Three Marines die in shooting at..

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/quantico-on-lockdown-shooting-suspect-sought/2013/03/22/a6641558-92ac-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html

By Dan Morse (http://www.washingtonpost.com/dan-morse/2011/02/28/ABv0isM_page.html) and Jeremy Borden (http://www.washingtonpost.com/jeremy-borden/2012/05/07/gIQAJ8OO9T_page.html), Published: March 21
<article>Two Marines were shot and killed late Thursday at the Officer Candidate School at Marine Corps Base Quantico, and the suspected shooter, also a Marine, fatally shot himself inside a barracks on the base, authorities said.
The shooter gunned down a male Marine before seizing a woman and killing her and then himself, officials said. They declined to publicly discuss a possible motive in the attacks but said the incident was neither a terrorist incident nor an attempt to cause mass casualties.
</article>
Video
http://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_296w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/03/22/Cops-Courts/Images/Marine_Base_Quantico-Shooting.JPEG-027f5.jpg (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/qauntico-comander-three-marines-dead-a-tragic-loss/2013/03/22/395f14b3-6563-415e-9214-8b56e67a0b3f_video.html)
Authorities at Quantico Marine base in Virginia say an active duty Marine is suspected of shooting to death a male and female colleague before killing himself.

Twitter reaction to Quantico shootings (http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/local/twitter-reaction-to-fridays-shootings-at-quantico/78/)http://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_90x60/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/03/22/Production/Daily/A-Section/Images/164282323.jpg (http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/local/twitter-reaction-to-fridays-shootings-at-quantico/78/)MAR 22
Residents responded after a lockdown following shootings that left three Marines dead.





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The Officer Candidate School at the Marine Corps Base Quantico.
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<article>They said the gunman and two victims were members of the same unit and knew one another. “This was an isolated incident,” said Capt. Eric D. Flanagan, a Marine spokesman at the Pentagon. “At no point was this suspected to be a mass shooting.”
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a senior military official who works at the Pentagon said a romantic entanglement might have prompted the shootings.
“The most likely explanation is a love triangle,” said the official, who had been briefed on the incident. The official cautioned, however, that the investigation is ongoing.
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[gabosaurus]

Was the shooter a Muslim? This would make it a terrorist attack.

[aboutime]

Was the shooter a Muslim? This would make it a terrorist attack.


gabby. The shooter called himself gabby, and that made it an Idiot attack.

[Voted4Reagan]

gabby. The shooter called himself gabby, and that made it an Idiot attack.

do not feed the troll old friend...

it is fat enough already

[aboutime]

do not feed the troll old friend...

it is fat enough already


I know, I know. But it's so much fun, knowing she has me on IGNORE. You can't feed something that claims not to EAT.

[jafar00]

Sergeant Eusebio Lopez, 25, gunned down 19-year-old Lance Corporal Sara Castromata and Corporal Jacob Wooley, 23
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/24/quantico-base-shooting-gunman-named

Still terrorism if you consider Nidal Hasan a terrorist.

[Voted4Reagan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/24/quantico-base-shooting-gunman-named

Still terrorism if you consider Nidal Hasan a terrorist.

Major Hasan shouted ":ALLAH AKBAR" before he killed.

That made it terrorism, in the name of ISLAM, In the name of ALLAH and in the name of The Prophet.


This incident wasn't even closely related.

[jafar00]

Major Hasan shouted ":ALLAH AKBAR" before he killed.

That made it terrorism, in the name of ISLAM, In the name of ALLAH and in the name of The Prophet.


This incident wasn't even closely related.

How does shouting Allahu Akbar or not change a shooting into terrorism? Terrorism is a political act.


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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

Both incidents are workplace violence incidents when a member of your armed forces cracked under the pressure for some reason. Yelling Allahu Akbar or even Yankee Doodle Dandee doesn't suddenly change the incident into a terrorist act.

