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Supposn
06-05-2013, 10:39 PM
Government or self- regulations?</SPAN>
Financial industries’ self regulation?

Am I the only member of this group old enough to remember a drug that was being used worldwide prior to the completion of USA drug regulations that would permit it to be generally prescribed within the USA? Due to the drug, additional births of permanently deformed infants were occurring world-wide. The only USA babies so born were due to their parents or physicians circumventing USA’s regulations and using the drug for pregnant women.</SPAN>



USA’s real-estate bubble burst and drastically affected economies even beyond our borders. Republicans try to blame this upon Democratic bank regulatory policies but no bank was ever forced to make a poorly collateralized loan. They did so because their greed exceeded their prudence.</SPAN>

During Johnson’s administration private investors were permitted to participate within the government sponsored entities, (GSEs). These are the entities that were enabled to increase the pools of funds available for federally insured mortgages by selling bundles of mortgages to investors such as financial institutions; that worked out fine.</SPAN>
Later a Democratic majority congress which included significant numbers of agreeing Republicans passed an act enabling GSEs to handle non-federally insured mortgages. That in my opinion was the most economically harmful decision with regard to GSEs. President Nixon signed that bill and thus he, (more than any other individual) permitted that bill to become federal law.</SPAN>

[In this case I’m not accusing anyone of duplicity. It’s always easier to believe that what’s to our own best advantage is equally to the nation’s best advantage]. Leaders of our greatest financial institutions believed this was a win-win for both private investors and the nation’s economy. The bill was problematic. The axiom of “no free lunch” wasn’t fully recognized in this act or because profits were perceived and the axiom’s application within this act wasn’t fully appreciated].</SPAN>

The prospectuses presented to investors state no legal requirement for federal financial backing of GSE’s, but influential persons at the highest levels of USA’s federal government and commercial entities winked and assured the entire world this undeclared support was actually the case. They explained that government support is evidenced by favorable tax treatment for profits derived from GSE investments. (That was the ourt government’s method of sponsoring the GSE’s. These persons creditability and influence was confirmed when the federal government did indeed put federal credit at risk to cover losses due to mortgage defaults. The federal government put itself on the hook for non-federally guaranteed loans.</SPAN>

The government did not direct financial institutions to make insufficiently collateralized loans. Banks better rewarded mortgage brokers who brought them higher interest loans for property of over stated value sold to purchasers with insufficient incomes. It became the accepted policy of no need for diligent government regulation because it was to private entities’ best interests to conduct their businesses in financially sound manners. From the financial institutions’ view point they were doing exactly that. The qualities of mortgages were of no consequences to the lenders if they could immediately sell them to the GSEs.</SPAN>

I’m less mistrustful of explicitly drafted government laws and regulations created and enacted in the sunshine and publicly viewed. I greatly dread any (government or non-government) bureaucratic discretion of policy that directly or indirectly affect me and mine and create or perpetuate inequities that evolve from the exercising of such discretion.</SPAN>

Respectfully, Supposn</SPAN>

logroller
06-06-2013, 01:39 AM
Government or self- regulations?
Financial industries’ self regulation?

Am I the only member of this group old enough to remember a drug that was being used worldwide prior to the completion of USA drug regulations that would permit it to be generally prescribed within the USA? Due to the drug, additional births of permanently deformed infants were occurring world-wide. The only USA babies so born were due to their parents or physicians circumventing USA’s regulations and using the drug for pregnant women.
Alcohol?


USA’s real-estate bubble burst and drastically affected economies even beyond our borders. Republicans try to blame this upon Democratic bank regulatory policies but no bank was ever forced to make a poorly collateralized loan. They did so because their greed exceeded their prudence.
Maybe their moms drank a lot. Sippin the sweet nectar of capitalism no doubt.


During Johnson’s administration private investors were permitted to participate within the government sponsored entities, (GSEs). These are the entities that were enabled to increase the pools of funds available for federally insured mortgages by selling bundles of mortgages to investors such as financial institutions; that worked out fine.
Later a Democratic majority congress which included significant numbers of agreeing Republicans passed an act enabling GSEs to handle non-federally insured mortgages. That in my opinion was the most economically harmful decision with regard to GSEs. President Nixon signed that bill and thus he, (more than any other individual) permitted that bill to become federal law.

The man's dead, and his legacy in life was anything but stellar. Blaming him for signing a law passed by a majority of congress with support from both sides of the aisle is to ignore the mechanisms of politics.... But did his mom drink?


[In this case I’m not accusing anyone of duplicity. It’s always easier to believe that what’s to our own best advantage is equally to the nation’s best advantage]. Leaders of our greatest financial institutions believed this was a win-win for both private investors and the nation’s economy. The bill was problematic. The axiom of “no free lunch” wasn’t fully recognized in this act or because profits were perceived and the axiom’s application within this act wasn’t fully appreciated].
No free lunch...more like happy hour.


The prospectuses presented to investors state no legal requirement for federal financial backing of GSE’s, but influential persons at the highest levels of USA’s federal government and commercial entities winked and assured the entire world this undeclared support was actually the case. They explained that government support is evidenced by favorable tax treatment for profits derived from GSE investments. (That was the ourt government’s method of sponsoring the GSE’s. These persons creditability and influence was confirmed when the federal government did indeed put federal credit at risk to cover losses due to mortgage defaults. The federal government put itself on the hook for non-federally guaranteed loans.
Too big to be allowed to fail?


The government did not direct financial institutions to make insufficiently collateralized loans. Banks better rewarded mortgage brokers who brought them higher interest loans for property of over stated value sold to purchasers with insufficient incomes. It became the accepted policy of no need for diligent government regulation because it was to private entities’ best interests to conduct their businesses in financially sound manners. From the financial institutions’ view point they were doing exactly that. The qualities of mortgages were of no consequences to the lenders if they could immediately sell them to the GSEs.
You left out people buying homes they couldn't afford, often in the expectation of windfall profits. Somehow their greed, (the impetus of the bubble), escapes your scrutiny.


I’m less mistrustful of explicitly drafted government laws and regulations created and enacted in the sunshine and publicly viewed. I greatly dread any (government or non-government) bureaucratic discretion of policy that directly or indirectly affect me and mine and create or perpetuate inequities that evolve from the exercising of such discretion.

Respectfully, Supposn
So you're less mistrustful of openness than privacy. Fair enough. Here's what collateralized debt obligations look like.
https://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.opentradingsystem.com/quantNotes/graphics/notesBZ__0__2399.gif&sa=X&ei=_SuwUYX7Ls3uqAHs0YHQCA&ved=0CHcQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNEoXYd35i-EehbVfYR5P2J5EdlCKg
http://www.opentradingsystem.com/quantNotes/Definitions_of_CDO_contract_.html

red states rule
06-06-2013, 02:04 AM
Eh, guys I am sorry but the government DID force banks to make bad loans to people who could not afford that house

I work in the mortgage industry and the Feds are continuing to interfere with the private sector and they are making things worse





'twas Wall Street greed what done it, some folks say, when it comes to explaining the spectacular housing meltdown of recent years, which had its roots in a great many astonishingly risky loans. Other folks suggest that the federal government just may have played something of a role in inducing, even strong-arming, banks to take risks they otherwise would have avoided. Specifically, the Community Reinvestment Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act) and related policy pressures are pointed to as culprits, part of a government effort to extend home-ownership in lower-income neighborhoods. Now comes a new study from the National Bureau of Economic Research that says, quite bluntly. that the CRA played a major role.


In the academic world, mealy-mouthed delivery of even powerful conclusions is the norm, so it's refreshing to see authors Sumit Agarwal, Efraim Benmelech, Nittai Bergman, Amit Seru answer the title's question, "Did the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) Lead to Risky Lending? (http://www.nber.org/papers/w18609)," with the clear, "Yes, it did. ... We find that adherence to the act led to riskier lending by banks." The full abstract reads:


Yes, it did. We use exogenous variation in banks’ incentives to conform to the standards of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) around regulatory exam dates to trace out the effect of the CRA on lending activity. Our empirical strategy compares lending behavior of banks undergoing CRA exams within a given census tract in a given month to the behavior of banks operating in the same census tract-month that do not face these exams. We find that adherence to the act led to riskier lending by banks: in the six quarters surrounding the CRA exams lending is elevated on average by about 5 percent every quarter and loans in these quarters default by about 15 percent more often. These patterns are accentuated in CRA-eligible census tracts and are concentrated among large banks. The effects are strongest during the time period when the market for private securitization was booming.


Investors Business Daily does a very nice job of summarizing the nature of the pressure brought on lenders (http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/122012-637924-faults-community-reinvestment-act-cra-mortgage-defaults.htm) (that's IBD's most excellent graphic, above):
"We want your CRA loans because they help us meet our housing goals," Fannie Vice Chair Jamie Gorelick beseeched lenders gathered at a banking conference in 2000, just after HUD hiked the mortgage giant's affordable housing quotas to 50% and pressed it to buy more CRA-eligible loans to help meet those new targets. "We will buy them from your portfolios or package them into securities."

She described "CRA-friendly products" as mortgages with less than "3% down" and "flexible underwriting."

From 2001-2007, Fannie and Freddie bought roughly half of all CRA home loans, most carrying subprime features.


Note that the authors of the study caution that their work here may actually understate the impact of the CRA. How? Because the study assumes that the major impact of CRA took place when banks were undergoing examination regarding their compliance with CRA goals. If banks found it difficult to shift gears in preparation for such exams, they may have altered their overall behavior to satisfy politicians and regulators. Or, as the authors put it in their conclusion, "If adjustment costs in lending behavior are large and banks can’t easily tilt their loan portfolio toward greater CRA compliance, the full impact of the CRA is potentially much greater than that estimated by the change in lending behavior around CRA exams."

The housing meltdown and the Great Recession. Something else for which you can thank the feds.


http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/21/study-says-community-reinvestment-act-in

fj1200
06-06-2013, 06:55 AM
Government or self- regulations?
Financial industries’ self regulation?

Cliff notes please.

red states rule
06-06-2013, 01:08 PM
http://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/fannie-freddie.jpg