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jimnyc
06-23-2013, 03:13 PM
Awesome. They should make sure every terrorist taken out is due to one of these. And if not, at least shoot him again once dead and maybe stick a few of these in his pocket. And even if not realistically keeping them from their paradise, it would still be good old fashioned fun to poke a few holes in a terror animal. Hell, they won't mind, they like to blow holes in themselves eventually anyway.


SPOKANE, Wash. — Still angry about the idea of an Islamic cultural center opening near Ground Zero, a group of Idaho gun enthusiasts decided to fight back with a new line of pork-laced bullets.

South Fork Industries, based in Dalton Gardens, Idaho, claims its ammunition, called Jihawg Ammo, is a “defensive deterrent to those who violently act in the name of Islam.”

The bullets are coated in pork-infused paint, which the company states makes the ammo “haram,” or unclean, and therefore will keep a Muslim who’s shot with one of the bullets from entering paradise.

“With Jihawg Ammo, you don’t just kill an Islamist terrorist, you also send him to hell. That should give would-be martyrs something to think about before they launch an attack. If it ever becomes necessary to defend yourself and those around you our ammo works on two levels,” the company said in a press release earlier this month.

The company’s website bills the bullets as “Peace Through Pork” and a “peaceful and natural deterrent to radical Islam.” There’s a related line of apparel that feature slogans like “Put Some Ham in MoHAMed” and a target poster that says “Give Em a Spankin with some Bacon.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/pork-laced-bullets-designed-to-send-muslims-straight-to-hell/2013/06/21/aff2247a-daaa-11e2-b418-9dfa095e125d_story.html

aboutime
06-23-2013, 03:25 PM
Awesome. They should make sure every terrorist taken out is due to one of these. And if not, at least shoot him again once dead and maybe stick a few of these in his pocket. And even if not realistically keeping them from their paradise, it would still be good old fashioned fun to poke a few holes in a terror animal. Hell, they won't mind, they like to blow holes in themselves eventually anyway.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/pork-laced-bullets-designed-to-send-muslims-straight-to-hell/2013/06/21/aff2247a-daaa-11e2-b418-9dfa095e125d_story.html


We could save even more money by just loading a C-130 Gunship with PALLETS of PORK RINDS, ready for dumping out of the rear of the plane.
Throw in some Hot Dogs, Ribs, Bacon, and pictures of 5170 and 5171 they'd commit suicide.

Voted4Reagan
06-23-2013, 03:41 PM
http://www.onislam.net/english/oimedia/onislamen/images/mainimages/US%20Company%20Produces%20Pork-Laced%20Bullets.jpg

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-23-2013, 05:25 PM
Awesome. They should make sure every terrorist taken out is due to one of these. And if not, at least shoot him again once dead and maybe stick a few of these in his pocket. And even if not realistically keeping them from their paradise, it would still be good old fashioned fun to poke a few holes in a terror animal. Hell, they won't mind, they like to blow holes in themselves eventually anyway.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/pork-laced-bullets-designed-to-send-muslims-straight-to-hell/2013/06/21/aff2247a-daaa-11e2-b418-9dfa095e125d_story.html Bout time somebody took an active step to give them something to fear.. -Tyr

gabosaurus
06-23-2013, 06:23 PM
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5974340864/h031CE771/

jafar00
06-24-2013, 12:34 AM
Imagine the outrage if instead of Muslims, the group openly called for the killing of Jews with pork laced bullets?

Also, someone should tell them that pork laced bullets would not affect martyrdom before the hate completely consumes their little minds.

jimnyc
06-24-2013, 06:12 AM
Imagine the outrage if instead of Muslims, the group openly called for the killing of Jews with pork laced bullets?

Also, someone should tell them that pork laced bullets would not affect martyrdom before the hate completely consumes their little minds.

They would be VIOLENT jews, if not terrorists, and it would be just fine with me that way too. You're talking of martyrdom for the violent and terrorists - but point out the hate of others.

PostmodernProphet
06-24-2013, 06:51 AM
works on vegans too.....

jafar00
06-24-2013, 07:11 AM
They would be VIOLENT jews, if not terrorists, and it would be just fine with me that way too. You're talking of martyrdom for the violent and terrorists - but point out the hate of others.

I'm sure if I started posting stuff advocating violence against any Jews, even if it was the violent ones, I would be piled upon.

So you support Palestinian attacks on illegal Israeli settlements then?

Voted4Reagan
06-24-2013, 07:30 AM
I'm sure if I started posting stuff advocating violence against any Jews, even if it was the violent ones, I would be piled upon.

So you support Palestinian attacks on illegal Israeli settlements then?

See...here is the problem Jafar...

You already advocate violence against Jews by your support for Hamas, which you yourself have confirmed.

If you want tolerance... you better practice Tolerance.

Explain to all of us why the Jews have tolerance for the Arab and Palestinian people living in Israel.

Explain to us why the Jews have allowed all the holy sites of the Islamic people to remain standing.

Explain to us why Israel goes out of it's way to protect ancient mosques built in the 15th century throughout Israel.

and then...

Explain to us how it is permissible for Arab Countries to destroy all the facets of Jewish Culture that existed in the Arab World up until the Pan-Arabic radicals took over in the 1920's. Tell us why the Synagogues were destroyed, the people forced from cities that they had lived in for centuries. Tell us how you condone the Genocidal policies of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Mohammad Amin al-Husayni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni) and his allegiance to the Third Reich and his founding of the Muslim Brotherhood and the PLO. Also how out of this convicted War criminal arose HAMAS as an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Israelis have offered Peace, Land and Friendship from 1947 to today.

The only thing they have recieved in return are LIES and False promises as well as attacks on Civilians.

Tell us all how the Arabs have contributed to Peace...

when for 80+ years they have sought the Genocide of the Jewish People.

I commend Anwar Sadat of Egypt and King Hussein and Queen Noor of Jordan for their actions. They put aside all of the old hatred and prospered from it.

Peace brought them prosperity and cooperation...

Drummond
06-24-2013, 02:46 PM
I'm sure if I started posting stuff advocating violence against any Jews, even if it was the violent ones, I would be piled upon.

So you support Palestinian attacks on illegal Israeli settlements then?

You've already had an excellent response to the above quote, Jafar.

But consider that what prompted the debate was, I'm sure, a reaction to all the terrorism meted out by Muslims, who, though you'd doubtless do all you could to distance from what you want to sell us about your understanding of Islam, are nonetheless MUSLIM TERRORISTS.

Jews, however, are not terrorists. They are not perpetrators - but, certainly as a race, victims. Indeed, I marvel daily at their enormous restraint in the face of the massive provocations they've had in the past.

aboutime
06-24-2013, 02:57 PM
I'm sure if I started posting stuff advocating violence against any Jews, even if it was the violent ones, I would be piled upon.

So you support Palestinian attacks on illegal Israeli settlements then?


Jafar.This is dedicated to your double-talk, and double-standards intended to preclude your known proclivities to lie so much.
You win....... 5174

jafar00
06-24-2013, 09:58 PM
Jews, however, are not terrorists. They are not perpetrators - but, certainly as a race, victims.

