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Kathianne
05-24-2013, 04:35 AM
Getting it right:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323475304578501581991103070.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion


Noonan: A Battering Ram Becomes a StonewallThe IRS's leaders refuse to account for the agency's corruption and abuse.
"I don't know." "I don't remember." "I'm not familiar with that detail." "It's not my precise area." "I'm not familiar with that letter."


These are quotes from the Internal Revenue Service officials who testified this week before the House and Senate. That is the authentic sound of stonewalling, and from the kind of people who run Washington in the modern age—smooth, highly credentialed and unaccountable. They're surrounded by legal and employment protections, they know how to parse a careful response, they know how to blur the essential point of a question in a blizzard of unconnected factoids. They came across as people arrogant enough to target Americans for abuse and harassment and think they'd get away with it.


So what did we learn the past week, and what are the essentials to keep in mind?


We learned the people who ran and run the IRS are not going to help Congress find out what happened in the IRS. We know we haven't gotten near the bottom of the political corruption of that agency. We do not know who ordered the targeting of conservative groups and individuals, or why, or exactly when it began. We don't know who executed the orders or directives. We do not know the full scope or extent of the scandal. We don't know, for instance, how many applicants for tax-exempt status were abused.


We know the IRS commissioner wasn't telling the truth in March 2012, when he testified: "There's absolutely no targeting." We have learned the Lois Lerner lied when she claimed she had spontaneously admitted the targeting in a Q-and-A at a Washington meeting. It was part of a spin operation in which she'd planted the question with a friend. We know the tax-exempt bureau Ms. Lerner ran did not simply make mistakes because it was overwhelmed with requests—the targeting began before a surge in applications. And Ms. Lerner did not learn about the targeting in 2012—the IRS audit timeline shows she was briefed in June 2011. She said the targeting was the work of rogue agents in the Cincinnati office. But the Washington Post spoke to an IRS worker there, who said: "Everything comes from the top."


We know that Lois Lerner this week announced she'd done nothing wrong, and then took the Fifth.
And we know Jay Leno, grown interestingly fearless, said of the new IRS commissioner, "They're called 'acting commissioner' because you have to act like the scandal doesn't involve the White House."


But the most important IRS story came not from the hearings but from Mike Huckabee's program on Fox News Channel. He interviewed and told the story of Catherine Engelbrecht—a nice woman, a citizen, an American. She and her husband live in Richmond, Texas. They have a small manufacturing business. In the past few years she became interested in public policy and founded two groups, King Street Patriots, and True the Vote.


In July 2010 she sent applications to the IRS for tax-exempt status. What followed was not the harassment, intrusiveness and delay we're now used to hearing of. The US government came down on her with full force.



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IRS officials have complained that the law is murky, it's difficult to define what the tax exemption law really means. But they don't have any problem defining it. They defined it with a vengeance.


Second, it is important to remember that there has never been an investigation of what happened in the IRS. There was an internal IRS audit, not an investigation, carried out by an inspector general, who was careful this week to note to the House what he'd done was not an investigation. He was tasked to come to conclusions on whether there had been wrongdoing at the agency. It was not his job to find out exactly why it happened, how and when the scandal began, who was involved, and how they operated.


A dead serious investigation is needed. The IRS has colorfully demonstrated that it cannot investigate itself. The Obama administration wants the FBI—which answers to Eric Holder's Justice Department—to investigate, but that would not be credible. The investigators of the IRS must be independent of the administration, or their conclusions will not be trustworthy.


An independent counsel, with all the powers of that office, is what we need.

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taft2012
05-24-2013, 06:04 AM
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/05/23/the_stonewall_and_shulman_show



Under the direction of Lois "Stonewall" Lerner, the Federal Election Commission (that's where she worked in the nineties) sued the Christian Coalition.

She harassed them for three election cycles. She lost the case. She even asked one conservative during the case if Pat Robertson prayed over him. I mentioned this yesterday. It was Ollie North. She wanted to know, "What did Robertson pray over you? What did he say?" North said, "What the hell is this? That has nothing to do with anything here," but she was hell-bent on finding out.

She's got Christianity and Christians on the brain here, folks. There's no other way to say it: She's got a hatred. Anyway, that performance led to her being promoted to the IRS, where she used the same kind of behavior in hassling and delaying the tax-exempt authorizations for Tea Party groups, including pro-life and conservative 501(c)(3)s, the various tax-exempt statuses.



Five hundred conservative and Christian groups were illegally targeted by the Obama IRS during her tenure. Of course, she doesn't know anything about it. She didn't do anything wrong. Obama doesn't know anything about it. (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/05/21/obama_isn_t_just_too_big_to_fail_he_s_too_big_to_k now) Jay Carney said Obama doesn't know anything about it; it's a good thing Obama doesn't know. Nobody knows anything about it.

Quite a coincidence that a woman with this history landed in the IRS overseeing tax exempt status for conservative groups? :rolleyes:

aboutime
05-24-2013, 01:26 PM
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/05/23/the_stonewall_and_shulman_show



Quite a coincidence that a woman with this history landed in the IRS overseeing tax exempt status for conservative groups? :rolleyes:


Thanks taft. By the way. In case no-one has noticed. I collect photo's related to politics like
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