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Little-Acorn
06-13-2013, 11:22 AM
And the hits just keep on comin'.

Yes, you read that right. When lawmakers found out that they themselves would soon be subject to the same Obamacare rules and restrictions that they forced on everyone else, they started running like rabbits.

It's unfair, they are saying, it's destructive to our employees, the way we do business will be drastically affected as people quit or retire as a result of these new rules! Why, our insurance rates are going to skyrocket! And we won't get nearly as good care as we're used to!

And, inevitably, some of them are looking to make or extend a rule exempting themselves from the Obamacare they voted to impose on everyone else.

You can't make this stuff up, folks. Conservatives are just sitting back and shaking their head in weary disbelief. Somehow, "We told you so" just doesn't cover it.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/obamacare-lawmakers-health-insurance-92691.html#ixzz2W63muxJO

Obamacare? We were just leaving …

by ANNA PALMER and JAKE SHERMAN
6/13/13 5:13 AM EDT

Dozens of lawmakers and aides are so afraid that their health insurance premiums will skyrocket next year thanks to Obamacare that they are thinking about retiring early or just quitting.

The fear: Government-subsidized premiums will disappear at the end of the year under a provision in the health care law that nudges aides and lawmakers onto the government health care exchanges, which could make their benefits exorbitantly expensive.

Democratic and Republican leaders are taking the issue seriously, but first they need more specifics from the Office of Personnel Management on how the new rule should take effect — a decision that Capitol Hill sources expect by fall, at the latest. The administration has clammed up in advance of a ruling, sources on both sides of the aisle said.

If the issue isn’t resolved, and massive numbers of lawmakers and aides bolt, many on Capitol Hill fear it could lead to a brain drain just as Congress tackles a slew of weighty issues — like fights over the Tax Code and immigration reform.

The problem is far more acute in the House, where lawmakers and aides are generally younger and less wealthy. Sources said several aides have already given lawmakers notice that they’ll be leaving over concerns about Obamacare. Republican and Democratic lawmakers said the chatter about retiring now, to remain on the current health care plan, is constant.

Rep. John Larson, a Connecticut Democrat in leadership when the law passed, said he thinks the problem will be resolved.

“If not, I think we should begin an immediate amicus brief to say, ‘Listen this is simply not fair to these employees,’” Larson told POLITICO. “They are federal employees.”

Little-Acorn
06-13-2013, 11:51 AM
Obamacare contains something called the "Grassley Amendment", which required Congress to obey the same Obamacare restrictions the rest of us were getting.

The mere fact that that amendment was even needed, tells you all you need to know about what Congress really thought of Obamacare and what it would do, even as they voted on it.

Needless to say, Congress is quietly trying to repeal that part of the law. Yes, NOW.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/04/25/congress-fearing-brain-drain-seeks-to-opt-out-of-participating-in-obamacares-exchanges/

Congress, Fearing 'Brain Drain,' Seeks to Opt Out of Participating in Obamacare's Exchanges

Avik Roy, Contributor
4/25/2013 @ 10:41AM

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) authored the Obamacare amendment requiring that members of Congress and their staff participate in the law's insurance exchanges. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

As Obamacare was winding its way through the Senate in 2009, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) slipped in an amendment requiring that members of Congress, and their staff, enroll in Obamacare’s health insurance exchanges. The idea was simple: that if Congress was going to impose Obamacare upon the country, it should have to experience what it is imposing firsthand.

But now, word comes that Congress is quietly seeking to rescind that provision of the law, because members fear that staffers who face higher insurance costs will leave the Hill. The news has sparked outrage from the right and left. Here’s the back story, and why this debate is crucial to the future of market-based health reform.

Sen. Grassley’s original idea was to require all federal employees to enroll in the exchanges, instead of in the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, where most gain coverage today. Indeed, a previous Senate Finance Committee amendment proposed putting members and staffers on Medicaid. But “fierce opposition from federal employee unions” sank Grassley’s effort, and he had to water his amendment down to only apply to Congress and congressional staff.

Thunderknuckles
06-13-2013, 12:04 PM
“If not, I think we should begin an immediate amicus brief to say, ‘Listen this is simply not fair to these employees,’” Larson told POLITICO. “They are federal employees.”
That sentence alone says it all. Larson clearly views Washingtoin as the Castle, Obama the King, federal employees the lords and the ladies, while the rest of us are just peasants working the fields who should be content with the scraps we are given.