Therein lies the problem. Because of holocaust propaganda, a lot of people can't see past it to criticise some of the things they do.

Not terrorists? Never heard of Haganah, Stern Gang, "Settlers", or IDF?

Gaffer
06-24-2013, 10:14 PM
Therein lies the problem. Because of holocaust propaganda, a lot of people can't see past it to criticise some of the things they do.

Not terrorists? Never heard of Haganah, Stern Gang, "Settlers", or IDF?

So the Holocaust was propaganda and "settlers" and the IDF aka Israeli military are terrorists? Your brain has really been twisted jafar. You continue to amaze me.

gabosaurus
06-24-2013, 11:00 PM
Some of you people must have pork for brains.

jimnyc
06-25-2013, 09:22 AM
So the Holocaust was propaganda

Anytime definitive proof is shown, like videos or pictures of the tons of abuse coming from Palestinians, for example, or his beloved Hamas - he also will claim it's propaganda and setup. He talks about hate sites and such when it comes to others posting things about Muslims. Thing is, the majority of these things are legit stories, pictures, articles and such. As for Jafar, never mind a website, he just simply hates Jews. He may be more polite than others, or write better, but hate is hate.

Abbey Marie
06-25-2013, 09:25 AM
So the Holocaust was propaganda and "settlers" and the IDF aka Israeli military are terrorists? Your brain has really been twisted jafar. You continue to amaze me.

I have recently heard that Muslims are now trying to say the Temple of Jerusalem was fictitious too.

Marcus Aurelius
06-25-2013, 09:32 AM
Therein lies the problem. Because of holocaust propaganda, a lot of people can't see past it to criticise some of the things they do.

Not terrorists? Never heard of Haganah, Stern Gang, "Settlers", or IDF?

Are you 'really' going to go back to your old 'the Red Cross denied anything ever happened in Germany' nonsense about the Holocaust? I already showed you where the Red Cross changed their story and said it DID happen. Propaganda my left testicle.

Marcus Aurelius
06-25-2013, 09:33 AM
I have recently heard that Muslims are now trying to say the Temple of Jerusalem was fictitious too.

That isn't 'really' the Western Wall.

aboutime
06-25-2013, 12:20 PM
Are you 'really' going to go back to your old 'the Red Cross denied anything ever happened in Germany' nonsense about the Holocaust? I already showed you where the Red Cross changed their story and said it DID happen. Propaganda my left testicle.


Marcus. :lol: What more could any of us ask from jafar? Without knowing, or understanding what he is talking about, or what he has mistakenly admitted.

Jafar just presented all of us that STRAW...the literally broke HIS CAMEL's Back.
THANK YOU JAFAR....a picture really does say 1000 words.
5180

jimnyc
06-25-2013, 02:23 PM
Are you 'really' going to go back to your old 'the Red Cross denied anything ever happened in Germany' nonsense about the Holocaust? I already showed you where the Red Cross changed their story and said it DID happen. Propaganda my left testicle.

International Committee of the Red Cross Holocaust deniers misrepresent and omit information contained in ICRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Committee_of_the_Red_Cross) reports that contradict their claims.[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt114-42) Critics argue that Richard Harwood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Verrall_%28political_writer%29) in his "Did Six Million Really Die? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Did_Six_Million_Really_Die%3F)" pamphlet could only claim that the ICRC had found no evidence of a policy to exterminate Jews by ignoring key sections of the 1948 report, where the ICRC explicitly states that the systematic extermination of Jews was Nazi policy.[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt114-5-43)
Harwood disputed the notion that homicidal gas chambers were disguised as shower facilities by citing references in the report where ICRC officials inspected bathing facilities. He used their responses to argue that showers functioned as showers and were not part of a killing installation. However this is considered misrepresentation by critics, as the passage Harwood cited is in reference to Allied camps for civilians in Egypt and thus had nothing to do with Nazi concentration camps.[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt115-44)


Harwood also claimed that Die Tat, a Swiss tabloid newspaper, published statistics that concluded the number of people who died in Nazi prisons and camps from 1939 to 1945 based on ICRC statistics was "300,000, not all of whom were Jews".[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt116-45) The January 19, 1955 edition of Die Tat did indeed give a 300,000 figure, but this was only in reference to "Germans and German Jews" and not nationals of other countries.[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt117-46) In a 1979 response to this pamphlet, the ICRC said that they have "never tried to compile statistics on the victims of the war",[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-icrc300000-47) nor "certified the accuracy of the statistics produced by a third party",[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-icrc300000-47) and state that the authors of such material have "falsified" both claims that the document originates from the ICRC and refers exclusively to Jews.[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-icrc300000-47)
As well as in personal correspondence, the ICRC has also addressed this misrepresentation by several other means. In 1975, the ICRC wrote to the Board of Deputies of British Jews in London regarding Harwood's citations, stating:

The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-48)
—Françoise Perret, <cite>Comité International de la Croix-Rouge, to Jacob Gerwitz, August 22, 1975.</cite>
In the 1978 official bulletin, the agency stated that its mission was to "help victims not count them",[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) and questioned how they would have even been able to obtain such statistics had they wanted to, given that they were "only able to enter only a few concentration camps...in the final days of the war".[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) The agency states that the figures used are "the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Tracing_Service) on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed",[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) and accordingly bear no relation to the total death tolls, since the Nazis destroyed much documentation, and that many deaths occurred in camps where prisoners were generally not registered.[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) The ICRC considers this misrepresentation as "propaganda",[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) and because these claims regarding the ICRC were used for the defense of Ernst Zündel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Z%C3%BCndel) at his trial in 1985, critics state that despite the agency's attempts to demonstrate the truth, Holocaust deniers have continued to rely on ICRC based disinformation.[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt117-46) Archives of the International Tracing Service (located in Bad Arolsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Arolsen)) responding to such misrepresentation can be found here.[50] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-50)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#International_Commit tee_of_the_Red_Cross

Marcus Aurelius
06-25-2013, 02:35 PM
International Committee of the Red Cross

Holocaust deniers misrepresent and omit information contained in ICRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Committee_of_the_Red_Cross) reports that contradict their claims.[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt114-42) Critics argue that Richard Harwood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Verrall_%28political_writer%29) in his "Did Six Million Really Die? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Did_Six_Million_Really_Die%3F)" pamphlet could only claim that the ICRC had found no evidence of a policy to exterminate Jews by ignoring key sections of the 1948 report, where the ICRC explicitly states that the systematic extermination of Jews was Nazi policy.[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt114-5-43)
Harwood disputed the notion that homicidal gas chambers were disguised as shower facilities by citing references in the report where ICRC officials inspected bathing facilities. He used their responses to argue that showers functioned as showers and were not part of a killing installation. However this is considered misrepresentation by critics, as the passage Harwood cited is in reference to Allied camps for civilians in Egypt and thus had nothing to do with Nazi concentration camps.[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt115-44)


Harwood also claimed that Die Tat, a Swiss tabloid newspaper, published statistics that concluded the number of people who died in Nazi prisons and camps from 1939 to 1945 based on ICRC statistics was "300,000, not all of whom were Jews".[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt116-45) The January 19, 1955 edition of Die Tat did indeed give a 300,000 figure, but this was only in reference to "Germans and German Jews" and not nationals of other countries.[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt117-46) In a 1979 response to this pamphlet, the ICRC said that they have "never tried to compile statistics on the victims of the war",[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-icrc300000-47) nor "certified the accuracy of the statistics produced by a third party",[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-icrc300000-47) and state that the authors of such material have "falsified" both claims that the document originates from the ICRC and refers exclusively to Jews.[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-icrc300000-47)
As well as in personal correspondence, the ICRC has also addressed this misrepresentation by several other means. In 1975, the ICRC wrote to the Board of Deputies of British Jews in London regarding Harwood's citations, stating:
The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-48)
—Françoise Perret, <cite>Comité International de la Croix-Rouge, to Jacob Gerwitz, August 22, 1975.</cite>

In the 1978 official bulletin, the agency stated that its mission was to "help victims not count them",[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) and questioned how they would have even been able to obtain such statistics had they wanted to, given that they were "only able to enter only a few concentration camps...in the final days of the war".[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) The agency states that the figures used are "the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Tracing_Service) on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed",[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) and accordingly bear no relation to the total death tolls, since the Nazis destroyed much documentation, and that many deaths occurred in camps where prisoners were generally not registered.[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) The ICRC considers this misrepresentation as "propaganda",[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Bulletin25-49) and because these claims regarding the ICRC were used for the defense of Ernst Zündel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Z%C3%BCndel) at his trial in 1985, critics state that despite the agency's attempts to demonstrate the truth, Holocaust deniers have continued to rely on ICRC based disinformation.[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-Lipstadt117-46) Archives of the International Tracing Service (located in Bad Arolsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Arolsen)) responding to such misrepresentation can be found here.[50] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#cite_note-50)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#International_Commit tee_of_the_Red_Cross

And of course, now that they no longer agree with him, Jahil will brand the red Cross an Islamic hate site.

aboutime
06-25-2013, 02:41 PM
Marcus. Along this same line about Pork. I have an email friend who forwarded a message about
how to prevent a Mosque from being built in his neighborhood, or community.

Oddly enough. All it involves is getting a Deceased Pig, and finding a place to bury it, with a small cross, and gravestone.

The Resting Place of a PIG should be made known to any Muslim, or Islamist who might be thinking, or planning on
erecting a Mosque.

Just knowing the ground has become Contaminated by the remains of a PIG...should be justification NOT to build.

Just a thought for anyone who may be confronted with such things in the future.

Personally. I find it a very subtle way, and effective as well.

jafar00
06-25-2013, 10:17 PM
So the Holocaust was propaganda and "settlers" and the IDF aka Israeli military are terrorists? Your brain has really been twisted jafar. You continue to amaze me.

By holocaust propaganda I mean the way it has been used to hold a guilt axe over our heads for so long that some of us are afraid to criticise Israel for fear of being branded anti-semitic. In some countries, that can also mean being imprisoned. It seems that for some, Israel can do no wrong. I was recently told by a Christian that the Jews are "the chosen people" which is why they can do as they like without expecting any criticism. I disagree.

The settlers are terrorists as they set up their settlements illegally on Palestinian land, and attack and harass the nearby Palestinians by shooting at them, filling in or poisoning their wells, throwing rocks and abuse at them, burning their plantations etc.... Is that not terrorism?

The IDF are state sponsored terrorists. Is herding a family into a building so you can bomb them all together in one place, then blocking any medical attention for the survivors of the bombing not terrorism?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitoun_incident

I guess it's not terrorism when Muslims are the target.

gabosaurus
06-25-2013, 11:03 PM
Why does the Holocaust have to do with Muslims anyway? Last time I checked, Hitler was not a Muslim. He was merely anti-semitic. If you are American, a lot of your ancestors were anti-semitic. Including many of this nation's founding fathers.

<dl></dl>"They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."

--George Washington

http://rense.com/general25/anti.htm

Gaffer
06-26-2013, 08:24 AM
By holocaust propaganda I mean the way it has been used to hold a guilt axe over our heads for so long that some of us are afraid to criticise Israel for fear of being branded anti-semitic. In some countries, that can also mean being imprisoned. It seems that for some, Israel can do no wrong. I was recently told by a Christian that the Jews are "the chosen people" which is why they can do as they like without expecting any criticism. I disagree.

The settlers are terrorists as they set up their settlements illegally on Palestinian land, and attack and harass the nearby Palestinians by shooting at them, filling in or poisoning their wells, throwing rocks and abuse at them, burning their plantations etc.... Is that not terrorism?

The IDF are state sponsored terrorists. Is herding a family into a building so you can bomb them all together in one place, then blocking any medical attention for the survivors of the bombing not terrorism?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitoun_incident

I guess it's not terrorism when Muslims are the target.

More propaganda and not even close to the truth. Repeating the lie isn't going to make it true.

aboutime
06-26-2013, 02:28 PM
By holocaust propaganda I mean the way it has been used to hold a guilt axe over our heads for so long that some of us are afraid to criticise Israel for fear of being branded anti-semitic. In some countries, that can also mean being imprisoned. It seems that for some, Israel can do no wrong. I was recently told by a Christian that the Jews are "the chosen people" which is why they can do as they like without expecting any criticism. I disagree.

The settlers are terrorists as they set up their settlements illegally on Palestinian land, and attack and harass the nearby Palestinians by shooting at them, filling in or poisoning their wells, throwing rocks and abuse at them, burning their plantations etc.... Is that not terrorism?

The IDF are state sponsored terrorists. Is herding a family into a building so you can bomb them all together in one place, then blocking any medical attention for the survivors of the bombing not terrorism?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitoun_incident

I guess it's not terrorism when Muslims are the target.


JAFAR. From reading your endless tripe above. You could almost change the wording above to fit the SLAVERY of America's Black people in the very same way.
Do you hear any Black Americans DENYING their ancestors took part in Slavery????

jafar00
06-26-2013, 08:19 PM
More propaganda and not even close to the truth. Repeating the lie isn't going to make it true.

6 million.
Correct.
Repeating it didn't make it any truer.

aboutime
06-26-2013, 08:27 PM
6 million.
Correct.
Repeating it didn't make it any truer.


jafar. Just wondering. Did you happen to be one of the authors of our Democrat National Committee Talking Points Manual?

You seem so programmed, brainwashed, and totally convinced that providing false facts, and calling them truth. You could qualify to lead the American Communist, Democrat, Leftist, National Ignorance Committee. And win a Life membership to their Olympic Pool, where you can choose the flavor of the Kool-aid...you prefer to swim in.

Gaffer
06-27-2013, 07:26 AM
6 million.
Correct.
Repeating it didn't make it any truer.

Six million was the low estimate. Also add in the gypsies, homos and mentally retarded, anyone caught helping a Jew, people who "looked" Jewish. The Jews were just the first in a long list of ethnic groups to be eradicated, including muslims.

jafar00
06-27-2013, 04:15 PM
Six million was the low estimate. Also add in the gypsies, homos and mentally retarded, anyone caught helping a Jew, people who "looked" Jewish. The Jews were just the first in a long list of ethnic groups to be eradicated, including muslims.

The 6 million figure comes from Jewish scripture. It is the number of dead required for them to theologically return to Israel. However mass graves of 6 million bodies have yet to be found.

Drummond
06-27-2013, 04:22 PM
By holocaust propaganda I mean the way it has been used to hold a guilt axe over our heads for so long that some of us are afraid to criticise Israel for fear of being branded anti-semitic. In some countries, that can also mean being imprisoned. It seems that for some, Israel can do no wrong. I was recently told by a Christian that the Jews are "the chosen people" which is why they can do as they like without expecting any criticism. I disagree.

The settlers are terrorists as they set up their settlements illegally on Palestinian land, and attack and harass the nearby Palestinians by shooting at them, filling in or poisoning their wells, throwing rocks and abuse at them, burning their plantations etc.... Is that not terrorism?

The IDF are state sponsored terrorists. Is herding a family into a building so you can bomb them all together in one place, then blocking any medical attention for the survivors of the bombing not terrorism?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitoun_incident

I guess it's not terrorism when Muslims are the target.

Considering how much the Jewish race has suffered, I for one am VERY glad that, at least in part, the balance has now tipped far more in their favour. Terrible crimes against humanity have been committed against Jews. The hatreds, the bigotries which have kept the fires of hatred burning against them have long deserved to be extinguished.

Your pals Hamas, however, as the terrorist scum they are, are having none of it. How many THOUSANDS of rockets have they fired into Israeli territory ?

You bleat on about the 'state sponsored terrorists' daring to set up settlements on 'Palestinian land'. In your attack, Jafar, you are certain that so-called Palestinians are the victims, Jews the aggressors. Yet, history records in horrific detail the opposite being true.

And Hamas continue with their terrorism. More rockets ready for firing. More kids forced into becoming walking bombs to satisfy the bloodlust of those YOU choose to try and 'sanitise'.

Israel is a country, one which suffers an enormous onslaught of terrorism, year-on-year. But I ask .. is 'Palestine' even a country ???

Let me help you out, Jafar ....

http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/palestinenot.htm

Study the link. Try telling us that they're lying.

Then tell us why you love terrorists.

red states rule
06-27-2013, 04:22 PM
The 6 million figure comes from Jewish scripture. It is the number of dead required for them to theologically return to Israel. However mass graves of 6 million bodies have yet to be found.

Perhaps because the bodies were burned in oven and open pits you racist bastard

You are the best messenger for the f'ing terrorists jafar. As long as pigs like you are around it keeps reminding others why vermin like you must never be trusted

Drummond
06-27-2013, 04:25 PM
The 6 million figure comes from Jewish scripture. It is the number of dead required for them to theologically return to Israel. However mass graves of 6 million bodies have yet to be found.

From this, I understand that you've outed yourself as a form of Holocaust denier ??

Be very ashamed, Jafar.

Drummond
06-27-2013, 04:26 PM
Perhaps because the bodies were burned in oven and open pits you racist bastard

You are the best messenger for the f'ing terrorists jafar. As long as pigs like you are around it keeps reminding others why vermin like you must never be trusted:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Said way better than I could have managed. Thank you. You certainly speak for me as well.

red states rule
06-27-2013, 04:26 PM
From this, I understand that you've outed yourself as a form of Holocaust denier ??

Be very ashamed, Jafar.

One must have a conscience to be ashamed. Jafar is too consumed with his racist hate and rage to have a conscience

red states rule
06-27-2013, 04:31 PM
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Said way better than I could have managed. Thank you. You certainly speak for me as well.

My Dad fought in WWII and while he did not talk much about what he saw - he did tell me about the concentration camps. He never forgot the hell on Earth the Nazis created and he took those memories to his grave

Pigs like jafar allow people to forget what the Nazis did and how they tried to wipe several races off the face of the Earth

Drummond
06-27-2013, 04:31 PM
One must have a conscience to be ashamed. Jafar is too consumed with his racist hate and rage to have a conscience

I am forced to unreservedly agree.

It's a truly sickening spectacle. I feel only disgust.

red states rule
06-27-2013, 04:32 PM
I am forced to unreservedly agree.

It's a truly sickening spectacle. I feel only disgust.

I will have to keep a barf bag next to me when I read Jafar's posts from now on

red states rule
06-27-2013, 04:37 PM
Jafar, you need a career change. Please start your own school for want to be terrorists

http://jokideo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Suicide-bomber.jpg

Drummond
06-27-2013, 04:40 PM
My Dad fought in WWII and while he did not talk much about what he saw - he did tell me about the concentration camps. He never forgot the hell on Earth the Nazis created and he took those memories to his grave

Pigs like jafar allow people to forget what the Nazis did and how they tried to wipe several races off the face of the Earth

Again, perfectly said. I've no real need to add anything substantive to this.

Jafar, 'congratulations'. It's been quite a while since anyone, or anything, has generated such feelings of disgust in me. The one and only reason I'm not demanding an apology from you for the line you're taking is because of my understanding that you cannot be worthy of the decency which such an apology, were it ever to be offered, would suggest to anyone that you possessed.

Drummond
06-27-2013, 04:42 PM
I will have to keep a barf bag next to me when I read Jafar's posts from now on:clap::clap::clap:

Agreed ... me as well !!

red states rule
06-27-2013, 04:42 PM
Again, perfectly said. I've no real need to add anything substantive to this.

Jafar, 'congratulations'. It's been quite a while since anyone, or anything, has generated such feelings of disgust in me. The one and only reason I'm not demanding an apology from you for the line you're taking is because of my understanding that you cannot be worthy of the decency which such an apology, were it ever to be offered, would suggest to anyone that you possessed.

Jafar is pure filth, and I do not mean to insult filth by that comment

On a warm muggy morning the film that forms on top of lake reminds of Jafar. Some call it pond scum

Voted4Reagan
06-27-2013, 04:51 PM
The 6 million figure comes from Jewish scripture. It is the number of dead required for them to theologically return to Israel. However mass graves of 6 million bodies have yet to be found.

Are you now saying that the HOLOCAUST never happened?

If that is what you are inferring I will have lost all respect for you Jafar and will no longer call for people to be tolerant and civil to you.

How dare you deny what has been widely proven over the last 65 years.

We have the Nazis Records detailing those deaths in the camps...

6 million is just the Jewish total....

Here... here is the man you worship.....

Part one


http://youtu.be/Pjk34r7OSkM

Part Two


http://youtu.be/5DNWCArqGig

Part Three


http://youtu.be/a9TLHvhsNbI

Drummond
06-27-2013, 04:51 PM
Jafar is pure filth, and I do not mean to insult filth by that comment

On a warm muggy morning the film that forms on top of lake reminds of Jafar. Some call it pond scum

.... I call it almost managing to give Jafar a compliment ....

Drummond
06-27-2013, 05:05 PM
Are you now saying that the HOLOCAUST never happened?

If that is what you are inferring I will have lost all respect for you Jafar and will no longer call for people to be tolerant and civil to you.

