Student opens fire at middle school, one wounded before armed adult disarms shooter

[Little-Acorn]

At a middle school in Atlanta, GA, a student opened fire with a gun. But instead of 20 or more children being killed as happened in Newtown, CT, this time no one was killed and only one injured. The injured boy was expected to be released from the hospital the same day.

The difference? An adult carrying a gun, who the story says was off-duty but happened to be there, quickly disarmed the shooter. The story doesn't say whether the adult was carrying openly, or concealing his gun as most carriers do.

At long last, we have stumbled upon a way to keep massive school shootings from claiming dozens of lives.

The solution isn't perfect, of course. The kid still managed to open fire, and one student was injured. Thankfully, that one student will recover. But this is a far better outcome than what we have seen at Newtown, in the Wisconsin Sikh temple, at the Aurora theater, etc.

After so many gun bans, waiting periods, "gun free" zones etc. that have spectacularly failed, it's a welcome relief to finally find something that has, at least this time, stopped a shooting: A good guy with a gun happened to be there.

Since our politicians have been doing so much talking about wanting to reduce these terrible mass shootings, when can we expect them to legislate rules saying that responsible adults are now allowed to carry their weapons at schools? And how about at religious temples, theaters, political rallies... come to think of it, how about anywhere?

This idea appears to have a MUCH better track record thatn everything else the politicians have tried. And it stands to reason that most law-abiding adults are mature and responsible enough to carry weapons, since law-abiding adults have a stellar record for NOT doing silly things with guns, compared to virtually every other group.

Considering that pretty much every other scheme has failed and mass shootings have gone on unimpeded while they were in force, is there ANY reason not to try this one instead?

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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/55742445-68/shooting-atlanta-police-says.html.csp

Armed guard disarmed teen in Atlanta school shooting, says police chief

By KATE BRUMBACK
The Associated Press

First Published Jan 31 2013 12:58 pm • Updated 1 minute ago

Atlanta • A student opened fire at his middle school Thursday afternoon, wounding a 14-year-old in the neck before an armed officer working at the school was able to get the gun away, police said.

Multiple shots were fired in the courtyard of Price Middle School just south of downtown around 1:50 p.m. and the one boy was hit, Atlanta Police Chief George Turner said. In the aftermath, a teacher received minor cuts, he said.

The wounded boy was taken "alert, conscious and breathing" to Grady Memorial Hospital, said police spokesman Carlos Campos. He was expected to be released Thursday night.

Police swarmed the school of about 400 students after reports of the shooting while a crowd of anxious parents gathered in the streets, awaiting word on their children. Students were kept at the locked-down school for more than two hours before being dismissed.

Investigators believe the shooting was not random and that something occurred between the two students that may have led to it.

Schools Superintendent Erroll Davis said the school does have metal detectors.

"The obvious question is how did this get past a metal detector?" Davis asked about the gun. "That’s something we do not know yet."

The armed resource officer who took the gun away was off-duty and at the school, but police didn’t release details on him or whether he is regularly at Price. Since 20 children and six adults were shot to death at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut in December, calls for armed officers in every school have resonated across the country.

Hours after the Atlanta shooting, several school buses loaded with children pulled away from the school and stopped in front of a church about a half-block away. Parents tried boarding the buses. Police who initially tried to stop the parents, relented and screamed, "Let them off!" about the students.

James Bolton was at work when his sister called saying a teen had been shot at his son’s school and was in the crowd as parents began swarming the fleet of buses.

[jimnyc]

** will be ignored by liberals and gun control nuts <---same thing, I suppose **

[bingster]

At a middle school in Atlanta, GA, a student opened fire with a gun. But instead of 20 or more children being killed as happened in Newtown, CT, this time no one was killed and only one injured. The injured boy was expected to be released from the hospital the same day.

The difference? An adult carrying a gun, who the story says was off-duty but happened to be there, quickly disarmed the shooter. The story doesn't say whether the adult was carrying openly, or concealing his gun as most carriers do.

At long last, we have stumbled upon a way to keep massive school shootings from claiming dozens of lives.

The solution isn't perfect, of course. The kid still managed to open fire, and one student was injured. Thankfully, that one student will recover. But this is a far better outcome than what we have seen at Newtown, in the Wisconsin Sikh temple, at the Aurora theater, etc.

After so many gun bans, waiting periods, "gun free" zones etc. that have spectacularly failed, it's a welcome relief to finally find something that has, at least this time, stopped a shooting: A good guy with a gun happened to be there.

Since our politicians have been doing so much talking about wanting to reduce these terrible mass shootings, when can we expect them to legislate rules saying that responsible adults are now allowed to carry their weapons at schools? And how about at religious temples, theaters, political rallies... come to think of it, how about anywhere?

This idea appears to have a MUCH better track record thatn everything else the politicians have tried. And it stands to reason that most law-abiding adults are mature and responsible enough to carry weapons, since law-abiding adults have a stellar record for NOT doing silly things with guns, compared to virtually every other group.

Considering that pretty much every other scheme has failed and mass shootings have gone on unimpeded while they were in force, is there ANY reason not to try this one instead?

