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Marcus Aurelius
06-19-2013, 10:51 PM
i'm a little troubled bu this... you?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/06/salinas_v_texas_right_to_remain_silent_supreme_cou rt_right_to_remain_silent.html


At trial, Salinas did not testify, but prosecutors described his reportedly uncomfortable reaction to the question about his shotgun. Salinas argued this violated his Fifth Amendment rights: He had remained silent, and the Supreme Court had previously made clear that prosecutors can’t bring up a defendant’s refusal to answer the state’s questions. This time around, however, Justice Samuel Alito blithely responded that Salinas was “free to leave” and did not assert his right to remain silent. He was silent. But somehow, without a lawyer, and without being told his rights, he should have affirmatively “invoked” his right to not answer questions. Two other justices signed on to Alito’s opinion. Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice Antonin Scalia joined the judgment, but for a different reason; they think Salinas had no rights at all to invoke before his arrest (they also object to Miranda itself (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/99-5525.ZD.html)). The upshot is another terrible Roberts Court ruling on confessions. In 2010 the court held that a suspect did not sufficiently invoke the right to remain silent (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/08-1470) when he stubbornly refused to talk, after receiving his Miranda warnings, during two hours of questioning. Now people have to somehow invoke the right to remain silent even when they’re not formal suspects and they haven’t been heard the Mirandawarnings.


The Supreme Court’s decision in Salinas encourages the kind of loosey-goosey, and easily contaminated, police questioning that led to Yarris’ wrongful conviction. Salinas may very well have been guilty of the two murders. But in many cases, as in this one, there are no eyewitnesses and not much other evidence of guilt: That is why the police may desperately need a confession. And that makes it crucial for them to handle interrogations and confessions with the utmost care. The court appreciated none of the pressures police face, and how they can squeeze an innocent suspect. Alito and the other conservatives werenot troubled that there was no video to confirm that Salinas was in fact uncomfortable as well as silent. If Salinas had answered the question by exclaiming that he was innocent, could police have reported that he sounded desperate and like a liar? The court’s new ruling puts the “defendant in an impossible predicament. He must either answer the question or remain silent,” Justice Stephen Breyer said in dissent (joined by the other three liberal-moderates). “If he answers the question, he may well reveal, for example, prejudicial facts, disreputable associates, or suspicious circumstances—even if he is innocent.” But if he doesn’t answer, at trial, police and prosecutors can now take advantage of his silence, or perhaps even of just pausing or fidgeting.


Questions first, rights later is the approach the court’s majority now endorses.

logroller
06-20-2013, 12:13 AM
While I am troubled by this, the fact of the matter is he wasnt in custody and had the right to leave. It sucks his saying nothing said something; but it's not like that was the central piece of evidence against. The gun in question did match the ballistics (and there was a witness). And quite frankly, who goes to a police station to answer questions when their gun's ballistics match a double murder?

revelarts
06-20-2013, 01:50 AM
If the supreme court said it's the law then it's the law. deal with it. they love us.
what are u complaining about? Don't you want the police to ask questions and catch the bad guys that they intuit with their superpowers?

It the law. now so suck it up or change the law.

If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.
just do what the police say and answer all their questions. stop being so paranoid folks.
what's the problem?
potheads