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Marcus Aurelius
04-08-2013, 01:53 PM
http://www.bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm


70% of what is here is from Muslim and ex-Muslim historians - back to the 8th century and the Qur'an itself.



There are more than 100 verses in the Qur'an (Koran) advocating the use of violence to spread Islam. There are exactly 123 verses in the Qur'an about killing and fighting. The word "Islam" has been falsely proclaimed by Muslims to mean peace. The word Islam, actually means "submission" to the Muslim god of intolerance and hatred. It comes from the root Arabic word "taslim". In Arabic, the word for peace is only "solh".




The god of Muslims is revealed as a tyrant who demands Muslims and all others submit to him.


When a Muslim declares that Islam is a religion of peace, he/she is either ignorant of the Koran (Qur'an), or is deceitfully thinking of this "peace", as it extends only to those within the Muslim Community. The deceit is that they will not tell you exactly what they mean. According to the Qur'an: "Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, but ruthless to unbelievers" Surah 48:29. "Kill the Mushrikun (unbelievers) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush..." Surah 9:5. Also see Surah 9:29 (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html):


A tenet of Islam is that both Mohammed and Jesus of Nazareth were both Muslims. Islam says both were prophets sent by Allah. If this were true, then it is mandatory that these two great prophets must coincide exactly in all points and never contradict each other. Did not the same Allah send both of them? Then, aren't even the smallest of contradictions between the two, very big red flags?


Surah 5:68 - Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law (Torah), the Gospel (Injeel), and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord."

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Surah 29:46 Muslims are told by Allah, not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying, "And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one;


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Islam says that Jesus did not die. So, again --Islam has proven to be false; because Muhammad claimed the Gospel is true, and all 4 Gospels (Injil) testify that Jesus died and rose from the dead.


Muhammad said for Muslims to read the Bible for "Guidance and Light." For Islam to say they are corrupted, then is to call Muhammad a liar for recommending it.



Muhammad's child wife said this after Muhammad died: "The verse of the stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the messenger of Allah expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper." The goat ate her homework?


Even though their own prophet completely attested to the genuineness and authenticity of the Old and New Testaments, Islam makes the claim that they have been corrupted. Why? Because the Qur'an erroneously contradicts them both. And Islamic clerics know it. In Muslim cleric minds this also relieves them of Muhammad's statements such like:

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Muslims who have received the Qur'an have no solid grounds of faith, and that the foundation of the Muslim faith is insecure and insufficient and the Muslim religion is futile, unless they observe and follow the Taurat (Torah) and the Gospel (Injil).

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Many Muslims Imams and Mullahs falsely point to Surah 2:140 to try and prove that Jews and Christians had corrupted their Scriptures. Referring to the Jews, this Surah says; "...who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from Allah?...?" Yet, nowhere does this Surah state that the Jews and Christians corrupted their scriptures. Muslim clerics need to point to something because they know that the Jewish Torah and Christian Gospels badly contradict the Islamic Qur'an. The fact that Muhammad and Allah told Muslims to believe in the Torah and Christian Gospels is a very bad dilemma for these professionals who wish to continue making a good living in Islam.



this site is an excellent read for those with open minds who want to know the truth about Islam and Mohammed.

aboutime
04-08-2013, 02:33 PM
Likely excuses Marcus. Feel free to use this for Emphasis....4832

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
04-08-2013, 06:20 PM
http://www.bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm


Thanks, I bookmarked that site. Will start studying it this week .
Did a very quick look at it and yes it appears to be a really good one. -Tyr















The goat ate her homework?


Ahh, goes that far back.:laugh:--Tyr




this site is an excellent read for those with open minds who want to know the truth about Islam and Mohammed.

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Jafar would do well to bone up there. He is not doing too well now .;)-Tyr

aboutime
04-08-2013, 06:25 PM
Marcus, these words caught my eye.

The main intent of this article is to warn Christians who may be "fooled" into Islam, because they did not have all the facts. It is a matter of grave concern. If you reject Jesus and the salvation He made possible -- and follow Islam, your entire salvation (where you will spend eternity) is at stake. Islam can deceive you.

The last words above......Islam can deceive you. Kinda says everything we need to know.

tailfins
04-08-2013, 08:04 PM
Marcus, these words caught my eye.

The main intent of this article is to warn Christians who may be "fooled" into Islam, because they did not have all the facts. It is a matter of grave concern. If you reject Jesus and the salvation He made possible -- and follow Islam, your entire salvation (where you will spend eternity) is at stake. Islam can deceive you.

The last words above......Islam can deceive you. Kinda says everything we need to know.

While you're theologically correct, you need to at least point out the contribution to society a given religion has made so you don't generate ill will which would impede your witnessing ability.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
04-08-2013, 08:42 PM
While you're theologically correct, you need to at least point out the contribution to society a given religion has made so you don't generate ill will which would impede your witnessing ability.

You mean like child rape, murder , torture, beheading , limb amputation, stoning, hanging, bombing, acid burning, honor killing, slavery, women abuse and degradation, etc.????
Sure, I point out those common offerings in Islam quite often myself.
Glad we are on the same page..- :clap:-Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
04-08-2013, 09:30 PM
If my axe is not sharp enough I can crank the chainsaw..-:laugh: