Obama Debates Obama on Massive Surveillance of Americans

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Thanks to Al Gore's Amazing internet (he claimed he invented it so I want to give proper credit) we can now watch Candidate Obama debate Pres Obama on the NSA surveillance issue



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7BmdovYztH8

[Marcus Aurelius]

"That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are."

President Obama was absolutely correct. That is not who 'we' are.

It's who 'he' is.

[revelarts]

I say half-accurately because they have intentionally provided a wrong date. They have known about this particular illegal operation, in addition to several other equally explosive illegalities, since 2005; thanks to long-ignored truth-telling NSA whistleblowers.
As the founder and director of National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (http://nswbc.org/) I became aware of at least two NSA truth-tellers who tried to alert Congress and the US media to these illegal government operations. I personally assisted them in their desperate attempts to reach and brief the appropriate congressional offices.
I can only divulge the identity of one of these NSA witnesses who courageously came forward publicly-and dearly paid the price for doing so. As for the others-their internal battles continue to date.
On December 22, 2005, I made public the following press release (http://nswbc.org/Press%20Releases/NSA-RussTice.htm) (the release was sent to all appropriate congressional offices and spineless members of the US mainstream media):
Former NSA Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer Urges to be Heard by Congress Regarding Unlawful Conduct by NSA
Russ Tice, former National Security Agency (NSA) intelligence analyst and action officer, has sent the following two letters to the chairs of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees. Mr. Tice intends to report to Congress probable unlawful and unconstitutional acts conducted while he was an intelligence officer with the National Security Agency (NSA) and with the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). These acts involved the Director of the National Security Agency, the Deputies Chief of Staff for Air and Space Operations, and the U.S. Secretary of Defense, and were conducted via very highly sensitive intelligence programs and operations known as Special Access Programs (SAP). SAP programs and operations are more commonly referred to as “black world” programs and operations. Mr. Tice was a technical intelligence specialist dealing almost exclusively with SAP programs and operations at both NSA and DIA.
Mr. Tice stated: “As a Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) officer it is continually drilled into us that the very first law chiseled in the SIGINT equivalent of the Ten Commandments (USSID-18) is that Thou shall not spy on American persons without a court order from FISA. This law is continually drilled into each NSA intelligence officer throughout his or her career. The very people that lead the National Security Agency have violated this holy edict of SIGINT.” A pivotal question in this case is whether Americans were being spied on via a vacuum cleaner approach wherein vast amounts of information are sucked in. FISA warrants require a name of the target and would not cover such a mass approach. He also added: “In addition to knowing this fundamental commandment of not violating the civil rights of Americans, intelligence officers are required to take an oath to protect the United States Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic. It is with my oath as a US intelligence officer weighing heavy on my mind that I wish to report to congress acts that I believe are unlawful and unconstitutional. The freedom of the American people cannot be protected when our constitutional liberties are ignored and our nation has decayed into a police state.”
“These actions by the current administration are a compulsion to secrecy, an expansive view of presidential authority, and reluctance to answer to the people and Congress. Woodrow Wilson, himself no novice concerning secrecy, claimed that it is a ‘fair presumption that secrecy means impropriety’. That is a presumption that we have been called upon to suspend in the name of national security, but with recent disclosures that suspended judgment appears to have been unwise. We urge the congress to hold hearings and let patriotic witnesses like Russ Tice testify,” stated Sibel Edmonds, the director of National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC).
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To read the entire press release and our letters to the US Congress Click Here (http://nswbc.org/Press%20Releases/NSA-RussTice.htm)
So what does all this tell us?
That the Executive Branch of the United States of America has been illegally and continuously engaged in surveillance of all its citizens.
That the United States Congress has been briefed and reported on this illegal-unconstitutional surveillance, and has readily gone along with it- as collaborators.
That the United States Federal Courts have been sitting on the side-lines, and allowing the continuation of the illegal-unconstitutional surveillance of United States Citizens.
That the media in the United States has firmly positioned itself as government- collaborators in this illegal-unconstitutional practice against the citizens of the United States.
And finally … that the citizens of the United States of America are in a position to decide to act or not to act against this Four-Branch-Police State.
- See more at: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/06/07/the-united-states-of-america-a-four-branch-police-state/#sthash.fqnbHMLN.dpuf

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