete news .. I recommend Sky News, the Daily Mail, Daily Telegraph, Daily Express sources.

Any Leftie looking for pro-Leftie vitriol (Piers Morgan is an ex-editor of this newspaper, which some will find instructive in itself ..) could go to the Leftie tabloid rag called the Daily Mirror.

Drummond
01-18-2013, 09:04 AM
Here's one account, courtesy of the Daily Mail ..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2264166/Algeria-hostage-crisis-20-Britons-killed-injured-bloody-Sahara-gas-plant-battle-Al-Qaeda-STILL-going-on.html


Up to 12 British citizens are feared dead or injured after a botched rescue attempt at a BP compound in Algeria where they were being held by Al Qaeda terrorists.

David Cameron said 'less than 30' British workers are unaccounted for as he gave terrifying details of the 'ongoing' hostage crisis in the Saharan desert. It is now understood that 12 Britons are among the casualties.

In an extraordinary development, Algeria today refused repeated offers of help to bring its worst terror attack on Westerners under control. But the Prime Minister is to send specialist Met Police negotiators and SAS forces to the capital city Algiers in the hope Britain can step in.

Norway, which also has citizens caught up in the crisis, will be sending its own special forces to the BP plant, regardless of whether the Algerians agree to it, as the situation could continue for days, sources say.

In a statement to MPs the Prime Minister blasted the Algerian government for staging the secret 'all guns blazing' rescue mission despite offers of SAS help and his demands to be told of any operation that could put British lives at risk.

'We were disappointed not to be informed of this in advance... this is a large and complex site and they are still pursuing terrorists and possibly some of the hostages in other areas of the site,' he said.

‘I offered UK technical and intelligence support – including from experts in hostage negotiation and rescue - to help find a successful resolution. And I urged that we and other countries affected should be consulted before any action was taken.

'We will continue to do everything we can to hunt the people down who are responsible for this and for other such terrorist outrages'.

In the worst terror attack on Britons since 7/7, the UK has been plunged into a diplomatic crisis when at least 30 hostages were killed in the Sahara Desert, with at least two Britons among the dead after Algerian troops attacked their captors.

Algerian sources said this afternoon 573 of total 650 hostages now free, including 77 of 132 foreign nationals, meaning the whereabouts of 55 foreigners are still unknown.