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red states rule
05-16-2013, 03:53 AM
So much for the "Affordable" Care Act




The House Energy and Commerce Committee today released a report (http://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/files/analysis/insurancepremiums/FinalReport.pdf) citing internal documents from the nation’s largest health insurance companies that reveal the health care law’s policies, mandates, taxes, and fees will cause major premium increases for consumers in the individual, small group and large group markets. As part of the committee’s ongoing efforts to educate the American people on the law’s impact, Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-MI), Chairman Emeritus Joe Barton (R-TX), Vice Chairman Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee Chairman Tim Murphy (R-PA), Health Subcommittee Chairman Joe Pitts (R-PA), and Vice Chairman of the Health and Oversight and Investigations Subcommittees Michael C. Burgess, M.D. (R-TX) requested (http://energycommerce.house.gov/letter/letters-health-insurance-companies-regarding-ppacas-effect-health-insurance-premiums) existing analyses from 17 insurers on the law’s effects on insurance premiums on March 14, 2013.


The report states, “Affordability. It was a central premise – and promise – of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) when the law was debated in Congress throughout 2009 and signed into law on March 23, 2010. In his remarks that day, President Barack Obama stated: ‘This legislation will also lower costs for families and businesses…’ Over three years later, the White House continues to state that the PPACA will lower costs.


“The following report chronicles the massive premium increases awaiting Americans when full implementation of the PPACA occurs in eight months, definitively contradicting the promise that the law will lower costs. As this report demonstrates, consumers purchasing health insurance on the individual market may face premium increases of nearly 100 percent on average, with potential highs eclipsing 400 percent. Meanwhile, small businesses can expect average premium increases in the small group market of up to 50 percent, with potential highs over 100 percent.”

http://energycommerce.house.gov/press-release/obamacare-rate-shocker-committee-surveys-leading-insurance-companies%E2%80%94obamacare-cause

tailfins
05-16-2013, 06:55 AM
So much for the "Affordable" Care Act

If the premium for a useful family policy is $1,500 to $1,800 PER MONTH, how many people are just going to do without health insurance when the premium approaches $3,000 PER MONTH? If health insurance is really that important, the only real solution I see is working as a consultant, apply for free/reduced health insurance when between gigs when technically unemployed where the healthcare benefit lasts 6-12 months.

BillyBob
05-16-2013, 09:12 PM
No, that can't be correct. After all, it is called the 'Affordable Health Care Act'.

Robert A Whit
05-16-2013, 09:23 PM
If the premium for a useful family policy is $1,500 to $1,800 PER MONTH, how many people are just going to do without health insurance when the premium approaches $3,000 PER MONTH? If health insurance is really that important, the only real solution I see is working as a consultant, apply for free/reduced health insurance when between gigs when technically unemployed where the healthcare benefit lasts 6-12 months.

There are far better systems than paying insurance companies.

BillyBob
05-16-2013, 09:28 PM
There are far better systems than paying insurance companies.


I'd rather pay an insurance company than pay the government. At least with an insurance company I'd have a pretty decent chance to get my money's worth.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-16-2013, 09:30 PM
No, that can't be correct. After all, it is called the 'Affordable Health Care Act'.

Should have been called the liberal/socialist ff-you bullshit act. :laugh:

BillyBob
05-16-2013, 09:33 PM
Should have been called the liberal/socialist ff-you bullshit act. :laugh:


Or maybe a 'tax increase'. At least that would have been accurate.

red states rule
05-17-2013, 01:51 AM
Or maybe a 'tax increase'. At least that would have been accurate.

No - no - no

The "alternate sources of revenue" in Obamacare are not taxes

They are fees

Ask one of Obama's loyal followers here on the board and he will tell you they are FEES not taxes. Over one trillion dollars in new fees to be exact

red states rule
05-17-2013, 01:53 AM
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BillyBob
05-19-2013, 03:58 PM
No - no - no

The "alternate sources of revenue" in Obamacare are not taxes

They are fees

Ask one of Obama's loyal followers here on the board and he will tell you they are FEES not taxes. Over one trillion dollars in new fees to be exact


Yet Obama convinced the SCOTUS that these are indeed taxes. It was the only way they'd go along with it.

Missileman
05-19-2013, 04:58 PM
Yet Obama convinced the SCOTUS that these are indeed taxes. It was the only way they'd go along with it.

IIRC, the SC convinced itself through an exercise of mental gymnastics that it was a tax, not a fee. The government attorneys were arguing fee the whole time.

BillyBob
05-19-2013, 05:30 PM
IIRC, the SC convinced itself through an exercise of mental gymnastics that it was a tax, not a fee. The government attorneys were arguing fee the whole time.

Yeah, SCOTUS really SCREWDUS.

tailfins
05-19-2013, 06:12 PM
There are far better systems than paying insurance companies.

Are you referring to just paying cash for routine care and just don't pay the bill if you need expensive care?

red states rule
05-20-2013, 03:15 AM
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