How dare you deny what has been widely proven over the last 65 years.

We have the Nazis Records detailing those deaths in the camps...

6 million is just the Jewish total....

Here... here is the man you worship.....

Part one


http://youtu.be/Pjk34r7OSkM

Part Two


http://youtu.be/5DNWCArqGig

Part Three


http://youtu.be/a9TLHvhsNbI

I read Jafar's latest offerings as his taking a position of straight Holocaust denial. For which there could never, EVER, be either an excuse or a defence.

But even if I were to be wrong, and Jafar hadn't somehow managed to cross that line .. his questioning of known historical fact on this subject offers the very basis for Holocaust denial to thrive in others.

Either way, such evil gets the oxygen it needs to stand a chance of thriving.

Holocaust memorials such as the preservation of Auschwitz exist in order to ensure that NOBODY EVER FORGETS that great anti-Humanitarian evil. Because, if its memory ever becomes so degraded by denial as to be discarded as the lesson it is .. then, one day, a comparable evil will be visited upon Mankind once more. Perhaps, again, to Jews. Perhaps to some other victims instead. Either way, it must NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN ....

... YET THOSE WHO ACT TO FUEL SUCH DEGRADATION INVITE SUCH FUTURE HORRORS.

For the sake of humanity - never again.

aboutime
06-27-2013, 05:06 PM
.... I call it almost managing to give Jafar a compliment ....


Being an old, old sailor. I prefer to use nautical terms when describing someone like jafar.

Which is why all references to Whale Excrement being almost as Low as some of the excuses used by jafar. Is just fine with me.

Drummond
06-27-2013, 05:13 PM
Being an old, old sailor. I prefer to use nautical terms when describing someone like jafar.

Which is why all references to Whale Excrement being almost as Low as some of the excuses used by jafar. Is just fine with me.

I don't think whales deserve such an insult, Aboutime ...

aboutime
06-27-2013, 05:26 PM
I don't think whales deserve such an insult, Aboutime ...


My apologies to Whales. Of course. We all know. Whales are far smarter, and more beneficial than Terrorists ever will be.

Thanks for setting me straight, Sir Drummond.

jafar00
06-27-2013, 09:11 PM
Are you now saying that the HOLOCAUST never happened?

No. But I don't buy the fairy tale we have been fed. A lot of people died in the war. In Russia, civilian losses from neglect, oppression, disease, starvation or simple extermination were in excess of 20 million. If you believe the 6 million Jews figure, don't you think the Russians have more right to be gifted Palestine than the Jews? I could never understand the logic of letting them have Palestine, a land they never lived in anyway.


Here... here is the man you worship.....

I don't worship any man. Only God.

While we are on the subject of Arabs siding with Hitler, they did so because they were promised freedom from occupation which the West could not guarantee them because the West always seemed to occupy them. French and English in Egypt or the Italians in Libya for example.

Marcus Aurelius
06-27-2013, 09:14 PM
By holocaust propaganda I mean the way it has been used to hold a guilt axe over our heads for so long that some of us are afraid to criticise Israel for fear of being branded anti-semitic. In some countries, that can also mean being imprisoned. It seems that for some, Israel can do no wrong. I was recently told by a Christian that the Jews are "the chosen people" which is why they can do as they like without expecting any criticism. I disagree.

The settlers are terrorists as they set up their settlements illegally on Palestinian land, and attack and harass the nearby Palestinians by shooting at them, filling in or poisoning their wells, throwing rocks and abuse at them, burning their plantations etc.... Is that not terrorism?

The IDF are state sponsored terrorists. Is herding a family into a building so you can bomb them all together in one place, then blocking any medical attention for the survivors of the bombing not terrorism?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitoun_incident

I guess it's not terrorism when Muslims are the target.

The way WHAT has been used? The 'nothing' you claimed that happened? The 'nothing' that you claimed the Red Cross said happened?

Dumb ass.

aboutime
06-27-2013, 09:21 PM
No. But I don't buy the fairy tale we have been fed. A lot of people died in the war. In Russia, civilian losses from neglect, oppression, disease, starvation or simple extermination were in excess of 20 million. If you believe the 6 million Jews figure, don't you think the Russians have more right to be gifted Palestine than the Jews? I could never understand the logic of letting them have Palestine, a land they never lived in anyway.



I don't worship any man. Only God.

While we are on the subject of Arabs siding with Hitler, they did so because they were promised freedom from occupation which the West could not guarantee them because the West always seemed to occupy them. French and English in Egypt or the Italians in Libya for example.



jafar. You must be related to our Jesse Jackson. Change a few of your words above, and one might swear Jesse was writing them.

Marcus Aurelius
06-27-2013, 09:30 PM
The 6 million figure comes from Jewish scripture. It is the number of dead required for them to theologically return to Israel. However mass graves of 6 million bodies have yet to be found.

You are such a fucking douche.

You don't bury ash, dumb ass.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/sunday-review/the-holocaust-just-got-more-shocking.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0



The researchers have cataloged some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/germany/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) itself, during Hitler (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/adolf_hitler/index.html?inline=nyt-per)’s reign of brutality from 1933 to 1945.


Auschwitz and a handful of other concentration camps have come to symbolize the Nazi killing machine in the public consciousness. Likewise, the Nazi system for imprisoning Jewish families in hometown ghettos has become associated with a single site — the Warsaw Ghetto, famous for the 1943 uprising. But these sites, infamous though they are, represent only a minuscule fraction of the entire German network, the new research makes painfully clear.


The numbers astound: 30,000 slave labor camps; 1,150 Jewish ghettos; 980 concentration camps; 1,000 prisoner-of-war camps; 500 brothels filled with sex slaves; and thousands of other camps used for euthanizing the elderly and infirm, performing forced abortions, “Germanizing” prisoners or transporting victims to killing centers.


http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/bldied.htm

Estimated Murdered... 5,709,329


http://faculty.ucc.edu/egh-damerow/statistics.htm


It is estimated that 2 million were killed by the Einsatzgruppen,* 3.3 million in the gas chambers,** and about 500,000 died in the ghettos of Eastern Europe of hunger, disease, and exhaustion, and as victims of random terror and reprisals.

Total Loss... 5,820,960


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1481975/The-Holocaust-death-toll.html


Below is a list of the death toll.









Between five and six million Jews
More than three million Soviet prisoners of war
More than two million Soviet civilians
More than one million Polish civilians
More than one million Yugoslav civilians
About 70,000 men, women and children with mental and physical handicaps
More than 200,000 gipsies
Unknown numbers of political prisoners, resistance fighters, homosexuals and deportees

red states rule
06-28-2013, 01:43 AM
No. But I don't buy the fairy tale we have been fed. A lot of people died in the war. In Russia, civilian losses from neglect, oppression, disease, starvation or simple extermination were in excess of 20 million. If you believe the 6 million Jews figure, don't you think the Russians have more right to be gifted Palestine than the Jews? I could never understand the logic of letting them have Palestine, a land they never lived in anyway.



I don't worship any man. Only God.

