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Marcus Aurelius
06-05-2013, 08:17 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/06/05/austerity_myth_118693.html


With a condescending sigh, they explain that Europe made deep cuts in government spending, and the result was today's high unemployment. "With erstwhile middle-class workers reduced to picking through garbage in search of food, austerity has already gone too far," writes Paul Krugman in The New York Times.

One problem with this conclusion: European governments didn't cut! If workers pick through garbage, cuts can't be a reason, since they didn't happen.
That doesn't stop leftists from complaining about cuts or stop Europeans from protesting announced austerity plans. But if austerity means spending less, that hasn't happened.





Some European countries tried to reduce deficits by raising taxes. England slapped a 25 percent tax increase on the wealthy, but it didn't bring in the revenues hoped for. Rich people move their assets elsewhere, or just stop working as much.




Iceland was hit by bank collapses -- but government ignored street protests and cut real spending. Iceland's budget deficit fell from 13 percent of gross domestic product to 3. Iceland's economy is now growing.




Canada slashed spending 20 years ago and now outranks the U.S. on many economic indicators.




Around the same time, Japan went the other way, investing heavily in the public sector in an attempt to jump-start its economy, much as the U.S. did with "stimulus" under President Obama. The result? Japan's economy stagnated.

The left now claims Japan didn't stimulate "enough."



Actually, we don't need to "balance" it. We just need to slow spending growth to about 2 percent a year, so the economy can gain on our debt. But politicians won't do even that.



The first step toward a solution is just being honest about the deep hole we're in -- giving up on the lie that governments elsewhere failed with "austere" budgets. They haven't.

aboutime
06-05-2013, 08:45 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/06/05/austerity_myth_118693.html





















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So....who let Krugman out of the garbage can again????

fj1200
06-05-2013, 08:52 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/06/05/austerity_myth_118693.html

I think the Republicans have to be very careful in not getting tarred with the failure of austerity. True austerity is cutting spending and raising taxes and is a documented failure. Even slowing spending growth with incentivizing tax cuts will do wonders for our deficits. See the '90s as example. Just screaming about spending cuts will scare away potential voters.

Marcus Aurelius
06-05-2013, 09:21 AM
I think the Republicans have to be very careful in not getting tarred with the failure of austerity. True austerity is cutting spending and raising taxes and is a documented failure. Even slowing spending growth with incentivizing tax cuts will do wonders for our deficits. See the '90s as example. Just screaming about spending cuts will scare away potential voters.

Thus Stossel's comment...


Actually, we don't need to "balance" it. We just need to slow spending growth to about 2 percent a year, so the economy can gain on our debt. But politicians won't do even that.

Neither side sees the most obvious and possibly easiest solution. Or, they see it, but don't want to jeopardize their jobs to try it.

fj1200
06-05-2013, 09:25 AM
Thus Stossel's comment...

Neither side sees the most obvious and possibly easiest solution. Or, they see it, but don't want to jeopardize their jobs to try it.

Didn't realize it was Stossel, thanks. I was adding the tax cut part. :poke:

But I don't think it's their jobs so much as stuck in a particular ideology.

Marcus Aurelius
06-05-2013, 09:58 AM
Rand Paul has some serious cutting in his budget plan. The OP link give a small taste.

Raman
06-06-2013, 06:34 AM
They don't care about solving problems, most of them. They just care about getting reelected.

Marcus Aurelius
06-06-2013, 06:53 AM
They don't care about solving problems, most of them. They just care about getting reelected.

yup.

welcome.

aboutime
06-06-2013, 05:25 PM
They don't care about solving problems, most of them. They just care about getting reelected.


Welcome Raman. You'll soon see how you are speaking to the Choir. Get comfortable, and prepare for the unexpected.