[Voted4Reagan]

How does shouting Allahu Akbar or not change a shooting into terrorism? Terrorism is a political act.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

Both incidents are workplace violence incidents when a member of your armed forces cracked under the pressure for some reason. Yelling Allahu Akbar or even Yankee Doodle Dandee doesn't suddenly change the incident into a terrorist act.

Jafar,

You know as well as I that when you scream out "ALLAH AKBAR" you do it in the name of Allah, The Prophet and and for Islam as a whole.

Do not try to keyhole and confuse it Jafar. For years that has been the defining phrase of the terrorists..

you are being quite intellectually dishonest.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Jafar,

You know as well as I that when you scream out "ALLAH AKBAR" you do it in the name of Allah, The Prophet and and for Islam as a whole.

Do not try to keyhole and confuse it Jafar. For years that has been the defining phrase of the terrorists..

you are being quite intellectually dishonest.

Jahil will now disappear from the thread, as usual.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/24/quantico-base-shooting-gunman-named

Still terrorism if you consider Nidal Hasan a terrorist.

Why? Was the shooter in this incident also shouting praises to Allah when gunning down his brothers in arms?
If not then your comment is a pretty damn stupid one to make. -Tyr

[jimnyc]

How does shouting Allahu Akbar or not change a shooting into terrorism? Terrorism is a political act.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

Both incidents are workplace violence incidents when a member of your armed forces cracked under the pressure for some reason. Yelling Allahu Akbar or even Yankee Doodle Dandee doesn't suddenly change the incident into a terrorist act.

But the action of the person BEFORE the shooting could tell a different picture, or a more complete picture. It's not just what he yelled. He was in communications with an Al Qaeda terror leader for some time before his actions. I suppose that's just a coincidence?

[jimnyc]

Btw, from what I recall, Hasan was in contact with the Al Qaeda leader from as early as 2002, and then it increased and they had a LOT of email exchanges between 2008 and 2009. Oh, that's right, it stopped because this terror attack was in 2009.

[jimnyc]

Copied from a previous post of mine:


The reason I would label it terrorism is because I don't think he just snapped one day. I think this was a premeditated mass murder. His connections to Awlaki were clear, and he wanted to know about the afterlife, suicide attacks and such. He even wanted to know from Awlaki if it were OK that innocents were killed in an attack. There is little doubt, to me, what this guy was planning and what he eventually executed. I think the government knows this too, hence the fact that the joint terrorism task force were involved.

And from an article I haven't read before. These are not things indicative of someone in a workplace shooting, but rather of someone planning a terror attack and seeking guidance from a terror leader.


United States Army Major Nidal Hasan told a radical cleric considered by authorities to be an al-Qaeda recruiter, "I can't wait to join you" in the afterlife, according to an American official with top secret access to 18 e-mails exchanged between Hasan and the cleric, Anwar al Awlaki, over a six month period between Dec. 2008 and June 2009.

"It sounds like code words," said Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, a military analyst at the Center for Advanced Defense Studies. "That he's actually either offering himself up or that he's already crossed that line in his own mind."

Other messages include questions, the official with access to the e-mails said, that include when is jihad appropriate, and whether it is permissible if there are innocents killed in a suicide attack.

"Hasan told Awlaki he couldn't wait to join him in the discussions they would having over non-alcoholic wine in the afterlife," the official said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/major-hasansmail-wait-join-afterlife/story?id=9130339#.UVRyB1eHd8E

[aboutime]

Copied from a previous post of mine:



And from an article I haven't read before. These are not things indicative of someone in a workplace shooting, but rather of someone planning a terror attack and seeking guidance from a terror leader.



http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/major-hasansmail-wait-join-afterlife/story?id=9130339#.UVRyB1eHd8E


jimnyc. What they are NOT reporting...in order to incite conspiracy theories is...IT WAS A LOVE TRIANGLE!
Had nothing to do with terror attacks, or terrorists as some would LOVE IT TO BE.
And, for those who ask me to prove it.
My Son...the Marine, and his Wife...both work at that Marine Corps Base.
Let them pretend this is like FORT HOOD all they want. Stupidity rules.