Marcus Aurelius
06-13-2013, 01:07 PM
That sentence alone says it all. Larson clearly views Washingtoin as the Castle, Obama the King, federal employees the lords and the ladies, while the rest of us are just peasants working the fields who should be content with the scraps we are given.

you beat me to it. It's fair for everyone EXCEPT federal employees? What makes them so fucking special?

Little-Acorn
06-13-2013, 01:49 PM
My own personal favorite is where one of these people points out how terrible the legislation is, how bad the effects are... and in the next breath says that if the people who wrote it quit, that would be a BAD thing. A "brain drain" was the term he used.

Wouldn't it be a GOOD thing if Congress were drained of the "brains" who came up with this legislation they all hate so much?

aboutime
06-13-2013, 03:27 PM
Really, kind of IRONIC, when you think about it. All of those who so fully supported, and voted for OBAMA...with OBAMACARE....now? Suddenly feeling remorse, or betrayed by their OWN IGNORANCE???

Go figure. Maybe this will take the place of the TERM LIMITS most of us have been pushing to have enacted????

Poor, Dummies. Finally getting BIT by their own STUPIDITY????

red states rule
06-14-2013, 02:56 AM
you beat me to it. It's fair for everyone EXCEPT federal employees? What makes them so fucking special?

Be prepared to incur the wrath of Darin for that comment :laugh2:

red states rule
06-14-2013, 02:58 AM
Really, kind of IRONIC, when you think about it. All of those who so fully supported, and voted for OBAMA...with OBAMACARE....now? Suddenly feeling remorse, or betrayed by their OWN IGNORANCE???

Go figure. Maybe this will take the place of the TERM LIMITS most of us have been pushing to have enacted????

Poor, Dummies. Finally getting BIT by their own STUPIDITY????

Amazing how we are hearing nothing from our resident liberals and those who once sang the praises of those Obamacare exchanges

As usual, libs are happy to impose their will on us the serfs tending the fields - while they exempt themselves from the same rules

red states rule
06-14-2013, 03:18 AM
Obamacare contains something called the "Grassley Amendment", which required Congress to obey the same Obamacare restrictions the rest of us were getting.

The mere fact that that amendment was even needed, tells you all you need to know about what Congress really thought of Obamacare and what it would do, even as they voted on it.

Needless to say, Congress is quietly trying to repeal that part of the law. Yes, NOW.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/04/25/congress-fearing-brain-drain-seeks-to-opt-out-of-participating-in-obamacares-exchanges/

Congress, Fearing 'Brain Drain,' Seeks to Opt Out of Participating in Obamacare's Exchanges

Avik Roy, Contributor
4/25/2013 @ 10:41AM

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) authored the Obamacare amendment requiring that members of Congress and their staff participate in the law's insurance exchanges. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

As Obamacare was winding its way through the Senate in 2009, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) slipped in an amendment requiring that members of Congress, and their staff, enroll in Obamacare’s health insurance exchanges. The idea was simple: that if Congress was going to impose Obamacare upon the country, it should have to experience what it is imposing firsthand.

But now, word comes that Congress is quietly seeking to rescind that provision of the law, because members fear that staffers who face higher insurance costs will leave the Hill. The news has sparked outrage from the right and left. Here’s the back story, and why this debate is crucial to the future of market-based health reform.

Sen. Grassley’s original idea was to require all federal employees to enroll in the exchanges, instead of in the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, where most gain coverage today. Indeed, a previous Senate Finance Committee amendment proposed putting members and staffers on Medicaid. But “fierce opposition from federal employee unions” sank Grassley’s effort, and he had to water his amendment down to only apply to Congress and congressional staff.

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Marcus Aurelius
06-14-2013, 07:23 AM
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you beat me to it. It's fair for everyone EXCEPT federal employees? What makes them so fucking special?



Be prepared to incur the wrath of Darin for that comment :laugh2:

I can take Dick York or Dick Sargent in a fair fight.

aboutime
06-14-2013, 03:44 PM
I can take Dick York or Dick Sargent in a fair fight.


Don't forget Larry....5132 But I'd prefer Jeannie!!! 5133

red states rule
06-19-2013, 02:47 AM
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