While we are on the subject of Arabs siding with Hitler, they did so because they were promised freedom from occupation which the West could not guarantee them because the West always seemed to occupy them. French and English in Egypt or the Italians in Libya for example.

and you do worship the pig and have no trouble supporting the slaughter of helpless people

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/muhammed_cartoon_bomb_strike_neck.jpg

aboutime
06-28-2013, 03:09 PM
and you do worship the pig and have no trouble supporting the slaughter of helpless people

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/muhammed_cartoon_bomb_strike_neck.jpg


red states rule. Every time jafar comes here with another excuse, trying to defend his loosing cause endlessly. He just sounds more like kids on a playground, arguing with their teacher, or a parent...Whining about "It's not fair that they can do it, and we can't do it!"
Sounds more like jafar thinks Russia should have stepped in before Israel had the chance....to allow the Russians to create more KILLING FIELDS only jafar would accept as the new Invisible Palestine...ruled by PUTIN...where jafar would be beheaded quickly.

Drummond
06-28-2013, 04:27 PM
No. But I don't buy the fairy tale we have been fed. A lot of people died in the war. In Russia, civilian losses from neglect, oppression, disease, starvation or simple extermination were in excess of 20 million. If you believe the 6 million Jews figure, don't you think the Russians have more right to be gifted Palestine than the Jews? I could never understand the logic of letting them have Palestine, a land they never lived in anyway.



I don't worship any man. Only God.

While we are on the subject of Arabs siding with Hitler, they did so because they were promised freedom from occupation which the West could not guarantee them because the West always seemed to occupy them. French and English in Egypt or the Italians in Libya for example.

Jafar, you say that you don't buy what you call 'the fairy tale we have been fed'. Oh, really ? On what possible basis, apart from Jew-hating, could you possibly reject what the rest of us know to be true ?

For all your rhetoric - and not surprisingly - you offer nothing to back up your view. The 'where are the 6 million graves' question you abusively pose is already answered .. corpses turned into ashes is the answer.

As for your rot about Russia being more deserving of being 'gifted' Palestine because of THEIR death tolls .. tell me of how it is that Russia can have any historical connection with that territory. Israel DOES have a connection traceable to Biblical times, but Russia does not.

The 'gifted' jibe of yours is, of course, abusive in itself. And is meant to be. I've made the point already about Palestinians having NO country, and NO right to claim territory as though they do. Yet you persist with the fiction that their territorial rights are being violated.

But then, hatred of Jews trumps such truths for you, does it not, Jafar ?

Are you yet prepared to explain for us your love of terrorists ?

red states rule
06-29-2013, 05:54 AM
Jafar, you say that you don't buy what you call 'the fairy tale we have been fed'. Oh, really ? On what possible basis, apart from Jew-hating, could you possibly reject what the rest of us know to be true ?

For all your rhetoric - and not surprisingly - you offer nothing to back up your view. The 'where are the 6 million graves' question you abusively pose is already answered .. corpses turned into ashes is the answer.

As for your rot about Russia being more deserving of being 'gifted' Palestine because of THEIR death tolls .. tell me of how it is that Russia can have any historical connection with that territory. Israel DOES have a connection traceable to Biblical times, but Russia does not.

The 'gifted' jibe of yours is, of course, abusive in itself. And is meant to be. I've made the point already about Palestinians having NO country, and NO right to claim territory as though they do. Yet you persist with the fiction that their territorial rights are being violated.

But then, hatred of Jews trumps such truths for you, does it not, Jafar ?

Are you yet prepared to explain for us your love of terrorists ?

Jafar is so typical of the Jew haters around the world. Here is fine report of the Holocaust deniers and why they are so full of it

BTW Jafar whines how this was staged and fake yet how many times has ne been busted posting fake and staged photos and videos?






Nazi policy did a great deal to facilitate denial of the Holocaust (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005143) even as the killing operation unfolded across German-occupied Europe during World War II (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005137).


The Holocaust was a state secret in Nazi Germany. The Germans wrote down as little as possible. Most of the killing orders were verbal, particularly at the highest levels. Hitler's order to kill Jews was issued only on a need-to-know basis. The Nazi leaders generally avoided detailed planning of killing operations, preferring to proceed in a systematic but often improvised manner. The Germans destroyed most documentation that did exist before the end of the war. The documents that survived and related directly to the killing program were virtually all classified and stamped “Geheime Reichssache” (Top Secret), requiring special handling and destruction to prevent capture by the enemy. Heinrich Himmler, Reich Leader of the SS and Chief of the German Police, said in a secret speech to SS generals in Posen in 1943 that the mass murder of the European Jews was a secret, never to be recorded.


In order to hide the killing operation as much as possible from the uninitiated, Hitler ordered that the killings not be spoken of directly in German documentation or in public statements. Instead, the Germans used codenames and neutral-sounding terms for the killing process. In Nazi parlance, for example, “action” (Aktion) referred to a violent operation against Jewish (or other) civilians by German security forces; “resettlement to the East” (Umsiedlung nach dem Osten) referred to the forced deportation of Jewish civilians to killing centers in German-occupied Poland; and “special treatment” (Sonderbehandlung) meant killing.


Both at the time and later, such euphemisms impeded a clear understanding of what the Nazis were doing. This was partly to facilitate the killing process by keeping the victims in the dark about their fate as long as possible. Widespread Jewish resistance (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005213) was only possible once Jews understood that Nazi policy was to kill all of them. Furthermore, Hitler could not just assume that almost no one would protest the killing of Jews. Even within his own party there were those who agreed with the campaign of persecution against Jews but who occasionally balked at systematic murder. For example, Wilhelm Kube, the German civilian administrator of occupied Belarus, fully supported the murder of the Belarusian Jews, but protested when the SS deported German Jews to Minsk (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005187) and shot them there.


Hitler had reason to fear possible unfavorable reaction should all the details of the Holocaust become public. Euphemistic language aided secrecy since only those who knew the “real” meaning of the words would understand the deeper meaning of public statements or accurately interpret the documentary record.


In addition to the use of coded language, Heinrich Himmler sought to destroy the physical remains of the victims of killing operations to hide the killing process from advancing Allied armies. He assigned SS officer Paul Blobel to command Operation (Aktion) 1005, the code name for German plans to destroy the forensic evidence at mass murder sites. The SS forced prisoners to reopen mass graves at both the killing centers in German-occupied Poland and at the open air killing sites in the former Soviet territory and to cremate the bodies, thereby removing evidence of mass murder. For example, at Babi Yar (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005421) in Kiev in the summer of 1943, at Belzec (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005191) in late 1942, and at Sobibor (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005192) and Treblinka (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005193) in the fall of 1943, the mass graves were reopened and the bodies burned to ashes. In this way, the Germans and their collaborators destroyed much -- but by no means all -- of the forensic evidence of mass murder before advancing Soviet armies overran the scenes of these crimes.


