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Little-Acorn
05-30-2007, 01:41 PM
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsburg made a speech from the bench recently, that points out the fundamental difference in viewpoint between law-abiding and lawbreaking judges. We should probably thank her for so explicitly identifying her misconceptions of what the Court's job is.

There's a Federal law saying that people can sue their employer for wage discrimination based on sex. But only for events that happened within the last 180 days. Sounds like sort of a statute-of-limitations thing, I guess. Things that happened more than 180 days ago, can't be sued over, says the current Federal law.

A woman sued her employer for a record of many years of such pay discrimination. In a 5-4 decision, the Supremes said she couldn't sue, because she couldn't prove any such incidents happened within 180 days of when she first sued.

Ginsburg was in the minority, and said that it was a wrong decision, because the law should have been written to allow more earlier incidents to be included. She wanted the Court to rule as though the law WERE written that way, even though it clearly wasn't.

Thus, Ginsburg showed that she believed the Courts' job was to literally change the law and grant the woman her suit, against the current law as written. The majority said that that was NOT the courts' job, it was Congress's job to decide how the laws should be written. And in this case it was Congress who should change the law, if they saw fit to do so. Only if a law came into conflict with a higher law (the Constitution in this case), could the Courts step in. And this law did not conflict.

EXCELLENT decision by the Supremes. I'm sorry the woman got the shaft - it sounds like she genuinely was discrimiated against. But Congress has to change the law, to bring about a just result - NOT the courts. Good job by the Supremes (five of them, anyway) in resisting the temptation to change the law themselves.

The other three Justices signed on to Ginsburg's mistaken dissent. And so showed themselves unqualified to be judges in any court in the land.

Thank you, Justice Ginsburg, for ferreting out and exposing the lawbreaking Justices in the Supreme Court. Too bad you're one of them.

One of George W. Bush's most significant legacies, will be that he replaced lawbreaking judges such as Sandra O'Connor, with law-abiding ones like Roberts and Alito. And he still has 1-1/2 years of his term left, in which Stevens and/or Ginsburg might retire.

We can only hope.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/29/AR2007052900740_pf.html

Over Ginsburg's Dissent, Court Limits Bias Suits

By Robert Barnes
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 30, 2007; A01

A Supreme Court once again split by the thinnest of margins ruled yesterday that workers may not sue their employers over unequal pay caused by discrimination alleged to have occurred years earlier.

The court ruled 5 to 4 that Lilly Ledbetter, the lone female supervisor at a tire plant in Gadsden, Ala., did not file her lawsuit against Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. in the timely manner specified by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The decision moved Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to read a dissent from the bench, a usually rare practice that she has now employed twice in the past six weeks to criticize the majority for opinions that she said undermine women's rights.

Speaking for the three other dissenting justices, Ginsburg's voice was as precise and emotionless as if she were reading a banking decision, but the words were stinging.

"In our view, the court does not comprehend, or is indifferent to, the insidious way in which women can be victims of pay discrimination," she said.

Last month, Ginsburg rebuked the same five-justice majority for upholding the federal Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act and for language in the opinion that she said reflected "ancient notions about women's place in the family and under the Constitution -- ideas that have long since been discredited."

Yesterday she said that "Title VII was meant to govern real-world employment practices, and that world is what the court today ignores." She called for Congress to correct what she sees as the court's mistake.

In a case that Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. said was easily decided on the statute "as written," her statement from the bench was noteworthy.

Marcia Greenberger, co-president of the National Women's Law Center, said Ginsburg's attention-getting dissents are a "clarion call to the American people that this slim majority of the court is headed in the wrong direction." She noted Ginsburg's background as a feminist legal activist who helped establish women's legal rights and added: "To see them being dismantled is especially troubling."

While Greenberger and others said the court's decision in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. was a "setback for women and a setback for civil rights," business groups applauded the "fair decision" that, in the words of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, "eliminates a potential wind-fall against employers by employees trying to dredge up stale pay claims."

A jury had originally awarded Ledbetter more than $3.5 million because it found "more likely than not" that sex discrimination during her 19-year career led to her being paid substantially less than her male counterparts.

An appeals court reversed, saying the law requires that a suit be filed within 180 days "after the alleged unlawful employment practice occurred," and Ledbetter could not prove discrimination within that time period. She had argued that she was discriminated against throughout her career, receiving smaller raises than the men received, and that each paycheck that was less was a new violation.

Alito wrote for the majority that "current effects alone can't breathe life into prior, uncharged discrimination." He was joined by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. Thomas is a former chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

"We apply the statute as written, and this means that any unlawful employment practice, including those involving compensation, must be presented . . . within the period prescribed by the statute," Alito said.

Robin Conrad, executive vice president of the National Chamber Litigation Center, said: "If the court ruled the opposite way, employers could have been hauled into court on decades-old claims of discrimination."

But Ginsburg, joined by Justices John Paul Stevens, David H. Souter and Stephen G. Breyer, said the decision sets up a sometimes impossible barrier. "Pay disparities often occur, as they did in Ledbetter's case, in small increments; only over time is there strong cause to suspect that discrimination is at work," she wrote.

Even when unequal pay is discovered, she wrote, women may be reluctant to go to federal court over small amounts: "An employee like Ledbetter, trying to succeed in a male-dominated workplace, in a job filled only by men before she was hired, understandably may be anxious to avoid making waves."

5stringJeff
05-30-2007, 02:41 PM
Indeed. It is good to see a Supreme Court that interprets the law instead of writing it.

avatar4321
05-30-2007, 09:09 PM
Indeed. It is good to see a Supreme Court that interprets the law instead of writing it.

Unfortunately this is a common viewpoint that is taught alot. i found it annoying.

Little-Acorn
05-31-2007, 06:38 PM
I sometimes hear the claim, "All judges do judicial activism". In some cases, the evidence supporting it seems obvious, such as when O'Connor invented a timetable out of thinn air by which the University of Michigan should eventually end its racial discrimination. Or when a 5-4 majority of the Supreme Court ruled that the risk of hurting people's feelings was more important than 1st amendment restrictions on speech, and so ruled that the Campaign Finance "Reform" act was constitutional.

But what might a so-called "conservative" judge do, that is similar?

Suppose a judge thought it was wrong to tax incomes. He thinks taxes should only be on duties, excises, etc. He gets a case where someone says he shouldn't have to pay such-and-such a part of his income taxes, and the IRS says he should pay. Despite the clear language of the 16th amendment saying income taxes are OK, this judge says that income taxes are an "unnecessary burden", and so rules that the man does not have to pay. This forms a precedent, and suddenly income taxes are being disallowed right and left as a result.

That would be one (hypothetical) example of a so-called "conservative" judge legislating from the bench. But has anyone ever seen any judge ruling MORE in favor of "conservative" law than the law itself specifies? Or ruling against any law that people felt was too liberal even though it was properly legislated and signed into law?

So-called "liberal" judges err or the side of liberalism frequently. But do so-called "conservative" judges really do it too?

Please, name ONE example.

Kathianne
05-31-2007, 06:53 PM
Unfortunately this is a common viewpoint that is taught alot. i found it annoying.

:confused: Which? Jeff's or Ginsberg's?

avatar4321
05-31-2007, 11:23 PM
:confused: Which? Jeff's or Ginsberg's?

Ginsberg's. For some reason people seem to think its the courts and not the legislature that fixes things.