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jimnyc
04-02-2013, 12:19 PM
U.N. passes sweeping international arms regulation viewed by some as Second Amendment overrideThe United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday signed off on a sweeping, first-of-its-kind treaty to regulate the international arms trade, brushing aside worries from U.S. gun rights advocates that the pact could lead to a national firearms registry and disrupt the American gun market.

The long-debated U.N. Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) requires countries to regulate and control the export of weaponry such as battle tanks, combat vehicles and aircraft and attack helicopters, as well as parts and ammunition for such weapons. It also provides that signatories will not violate arms embargoes, international treaties regarding illicit trafficking, or sell weaponry to a countries for genocide, crimes against humanity or other war crimes.

With the Obama administration supporting the final treaty draft, the General Assembly vote was 154 to 3, with 23 abstentions.

American gun rights activists, though, insist the treaty is riddled with loopholes and is unworkable in part because it includes “small arms and light weapons” in its list of weaponry subject to international regulations. They do not trust U.N. assertions that the pact is meant to regulate only cross-border trade and would have no impact on domestic U.S. laws and markets.

Critics of the treaty were heartened by the U.S. Senate’s resistance to ratifying the document, assuming President Obama sent it to the chamber for ratification. In its budget debate late last month, the Senate approved a nonbinding amendment opposing the treaty offered by Sen. James M. Inhofe, Oklahoma Republican, with eight Democrats joining all 45 Republicans backing the amendment.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/2/un-passes-international-arms-regulation-treaty/

Marcus Aurelius
04-02-2013, 12:56 PM
regulate and control the export of
...the operative words.

This will have zero effect on guns manufacturers or sales or availability within the US. 2nd is intact.

jimnyc
04-02-2013, 01:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/tmUmPnK.jpg

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/here-are-the-46-senators-who-voted-to-turn-your-gun-rights-over-to-un/

Marcus Aurelius
04-02-2013, 01:16 PM
I dislike the current administration as much as the next card carrying NRA member. However, this affects only exports. No domestic affects, other than not being able to export.

jimnyc
04-02-2013, 01:29 PM
I dislike the current administration as much as the next card carrying NRA member. However, this affects only exports. No domestic affects, other than not being able to export.

I agree with your description of what this does, I still think it's horseshit. A US gun manufacturer should be free to do business with whom they please, within the law. The US and others just allowed the UN to determine those laws.

Marcus Aurelius
04-02-2013, 01:36 PM
I agree with your description of what this does, I still think it's horseshit. A US gun manufacturer should be free to do business with whom they please, within the law. The US and others just allowed the UN to determine those laws.

i agree. but technically, they would have to abide by treaties the federal government sings and which are ratified. this is slightly different, and i am not sure the US can enforce it.

darin
04-02-2013, 02:34 PM
There's no hope, really. None left. Society will implode, see: cyprus.

Generally our population is, and Liberals specifically, is/are fundamentally retarded.

"We want the Government to give us free shit!"

"We don't want to pay for the government to give us free shit"

"We demand businesses pay everyone at LEAST (insert amount)!"

"We demand businesses keep LOW PRICES!"

"We demand FREEDOMS - to be given out only after careful consideration by our Supreme God - Government - decides it's okay, based upon their review of bad science, and at the behest of intere$ted groups!"



As our society progresses towards socialism, we are sealing our fate. Stupid people vastly outnumber those who even give a shit about Liberty.

Robert A Whit
04-02-2013, 06:11 PM
...the operative words.

This will have zero effect on guns manufacturers or sales or availability within the US. 2nd is intact.

Unless the US Senate approves this, it is as dead as our involvement in Kyoto was and still is.

jafar00
04-02-2013, 06:29 PM
I agree with your description of what this does, I still think it's horseshit. A US gun manufacturer should be free to do business with whom they please, within the law. The US and others just allowed the UN to determine those laws.

The international arms trade fuels war. Anything that can be done to stop it is a good thing. If a dictator wants to kill his own people, he should make his own damn bombs.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
04-02-2013, 06:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/tmUmPnK.jpg

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/here-are-the-46-senators-who-voted-to-turn-your-gun-rights-over-to-un/

Every damn one of those on that list should be arrested, tried for treason and if found guilty shot!!!
I'd not only volunteer the gun and ammo but do the deed were they found guilty and sentenced by an American court.

They did far more than attempt to destroy our 2nd Amendment rights. They were willing to sign away our sovereignty as well. --Tyr