Late in the war, after word of the Holocaust had reached Britain and the United States, the Nazi leadership sought to counter Allied condemnation of Nazi policies toward Jews with a coordinated campaign of disinformation. On June 23, 1944, the Nazis permitted an International Red Cross commission visit to the Theresienstadt (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005424) ghetto in occupied Bohemia in what is today the Czech Republic. They hoped to mask Nazi killing operations in the occupied eastern territories by showcasing good conditions for Jews in Theresienstadt. The Red Cross commission consisted of two Danish officials and one Swiss representative and the visit lasted only six hours. It was an elaborate hoax. The SS authorities intensified deportations of Jews from the ghetto to alleviate overcrowding and spruced up the ghetto by planting gardens, painting houses, opening cafes and theaters and the like in preparation for the visit. They even instructed the prisoners how to behave during the inspection and to give positive reports about conditions in the ghetto. Once the visit ended, however, the SS authorities resumed deportations of Jews, overwhelmingly to the Auschwitz (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005189) killing center in German-occupied Poland. The visit had served its purpose: to confuse international public opinion about the true nature of Nazi policies towards Jews.


Despite Nazi efforts to keep secret the unfolding Holocaust, information did leak out. The perpetrators themselves talked about what they were doing. Occasionally, survivors of mass killing operations bore witness to the killing program. Both Jewish and Polish underground organizations made great efforts to let the outside world know what the Germans were doing in eastern Europe. The information was sometimes incomplete, contradictory, and inaccurate in some of the specific details, but the general policy and pattern of events were clear by the second half of 1942.


Yet the psychological barriers to accepting the existence of the Nazi killing program were considerable. The Holocaust was unprecedented and irrational. It was inconceivable that an advanced industrial nation would mobilize its resources to kill millions of peaceful civilians, including women and children, the elderly, and the very young. In doing so, the Nazis often acted contrary to German economic and military interests. For example, they intensified the killing operation, killing skilled Jewish laborers even while labor shortages threatened to undermine the German war effort.


All too many people responded to reports about German killings of Jewish civilians by comparing these reports to news stories about German atrocities in occupied Belgium and northern France during World War I. The British media in World War I charged that the German occupation was monstrous, that German soldiers committed many outrages against defenseless civilians in German-occupied Belgium. They charged that German soldiers bayoneted babies, disfigured women, and killed civilians with military-issued poison gas. It turned out after the war that the Allies had invented many of those stories in order to maximize popular support for the war effort. As a result of that experience, many people were skeptical of reports of mass murder operations during World War II. In this case, however, the reports turned out to be generally accurate.


While some people today are misled as a result of the Nazi policies described above into doubting the reality of the Holocaust, others deny the Holocaust for more overtly racist, political, or strategic reasons. These deniers begin with the premise that the Holocaust did not happen. This premise suits their broader purposes. They deny the Holocaust as an article of faith and no amount of rational argumentation can dissuade them. This denial is irrational, largely unrelated either to the facts of the history or to the enormity of the event. Some people deny the Holocaust because of innate antisemitism (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005175), irrational hated of Jews.


In fact, Holocaust denial has been called by some scholars the “new antisemitism” for it recycles many of the elements of pre-1945 antisemitism in a post-World War II context. Holocaust deniers argue that reports of the Holocaust are really part of a vast shadowy plot to make the white, western world feel guilty and to advance the interest of Jews. Even at the time of the Holocaust, some people in the United States thought reports of German massacres of Jewish civilians were actually propaganda reports designed to force the government to grant Jews special treatment and consideration.
Many people who deny the Holocaust argue that the supposed “hoax” served above all the interests of the State of Israel. Holocaust denial is, for these people, also an attack on the legitimacy of the State of Israel. Finally, others deny the Holocaust because they want to see a resurgence of Nazi racism. They insist that Nazism was a good political philosophy and that only “negative” press resulting from reports of the genocide the Nazis perpetrated prevent a revival of the Nazi movement today. They deny the Holocaust so that they can attract followers to a new Nazi movement.
Holocaust denial, then, unites a broad range of radical right-wing hate groups in the United States and elsewhere, ranging from Ku Klux Klan segregationists to skinheads seeking to revive Nazism to radical Muslim activists seeking to destroy Israel.


Holocaust deniers want to debate the very existence of the Holocaust as a historical event. They want above all to be seen as legitimate scholars arguing a historical point. They crave attention, a public platform to air what they refer to as “the other side of the issue.” Because legitimate scholars do not doubt that the Holocaust happened, such assertions play no role in historical debates. Although deniers insist that the idea of the Holocaust as myth is a reasonable topic of debate, it is clear, in light of the overwhelming weight of evidence that the Holocaust happened, that the debate the deniers proffer is more about antisemitism and hate politics than it is about history.


http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007273

jafar00
06-29-2013, 06:13 AM
See? If you stray from the official story and ask questions, you are called a Holocaust Denier and a Jew Hater. Thanks for proving my point of how the Holocaust Industry has brainwashed us all into giving Israel free reign to commit whatever crimes they wish with impunity because of Holocaust Guilt.

So, back to the topic, why is the OP ok then? Why isn't calling for the killing of Muslims with Pork bullets called a hate crime, yet questioning the Holocaust is?

red states rule
06-29-2013, 06:19 AM
See? If you stray from the official story and ask questions, you are called a Holocaust Denier and a Jew Hater. Thanks for proving my point of how the Holocaust Industry has brainwashed us all into giving Israel free reign to commit whatever crimes they wish with impunity because of Holocaust Guilt.

So, back to the topic, why is the OP ok then? Why isn't calling for the killing of Muslims with Pork bullets called a hate crime, yet questioning the Holocaust is?

Oh spare us your F'ing sob story. You have openly defended cold blooded killers of unarmed and innocent people -and then you play the victim card

You have expressed your hate of Jews and you have tired to deny the human slaughter houses the Nazi's set up. You should have been born around 1910 Jafar. You would have loved working at the concentration camps and killing Jews and anyone else you considered inferior

You are pure filth

http://howcanpeoplebesostupid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/muslims_not_problem.jpg

Voted4Reagan
06-29-2013, 08:22 AM
See? If you stray from the official story and ask questions, you are called a Holocaust Denier and a Jew Hater. Thanks for proving my point of how the Holocaust Industry has brainwashed us all into giving Israel free reign to commit whatever crimes they wish with impunity because of Holocaust Guilt.

So, back to the topic, why is the OP ok then? Why isn't calling for the killing of Muslims with Pork bullets called a hate crime, yet questioning the Holocaust is?

Industry? I know men and women that survived the camps... I have seen the numbers tattooed on their arms. I have listened to their stories.

You support the PLO and Hamas and by doing so you accept the Philosophy of the man that created them.. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. He is the one who sided with Hitler and had tens of thousands of European Jews barred from British Mandatory Palestine and sent to the Concentration/Death Camps of Poland. He allowed 5000 Children of Jewish Birth to be gassed and Cremated, rather then allow them to live in British Mandatory Palestine.

To support Hamas is to forward the cause of it's creator...

You support Hamas and you in your post have shown why Islam in it's current form will never be accepted by the civilized world.

You crossed the line with your denial and questioning of the Holocaust.

You sir are a Holocaust DENIER... You are a shameful example of what prejudice and Hate can do to a person.

