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red states rule
05-15-2013, 03:27 AM
Who wants the IRS overseeing Obamacare now?

Anyone?





The Internal Revenue Service scandal would be bad enough if the IRS just handled issues like collecting income taxes and granting nonprofit status. But the immensely powerful federal agency is about to become even more powerful with the arrival of national health care, and that makes the still-unfolding scandal even more troubling.



"When I hold town meetings, a great deal of distrust comes through about the size and increasing power of government," says Republican Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa. "The IRS targeting crystallizes that distrust in a very big way because of the IRS' reach into taxpayer information. What's happened heightens fears about how the IRS will handle taxpayer information and wield its power when it enforces Obamacare starting next year."



The IRS is critical to Obamacare. The structure created by the Affordable Care Act requires the government to know about both the health care coverage (or lack of it) and the financial resources of every American. The IRS, which already knows the latter, was the only agency with the reach to do the job.

A look at the text of the health care law reveals that much of it consists of amending the Internal Revenue Code to give the IRS more power. When Obamacare goes fully into effect in January, every American will have to prove to the IRS that he or she has "qualifying" health coverage, meaning coverage with a list of features approved by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. That will be done by submitting a document to the IRS, something like a W-2, to confirm coverage.



The IRS will also decide who is, and who is not, eligible for Obamacare's subsidies. The law authorizes the IRS to share confidential taxpayer information with the Department of Health and Human Services for the purpose of determining those subsidies. And since subsidies don't just apply to a relatively small number of the nation's poorest citizens -- under the law, they can go to a family of four with a household income of nearly $90,000 -- they will affect a huge segment of the population.



In addition, the IRS will keep track of even the smallest changes in Americans' financial condition. Did you get a raise recently? You'll need to notify the IRS; it might affect your subsidy status. Have your hours been reduced at work? Notify the IRS. Change jobs? Same.


http://washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-irs-scandal-raises-fears-about-enforcing-obamacare/article/2529589

BillyBob
05-15-2013, 07:22 AM
I suggest that everyone refuse to pay income tax. There's not a goddam thing they could ever do about it.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-15-2013, 09:01 AM
I suggest that everyone refuse to pay income tax. There's not a goddam thing they could ever do about it.

Except start using all that damn ammo they bought.
Hint-- They didn't buy it to just look at.... think about that for a spell.. -Tyr

aboutime
05-15-2013, 02:14 PM
I suggest that everyone refuse to pay income tax. There's not a goddam thing they could ever do about it.


BillyBob. Wanna bet?

How bout you be the first, come next April 15th to refuse to pay them.

Then, let us know how that worked out.

aboutime
05-15-2013, 02:17 PM
Who wants the IRS overseeing Obamacare now?

Anyone?


red states rule. Unless Congress passes a bill that Removes Obamacare from the record. The IRS will still oversee Obamacare.

Only One Way to change it. And, not Obama, Biden, or any other Democrat in the Majority of the Senate is gonna change that.

red states rule
05-15-2013, 03:15 PM
Who wants to deal with the IRS regarding to their healthcare

Obamacare will have the efficiency of the DMV

aboutime
05-15-2013, 03:17 PM
Who wants to deal with the IRS regarding to their healthcare

Obamacare will have the efficiency of the DMV


Totally agree with you. BUT....unless the Obamacare Bill is REPEALED. We're still stuck with it, and all of it's dangers to our society.

red states rule
05-15-2013, 03:19 PM
Totally agree with you. BUT....unless the Obamacare Bill is REPEALED. We're still stuck with it, and all of it's dangers to our society.

The first step to repeal is simply refunding it. After 2012 mid-term we will see if we have the votes to over-ride a veto

aboutime
05-15-2013, 03:24 PM
The first step to repeal is simply refunding it. After 2012 mid-term we will see if we have the votes to over-ride a veto


You mean 2014....

red states rule
05-15-2013, 03:27 PM
http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Obamacare587.jpg

BillyBob
05-15-2013, 03:39 PM
BillyBob. Wanna bet?

How bout you be the first, come next April 15th to refuse to pay them.

Then, let us know how that worked out.


I haven't paid income tax for decades. Screw the IRS.

Are you afraid of them?

red states rule
05-15-2013, 04:11 PM
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ev51815cbf.jpg

red states rule
05-16-2013, 02:29 AM
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/aria_c10929020130516120100.jpg

aboutime
05-16-2013, 09:41 PM
I haven't paid income tax for decades. Screw the IRS.

Are you afraid of them?


Sure. Which is why I obey the law. Until they tell us taxes are illegal, and we don't need to worry about paying them. You bet.

BillyBob
05-16-2013, 09:45 PM
Sure. Which is why I obey the law. Until they tell us taxes are illegal, and we don't need to worry about paying them. You bet.


Like a good little lemming, you are doing exactly what your scary tyrannical government expects from you.

Congratulations.

red states rule
05-17-2013, 01:54 AM
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red states rule
05-17-2013, 01:56 AM
Except start using all that damn ammo they bought.
Hint-- They didn't buy it to just look at.... think about that for a spell.. -Tyr

http://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/irs-health.jpg

red states rule
05-20-2013, 03:27 PM
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