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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/55742445-68/shooting-atlanta-police-says.html.csp

Armed guard disarmed teen in Atlanta school shooting, says police chief

By KATE BRUMBACK
The Associated Press

First Published Jan 31 2013 12:58 pm • Updated 1 minute ago

Atlanta • A student opened fire at his middle school Thursday afternoon, wounding a 14-year-old in the neck before an armed officer working at the school was able to get the gun away, police said.

Multiple shots were fired in the courtyard of Price Middle School just south of downtown around 1:50 p.m. and the one boy was hit, Atlanta Police Chief George Turner said. In the aftermath, a teacher received minor cuts, he said.

The wounded boy was taken "alert, conscious and breathing" to Grady Memorial Hospital, said police spokesman Carlos Campos. He was expected to be released Thursday night.

Police swarmed the school of about 400 students after reports of the shooting while a crowd of anxious parents gathered in the streets, awaiting word on their children. Students were kept at the locked-down school for more than two hours before being dismissed.

Investigators believe the shooting was not random and that something occurred between the two students that may have led to it.

Schools Superintendent Erroll Davis said the school does have metal detectors.

"The obvious question is how did this get past a metal detector?" Davis asked about the gun. "That’s something we do not know yet."

The armed resource officer who took the gun away was off-duty and at the school, but police didn’t release details on him or whether he is regularly at Price. Since 20 children and six adults were shot to death at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut in December, calls for armed officers in every school have resonated across the country.

Hours after the Atlanta shooting, several school buses loaded with children pulled away from the school and stopped in front of a church about a half-block away. Parents tried boarding the buses. Police who initially tried to stop the parents, relented and screamed, "Let them off!" about the students.

James Bolton was at work when his sister called saying a teen had been shot at his son’s school and was in the crowd as parents began swarming the fleet of buses.

Good job, you found 2!

[bingster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQtxsFSo5xM&feature=player_embedded

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

At a middle school in Atlanta, GA, a student opened fire with a gun. But instead of 20 or more children being killed as happened in Newtown, CT, this time no one was killed and only one injured. The injured boy was expected to be released from the hospital the same day.

The difference? An adult carrying a gun, who the story says was off-duty but happened to be there, quickly disarmed the shooter. The story doesn't say whether the adult was carrying openly, or concealing his gun as most carriers do.

At long last, we have stumbled upon a way to keep massive school shootings from claiming dozens of lives.

The solution isn't perfect, of course. The kid still managed to open fire, and one student was injured. Thankfully, that one student will recover. But this is a far better outcome than what we have seen at Newtown, in the Wisconsin Sikh temple, at the Aurora theater, etc.

After so many gun bans, waiting periods, "gun free" zones etc. that have spectacularly failed, it's a welcome relief to finally find something that has, at least this time, stopped a shooting: A good guy with a gun happened to be there.

Since our politicians have been doing so much talking about wanting to reduce these terrible mass shootings, when can we expect them to legislate rules saying that responsible adults are now allowed to carry their weapons at schools? And how about at religious temples, theaters, political rallies... come to think of it, how about anywhere?

This idea appears to have a MUCH better track record thatn everything else the politicians have tried. And it stands to reason that most law-abiding adults are mature and responsible enough to carry weapons, since law-abiding adults have a stellar record for NOT doing silly things with guns, compared to virtually every other group.

Considering that pretty much every other scheme has failed and mass shootings have gone on unimpeded while they were in force, is there ANY reason not to try this one instead?

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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/55742445-68/shooting-atlanta-police-says.html.csp

Armed guard disarmed teen in Atlanta school shooting, says police chief

By KATE BRUMBACK
The Associated Press

First Published Jan 31 2013 12:58 pm • Updated 1 minute ago

Atlanta • A student opened fire at his middle school Thursday afternoon, wounding a 14-year-old in the neck before an armed officer working at the school was able to get the gun away, police said.

Multiple shots were fired in the courtyard of Price Middle School just south of downtown around 1:50 p.m. and the one boy was hit, Atlanta Police Chief George Turner said. In the aftermath, a teacher received minor cuts, he said.

The wounded boy was taken "alert, conscious and breathing" to Grady Memorial Hospital, said police spokesman Carlos Campos. He was expected to be released Thursday night.

Police swarmed the school of about 400 students after reports of the shooting while a crowd of anxious parents gathered in the streets, awaiting word on their children. Students were kept at the locked-down school for more than two hours before being dismissed.

Investigators believe the shooting was not random and that something occurred between the two students that may have led to it.

Schools Superintendent Erroll Davis said the school does have metal detectors.

"The obvious question is how did this get past a metal detector?" Davis asked about the gun. "That’s something we do not know yet."

The armed resource officer who took the gun away was off-duty and at the school, but police didn’t release details on him or whether he is regularly at Price. Since 20 children and six adults were shot to death at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut in December, calls for armed officers in every school have resonated across the country.

Hours after the Atlanta shooting, several school buses loaded with children pulled away from the school and stopped in front of a church about a half-block away. Parents tried boarding the buses. Police who initially tried to stop the parents, relented and screamed, "Let them off!" about the students.

James Bolton was at work when his sister called saying a teen had been shot at his son’s school and was in the crowd as parents began swarming the fleet of buses.

No obama comment on it because he --was stopped by an armed guard and did not get to murder many kids!!

Where is obama praising this act, this armed guard!??

obama isnt about to praise the correct action and highlight what really needs to be done..ffing hypocrite.

[Marcus Aurelius]

this needs to be a major media story. He needs a medal, a parade, a new car, whatever, and to be lauded for stopping another potential Sandy Hook.

Of course, Obama will ignore him.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Good job, you found 2!

this man prevented another Sandy Hook, and you can sound that condescending? Like 2 times an armed person prevented a massacre means nothing?

Pathetic.

[Marcus Aurelius]

http://www.newser.com/story/162036/armed-officer-disarmed-atlanta-school-shooter.html


Also of note: Police say an armed school resource officer—of the type the NRA is pushing (http://www.newser.com/story/159733/nra-we-need-armed-guards-in-every-school.html)—disarmed the suspect minutes after the shooting, though he happened to be off-duty at the time, reports AP (http://www.newser.com/article/da45gg481/teen-shot-at-atlanta-middle-school-fellow-student-a-suspect-other-students-safe.html).
Starting to see a few sources use phrasing like this.

NRA needs to make a big deal of this.

[Little-Acorn]

"The obvious question is how did this get past a metal detector?" Davis asked about the gun. "That’s something we do not know yet."


The obvious question is, if armed adults can stop school shootings like this, why haven't we had armed adults in or near our schools for years?

[Marcus Aurelius]

a few reports have this happening outside in the courtyard, thus, no metal detectors.

[jimnyc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQtxsFSo5xM&feature=player_embedded

And he said for the exception of law enforcement and those who have had training. He's stating what most state - that schools should have an armed guard or similar, someone with training, and a gun, top keep schools safe. But even if he did state what you think, back then, changing his mind in light of criminal activity in schools - why would that be bad?

[Marcus Aurelius]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQtxsFSo5xM&feature=player_embedded

start at the 20 second mark.

[Marcus Aurelius]

And he said for the exception of law enforcement and those who have had training. He's stating what most state - that schools should have an armed guard or similar, someone with training, and a gun, top keep schools safe. But even if he did state what you think, back then, changing his mind in light of criminal activity in schools - why would that be bad?

Binggy-boo must have skipped that part of his own clip :laugh:

[DragonStryk72]

I think that most gun control advocates approach the issue of armed adults near children from the perspective of fear. The fear that, however small the chance, someone might walk in and just start shooting if allowed to have weapons on them.

If they really took some time at the thought, though, I think they would see that guns only improve the safety. As has been shown by every study under the sun on the subject, 99% of gun owners are law-abiding and thus, are not a threat.

Well, what about the 1%? Well, when they seek to perpetrate their crimes, the first they do, consciously or not, is to look for soft targets that can not resist them. Sad as that is, it is true of every shooter, whether insane or not. When you have a more well-armed populace, the number of soft targets shrink, and criminals are less likely to commit their crimes, without a shot being fired or a gun being drawn.

[bingster]

And he said for the exception of law enforcement and those who have had training. He's stating what most state - that schools should have an armed guard or similar, someone with training, and a gun, top keep schools safe. But even if he did state what you think, back then, changing his mind in light of criminal activity in schools - why would that be bad?

What's really dumb about this argument is that in one of Obama's executive order it to commit more money and attention to putting more officers into the schools. The outrage over Obama is when he said that he was "reluctant" to agree that this was the only answer. He's never been against any of anybody's ideas on this issue.

[bingster]

Binggy-boo must have skipped that part of his own clip :laugh:

It does, though, fly in the face of the "arm the teachers" crowd and it contradicts what he says today about the schools are a "soft target" because they are gun free zones.

[jimnyc]

What's really dumb about this argument is that in one of Obama's executive order it to commit more money and attention to putting more officers into the schools. The outrage over Obama is when he said that he was "reluctant" to agree that this was the only answer. He's never been against any of anybody's ideas on this issue.

So Obama has stated - what LaPierre stated, which is what many of us have stated? I never even mentioned Obama, I was simply pointing out that LaPierre wasn't AGAINST guns in school as you thought when you first posted the video.

[Robert A Whit]

What's really dumb about this argument is that in one of Obama's executive order it to commit more money and attention to putting more officers into the schools. The outrage over Obama is when he said that he was "reluctant" to agree that this was the only answer. He's never been against any of anybody's ideas on this issue.

Maybe that is why Obama has not so much as signed one budget into law since he became ruler in chief.

He actually thinks he can just spend money any which way he chooses.

Some others were dealing with this topic very well and I hoped to simply read along. But that takes the cake in my book.

Obama was picked to carry out the wishes of Congress, not dream up brand new tasks to spend money on.

Schools are run by states. Why not simply let states handle this? Are states this weak that they can't handle school security?