You should be truly ashamed of yourself...

red states rule
06-29-2013, 08:26 AM
Industry? I know men and women that survived the camps... I have seen the numbers tattooed on their arms. I have listened to their stories.

You support the PLO and Hamas and by doing so you accept the Philosophy of the man that created them.. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. He is the one who sided with Hitler and had tens of thousands of European Jews barred from British Mandatory Palestine and sent to the Concentration/Death Camps of Poland. He allowed 5000 Children of Jewish Birth to be gassed and Cremated, rather then allow them to live in British Mandatory Palestine.

To support Hamas is to forward the cause of it's creator...

You support Hamas and you in your post have shown why Islam in it's current form will never be accepted by the civilized world.

You crossed the line with your denial and questioning of the Holocaust.

You sir are a Holocaust DENIER... You are a shameful example of what prejudice and Hate can do to a person.

You should be truly ashamed of yourself...

:clap::clap::clap::clap:


I wish I could rep this post a dozen times.

jimnyc
06-29-2013, 08:42 AM
See? If you stray from the official story and ask questions, you are called a Holocaust Denier and a Jew Hater. Thanks for proving my point of how the Holocaust Industry has brainwashed us all into giving Israel free reign to commit whatever crimes they wish with impunity because of Holocaust Guilt.

So, back to the topic, why is the OP ok then? Why isn't calling for the killing of Muslims with Pork bullets called a hate crime, yet questioning the Holocaust is?

Calling for the killing of the violent radicals and terrorists. Funny that you see it as hate to want to rid the world of these types of people - because you have already stated so many times your support for them.

aboutime
06-29-2013, 02:14 PM
Calling for the killing of the violent radicals and terrorists. Funny that you see it as hate to want to rid the world of these types of people - because you have already stated so many times your support for them.


jim. Jafar is forbidden, even being threatened NOT to say anything negative about his favorite Terrorist Leader...
5195

Being a long-standing supporter of Hamas, and other Clubs helps jafar stay alive...as a Gelding.

jafar00
06-30-2013, 07:30 AM
I ought to get me some of these bullets to go and kill some Jewish settlers then.

Voted4Reagan
06-30-2013, 08:46 AM
I ought to get me some of these bullets to go and kill some Jewish settlers then.

How classless have you become Jafar?

You just threatened to kill Israeli Settlers... Are you sick?

This will be reported... not just to Jim but higher up... as in Homeland Security

See...I know them here in NY...You are truly sick... and they will find out who you are based on your IP Address.

Congratulations Jafar... you may have just made the NO FLY list for the UNITED STATES.

Voted4Reagan
06-30-2013, 09:53 AM
Why does the Holocaust have to do with Muslims anyway? Last time I checked, Hitler was not a Muslim. He was merely anti-semitic. If you are American, a lot of your ancestors were anti-semitic. Including many of this nation's founding fathers.

<dl></dl>"They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."

--George Washington

http://rense.com/general25/anti.htm

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, the Uncle of Yasser Arafat worked directly with the Third Reich and was convicted in Abstensia of crimes against humanity for his aiding the Third Reich in the Final Solution.

His nickname was The Fuehers Mufti. He recruited SS Divisions and was responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Jews.

Look him up Gabby... Hitler and the Reich spawned todays situation that exists at the cost of 6 million Jewish lives back in WWII.

Marcus Aurelius
06-30-2013, 11:24 AM
I ought to get me some of these bullets to go and kill some Jewish settlers then.

aren't threats of violence bannable offenses?

Nukeman
06-30-2013, 11:27 AM
aren't threats of violence bannable offenses?If they are (true) threats of bodily harm to fellow posters you would have a point.

jimnyc
06-30-2013, 11:28 AM
aren't threats of violence bannable offenses?

If it were a real and believable threat. His words are like the million times I've stated I would like to go to Iraq or Afghanistan and kill me some terrorist scum. The difference is, I was serious, while I think Jafar is reversing what others are saying to make a point.

Marcus Aurelius
06-30-2013, 11:34 AM
Why does the Holocaust have to do with Muslims anyway? Last time I checked, Hitler was not a Muslim. He was merely anti-semitic. If you are American, a lot of your ancestors were anti-semitic. Including many of this nation's founding fathers.

<dl></dl>"They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."

--George Washington

http://rense.com/general25/anti.htm

busted, dumb ass...


http://www.snopes.com/quotes/washington/enemies.asp




This quote is a recasting of something Washington did say, providing just enough of
an aura of authenticity to sound believable. What Washington actually wrote referenced
currency speculators who sought to profit by taking advantage of soldiers and others
during the Revolutionary War.


Washington's private life and writings reveal no evidence of anti-Semitism,
and his public attitude towards religious tolerance was well expressed on a 1790 goodwill
visit he paid to Newport, Rhode Island, during his first term as President.
When a goodwill address was presented to him by the Hebrew Congregation of Newport,
Washington responded by penning "the first presidential declaration of the
free and equal status of Jewish-American citizens":


The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves
for giving to Mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy
of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship.
It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence
of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights.
For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction
to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection,
should demean themselves as good citizens.

May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit
and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit under
his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid.</pre>

jafar00
06-30-2013, 06:22 PM
How classless have you become Jafar?

You just threatened to kill Israeli Settlers... Are you sick?

This will be reported... not just to Jim but higher up... as in Homeland Security

See...I know them here in NY...You are truly sick... and they will find out who you are based on your IP Address.

Congratulations Jafar... you may have just made the NO FLY list for the UNITED STATES.

It wasn't serious, but thank you for proving my point that it seems to be ok to advocate the killing of Muslims, but threaten a Jew and you get an overreaction, reported to the feds, called anti-semite etc....

And I have no desire to visit the US ever so you know where you can stick your NSA and no fly list. Freedom? pfffft....


If it were a real and believable threat. His words are like the million times I've stated I would like to go to Iraq or Afghanistan and kill me some terrorist scum. The difference is, I was serious, while I think Jafar is reversing what others are saying to make a point.

Thanks for noticing Jim. At least one person here has a thinking brain in their noggin to notice.

red states rule
07-01-2013, 02:59 AM
I ought to get me some of these bullets to go and kill some Jewish settlers then.

It is amazing to see animals like you who want to wipe an entire group of people of the face of the Earth - and at the same time you run around yelling to anyone who will listen that you only want peace

aboutime
07-01-2013, 04:24 PM
It is amazing to see animals like you who want to wipe an entire group of people of the face of the Earth - and at the same time you run around yelling to anyone who will listen that you only want peace


red states rule SEE. It was only a matter of time until jafar's real self rose up, and exposed himself as the SCUMBAG we suspected him to be...Any excuse to make him feel better about threatening those he formerly pretended he didn't hate..like Jewish settlers.

SCUMBAGS Anonymous must be really proud of jafar today.

Drummond
07-01-2013, 04:50 PM
:clap::clap::clap::clap:


I wish I could rep this post a dozen times.:clap::clap::clap:

Ditto !!!!

NightTrain
07-01-2013, 08:35 PM
busted, dumb ass...


http://www.snopes.com/quotes/washington/enemies.asp


Beat me to it.

God, she is such a twit.